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Title: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: eleanola on Wednesday 13 August 14 22:21 BST (UK)
Can anyone please help me to find my grandmother Emma's date of birth and/or death?

Parents : Donald MACRAE, b c1842 Inverness, and Catherine (Kathleen) Ida STEVENSON, b c1846 Dublin.
Siblings: Annie Mary Macrae, Henry Hardy Macrae, Frederick MacRae, Donald Fraser Macrae and Kate Augusta Macrae, all born 1869-1878, in Scotland or Dublin.
Husband : Robert Fairley STRATHERN, b 1880, Glasgow, m 08 Jun 1910, Oxford.
Children :Robert Ean Strathern, Kenneth Fairley Strathern, Kathleen Mary STRATHERN, and Michael Strathern, all b 1911-1919 in Glasgow.
Emma d c1969, Edinburgh.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 13 August 14 23:48 BST (UK)
On Irish Genealogy
Kate Augusta Macrae 1878
You can see the original.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e77f520145903

Frederick Joseph Macrae 1873
Again you can see the original
Address and fathers occupation have changed
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a5d99a0145459
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 13 August 14 23:54 BST (UK)
Emma Stevenson Macrea 1881
You can see the original
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/53eac70146099

Father promoted since Kate was born
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 14 August 14 00:18 BST (UK)
No sign of Donald, but clearly the family were moving around as address is Longford for Emma but yet she was baptised in Dublin.

Having another think about that there is a Longford Street in Dublin.
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: eleanola on Thursday 14 August 14 14:51 BST (UK)
Thank you so much, Sinnan.  I have been looking for Emma's birth for 4 years! 
Thank you for the info on Kate and Frederick too.
The father, Donald, was born in Inverness, married in Dublin, and first child Annie was born in Ayrshire - so yes, it does seem that he moved about a bit!  I don't know where he died!
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 14 August 14 16:21 BST (UK)
The children's births should be on the civil registration but I'm having trouble finding Emma, I wonder if they did go to Longford if this could be her, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBWZ-C3T, hard to know.

Could father have died youngish in Londonderry?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTZ6-RZH

This has to be Kate
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FB3J-L47

The surname is getting mangled, no wonder they are hard to find.
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 14 August 14 16:57 BST (UK)
Could father have died youngish in Londonderry?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTZ6-RZH

Too bad there's no Will but perhaps his death was unexpected-
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Donald Macrae late of Ebrington-terrace Londonderry Insurance Agent who died 13 February 1894 at same place were granted [7 March] at Londonderry to Kate Macrae of Ebrington-terrace the Widow.Effects £200
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearch.aspx
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 14 August 14 17:07 BST (UK)
Donald listed as widowed on marriage to Catherine in 1868-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ5-NH8

Perhaps his 1st marriage? (1865)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGDD-9L6
... and a son from that marriage born Scotland (1866)-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQX8-5QZ
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: eleanola on Thursday 14 August 14 23:15 BST (UK)
Thanks, Sinnan and Aghadowey.

That does look like Emma's birth in Longford.  Pity the parents are not named.
It could well be her father Donald's death, 'Londonderry Insurance Agent', as he did seem to move around.
Yes, I had found a birth record for Kate (spelt correctly!)  on family search, and also on Ancestry.
I hadn't found that marriage record for Donald, only the corresponding one for Kate, which didn't name Donald's father.  Alarmed to find the father's name listed as John Macrae, as family records have him as Duncan, but perhaps he was 'John Duncan'.  I'll need to search again for his birth.
I knew Donald had been married before, but hadn't found anything!

You guys are great  - thank you so much


Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: Viedora on Friday 19 June 15 17:13 BST (UK)
I've just come across your posting re Emma Macrae. Emma and her siblings were my grandmother's first cousins. My great-grandmother was Sarah Ann Stevenson, Kate Stevenson's younger sister. I'd love to exchange info on the family and find out more about your branch. Hope you see this.
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: eleanola on Monday 22 June 15 17:17 BST (UK)
I've just come across your posting re Emma Macrae. Emma and her siblings were my grandmother's first cousins. My great-grandmother was Sarah Ann Stevenson, Kate Stevenson's younger sister. I'd love to exchange info on the family and find out more about your branch. Hope you see this.

Hi Viedora.
I don't have Sarah Ann Stevenson on my tree. 
Was she a sister of my GGmother Catherine (Kathleen) Ida STEVENSON (c1846-c1900)?
In 1868, she married Donald Macrae who was born c1841 in Inverness, and died 1894, in Londonderry.

I now know that my Gmother Emma was born 1881 in Longford, Ireland.

Regards
Eleanor
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: Viedora on Monday 22 June 15 21:29 BST (UK)
Hi Eleanor

I'm so pleased to have contacted you. I don't know how much you know about the Stevenson family from Dublin. Your Catherine (Kate) married Donald Macrae in Dublin on 15 July 1868 and I believe they both died in Londonderry in 1894. Kate was about 20 years older than Sarah and were 2 of the children of Henry Stevenson and Sarah Hardy. Irish research can be difficult but I've identified 9 definite children of this couple in total. My grandmother kept in contact with the descendants of Henry Hardy Macrae, (brother of Emma Stevenson Macrae), until she died in the 1960s. Do you know anything about the descendants of the other Macrae siblings?
I'm away on holiday for a week now but would love to correspond with you on our mutual ancestors.
Regards
Vivienne
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: jan ten have on Wednesday 19 August 15 20:45 BST (UK)
I visited Kenneth Fairley Strathern's grave in Germany last week. Would you please mail me.

Best wishes,

Jan
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 19 August 15 21:56 BST (UK)
Not sure if this is the same Donald MacRae  ???

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM3H-ZS8

Annie
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: jan ten have on Thursday 20 August 15 10:16 BST (UK)
Must be a mistake. Kenneth Fairley was Emma Stevenson MACRAE's son.
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: sarah on Monday 24 August 15 10:46 BST (UK)
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Could I possibly contact you about her son Kenneth Fairley ? Thanks !

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Sarah
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: eleanola on Wednesday 30 September 20 15:33 BST (UK)
I visited Kenneth Fairley Strathern's grave in Germany last week. Would you please mail me.

Best wishes,

Jan
Hello, Jan. Just read this message from you!
Kenneth Fairley Strathern was my mother's twin brother.
Eleanor
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: jan ten have on Wednesday 07 October 20 15:51 BST (UK)
Thank you for replying. Could I possibly phone you about Kenneth. I am a Dutch historian. I would be most grateful.

Jan
Title: Re: Emma Stevenson MACRAE, b c1877 Dublin
Post by: jan ten have on Tuesday 13 October 20 17:57 BST (UK)
Would you please respond.
Thank you.

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