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Title: Alwork in Derbyshire.
Post by: chrisaaaaa on Thursday 14 August 14 02:53 BST (UK)
Ancestry transcriptions give this as "Alwork Derbyshire", I cannot find such a place, but I think the Derbyshire bit is right, I pulled a Derbyshire from the same census page down next to the one in question to help compare ().

It is for a Robert Alsop b abt 1775, Married a Hannah from Grindon Staffs, they had a bunch of kids starting with Robert in 1806 in Sheen, Staffs.

Any ideas?

Chris

Image is snipped from 1851;
  Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
  County/Island: Cheshire
  Registration district: Stockport
  Sub-registration district: Stockport
  ED, institution, or vessel: 3k
  Household schedule number: 29
  Piece: 2156
  Folio: 433
  Page Number: 9




Title: Re: Alwork in Derbyshire.
Post by: chrisaaaaa on Thursday 14 August 14 02:54 BST (UK)
Sorry 6th line!
Title: Re: Alwork in Derbyshire.
Post by: suegill on Thursday 14 August 14 03:47 BST (UK)
Here's a list of place names in Derbyshire beginning with an A

Abbot's Chair Abney Aldercar Alderwasley Aldwark Alfreton Alicehead Alkmonton Allestree Alport Alport Hill River Alport Alsop en le Dale Alton Ambaston Ambergate Amber Valley Anacrehill Ankerbold Ann Croft Apperknowle Arkwright Town Arleston Arnfield Ashbourne Ashbourne Green Ashford-in-the-Water Ashgate Ashleyhay River Ashop Ashopton Ashover Ashover Hay Aston (High Peak) Aston (Derbyshire Dales) Aston Heath Aston Moor Aston-on-Trent Astwith Atlow Ault Hucknall
Title: Re: Alwork in Derbyshire.
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 14 August 14 06:37 BST (UK)
Google Maps shows Aldwark - near Matlock.

Title: Re: Alwork in Derbyshire.
Post by: chrisaaaaa on Thursday 14 August 14 09:53 BST (UK)
Yes I saw Aldwork, but was not convinced.

In the image there does not seem to be a d or space for it.

Then the town itself is tiny now, back then it would have been really tiny, would it be so small that it would seem silly to write it on the form?

The only birth in the frame is Robert Allsop in Bradborne (Dec 1774), which does not seem huge, would a birth in Aldwick have been reported as Bradborne, Matlock or Cromford are a similar distance and a lot more established.
Title: Re: Alwork in Derbyshire.
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 14 August 14 10:37 BST (UK)
You may have to remember that in 1851 not everyone was literate, possibly had strong regional accents, plus the fact that the family had moved out of the county and the Enumerator probably was not familiar with places in Derbyshire.

I can't answer your other question as I'm not that local to the area, but it does look possible.  You also must remember that civil registration of births, marriages and deaths did not come into force until 1 July 1837, and so any earlier events will only appear in the church/chapel registers.
Title: Re: Alwork in Derbyshire.
Post by: chrisaaaaa on Thursday 14 August 14 10:49 BST (UK)
Yes all true, and most likely it is Aldwark, it fits well apart from the 'd'.

I shall ask other oin the Derbyshire board.

Ta