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Title: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: lavender123 on Monday 18 August 14 14:31 BST (UK)
I am hoping someone could help me on the 1871 census my great grandmother alice Hurley was born in st George in the east . Wapping to George and robertina Sargent.   Alice maiden name was Sargent. Been told she could have been born in scotland. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: lizdb on Monday 18 August 14 14:43 BST (UK)
Christening
St George in the East
12 Apr 1868

Alice Silver Sargeant
Parents George James and Robertina of 13 Little Hermitage Ct, Wapping
Waterman
Bn 7 March 1868

No indication she was bn Scotland.
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: giggsycat on Monday 18 August 14 14:55 BST (UK)
Hi

On the 1871 Robertina (transcribed as Rosina for anybody looking!) was said to be from Montrose, Scotland. Is this where the confusion lies?

giggsy
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: lavender123 on Monday 18 August 14 14:56 BST (UK)
Alice silver is  a very unusual name was silver her second name or full name. I wondered  as my great grandmother was very dark skinned, possibly the sergeants were from iireland my mother said once that alice Hurley was welsh. Is there any info on robertina sergeant birthplace, which would be great to kn ow.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: lizdb on Monday 18 August 14 15:20 BST (UK)
Here is the full 1871

George J 28 watermen bn Wapping
Robena 24 bn Scotland Montrose
Alice S 5 bn Wapping
George J 1 mth bn Wapping
John Jolly 27 brother in law bn Wapping

And 1881
24 Arnold Rd Bromley
Robertina Sargeant 31 widow bn Scotland Montrose? (Town not clear)
George J 10
Alice 13
Benjamin 8
James 5
Grace 1 mth
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: lizdb on Monday 18 August 14 15:28 BST (UK)
Here is George and Robertinas marriage, so now you have a maiden name and a fathers name for her

2 Jan 1865
St Botolph Aldgate
George James Sargeant , full age, bachelor, lighterman of Aldgate, father Joseph Sargeant, labourer
To
Robertina Jolly , 18, spinster, of Aldgate, father John Jolly ships carpenter
Witnesses Ellen Herne? And William Biggs
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: lizdb on Monday 18 August 14 15:34 BST (UK)
And going back to 1861 . .

Wapping
Grace Jolly 43 married, sub ships carpenters wife bn Scotland
James 18 dock labourer bn Scotland
Robertina 14 bn Scotlnad
John 8 bn Middx St George
William 6 bn Middx St George

So we see that the family appears to have moved to London from Scotland at some point between Robertinas birth amd Johns birth.
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: jan57 on Monday 18 August 14 16:24 BST (UK)
 Looking  at the     original     for  Alice's  birth    her name  has been  put down  as

 Alice SILVEY Sergeant   
Title: Re: Alice Hurley. Formerly. Sargent
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 18 August 14 17:40 BST (UK)
Yes the GRO index says .....

Births Jun 1868   

SERGEANT    Alice Silvey        Stepney    1c   456