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Title: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: Allan the Jambo on Thursday 21 August 14 19:58 BST (UK)
Carrick Wither was born Abt 1899 in Ardrossan, Scotland, his sister Jeannie Malcolm Wither born 21/08/1892 in Ardrossan,
The Family Emigrated to Canada after 1900.
Carrick died 07/02/1954 in Fresno CA. Jeannie died 09/05/1970 in Los Angeles.
Jeannie married D G T Underdown 18/11/1912 in Kildonan, Manitoba, Canada.
This is the only info i have and any help would be appreciated.
Don't know if Carrick ever married.
Allan
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: JJen on Thursday 21 August 14 20:54 BST (UK)
Hi Allan,

The Wither family emigrated to Canada on 26 March 1904 on the ship Numidian -

John Wither 41
Mrs Wither
Wm 16
John 14
Jeannie 11
David ? 8
Carrick 5
Andrew 2

JJ
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: JJen on Thursday 21 August 14 20:57 BST (UK)
Could this be Carrick on the United States Census, 1940?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9QF-65J

JJ
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: JJen on Thursday 21 August 14 20:59 BST (UK)
Marriage for Carrick -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8NZ-DH3

JJ
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:00 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Carrick (1899 - 1954) and Helen Wither (1906 - 1988)

Burial: Clovis Cemetery  Clovis Fresno County California.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wxw/ 

Sandra
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: JJen on Thursday 21 August 14 21:02 BST (UK)
1930 census -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XC8T-PX7

The website https://familysearch.org is always a good site to use  :)

JJ
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:06 BST (UK)
Naturalization record shows Carrick Wither immigrated to USA at Noyes Minnesota 29/4/1922 on Canadian Pacific Railway.
Declared his intention to become a US Citizen 4/4/1925 US Dist Court. Los Angeles California.
Born in Ardrossan Scotland 9/5/1899. Married Helen 6/4/1925 Los Angeles. California.  Helen born Coalinga California 20/9/1906  Has 2 children Helen and John

Sandra
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:12 BST (UK)
Son John William Wither - Born 16 Feb 1932 died 22 September 2009 - Last Residence: 93710  Fresno, Fresno, California.

Enlisted US Navy 18 Jan 1951 - Release Date 17 May 1954

Sandra

Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: Allan the Jambo on Thursday 21 August 14 21:15 BST (UK)
Sandra and JJ

Thanks ever so much for your help and info.

Allan
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:17 BST (UK)
Lorelei Ann Wither (wife of John Wither) born 24 April 1929 and died 10 January 2011 - Last Residence: 93710  Fresno, Fresno, California.   SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

Sandra
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: JJen on Thursday 21 August 14 21:18 BST (UK)
Sandra and JJ

Thanks ever so much for your help and info.

Allan

You are very welcome  :)

There is plenty of info for the Wither family on Family Search but it's nice for you to discover this for yourself.

JJ
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: shellyesq on Thursday 21 August 14 21:19 BST (UK)
Prior thread about this family:  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=668322.0
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:22 BST (UK)
Thanks Shelly - thought it seemed familiar  ::) Better twice than not at all  ;D
You're very welcome Allan - hope it helps fill the gaps.

Sandra
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:27 BST (UK)
Genealogy family Tree - shows a 3 rd female child born 1941

http://www.luciefield.net/extree/getperson.php?personID=I9795&tree=Field

Sandra
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:43 BST (UK)
Charles Gilgen (husband of the first born daughter) 28 May 1923 and died September 1981.
Last Benefit: 93612  Clovis, Fresno, California.    SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

FIND A GRAVE

Burial: Clovis Cemetery  Clovis Fresno County California.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/019jy/ 


Sandra
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 21 August 14 21:47 BST (UK)
Sadly - very recently  :'( - Helen M Gilgen born 14 October 1925 died 11 July 2014.

http://lisle.tributes.com/dignitymemorial/obituary/Helen-M.-Gilgen-101508340

Sandra
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: Allan the Jambo on Saturday 23 August 14 06:37 BST (UK)
Jjen, Shellyesq and Sandra
Thanks ever so much for all the info, really gratefull for it, and Sandra
i'm sorry i did not realize that you had answered some of my questions
in my previous post and having to make you work twice as hard.
Putting everything together, i think i am just a phone call away from finding
my Withers in Canada.
Also trying to find one of my g g mother's sisters, Mary wither, not knowing
that Carrick's full name was Carrick George Campbell Wither, i did a search for a Marriage for Mary
and found that Mary had married Carrick George Campbell so that was a no brainer for me.

Many thanks again

Allan
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: manawakian on Monday 08 September 14 13:18 BST (UK)
Wither family in 1911 census of East Kildonan Manitoba (now a suburb of Winnipeg) shown here:

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001951413.jpg

Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: manawakian on Monday 08 September 14 13:25 BST (UK)
Wither family still found in East Kildonan in 1916 census, son David shown as overseas in France.

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21939/jpg/31228_4363968-01018.jpg
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: manawakian on Monday 08 September 14 13:45 BST (UK)
Wither family have taken up farming in 1921.  They are living on what is described by the western Canadian system of land surveys as Section 36 Township 26 Range 6 W1.  The exact location of this farm can be found by entering these numbers on a website with free trials which I will give in a following post.  The enumerator had trouble with the name Euphemia, lots of them in my family.

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21939/jpg/31228_4363968-01018.jpg
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: manawakian on Monday 08 September 14 14:07 BST (UK)
Oops gave you 1916 again.  The following lengthy URL should be the correct one.  If you Google "legal land description converter" you will find the site which will show the location of the farm.

http://interactive.ancestry.ca/8991/1921_027-e002886787/7185717?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.ca%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dCanCen1921%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dms_db%26gsfn%3djohn%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dwither%26gsln_x%3dXO%26msrpn__ftp%3dManitoba%252c%2bCanada%26msrpn%3d5003%26msrpn_PInfo%3d5-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c3243%257c0%257c5003%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c%26msrpn_x%3dXO%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26dbOnly%3d_F000798D%257c_F000798D_x%26dbOnly%3d_F000798C%257c_F000798C_x%26dbOnly%3d_F000798B%257c_F000798B_x%26dbOnly%3d_83004006%257c_83004006_x%26dbOnly%3d_83004005%257c_83004005_x%26dbOnly%3d_F00079D5%257c_F00079D5_x%26dbOnly%3d_F0007989%257c_F0007989_x%26uidh%3dzge&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults
Title: Re: Children of John Wither and Euphemia Andrew OF Manitoba, Canada.
Post by: Fen on Monday 05 April 21 20:10 BST (UK)
Hello!  A bit late with my post.
My great grandfather James Andrew, son of William Andrew (of Monkton, Ayrshire) and Jane Malcolm (of West Kilbride) was elder brother to Euphemia Andrew, mother of Carrick George Campbell Withers.
James Andrew lived in Monkton Ayrshire and married Elizabeth McMillan. His youngest son George Arthur Andrew, born in Monkton was my grandfather.
My eldest son is called Campbell, I had no idea the name had already been used in the family.
If you require any more information on Euphemia's family, the Andrews,  please do get in touch.