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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: toby webb on Wednesday 27 August 14 14:37 BST (UK)
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This started as an extra to Cheshire Blacksmiths but more sensibly should have been posted under Staffordshire.
Josiah Dale, another blacksmith , born Sproston, Cheshire was married to a Sarah Ann. I cannot make sense of her birthplace in 1861 census [ age 26]. Spools Heath is put forward but I cannot find any such place. Can anyone help?
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Looking at her birthplace in other census returns, she gives Eccleshall and Stone. I'm wondering if it is Cotes Heath which is in that area
Chris
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It sort of looks like Goats Heath which could have been misheard by the enumerator ???
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Could it be an attempt at "Gnoshall"
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/parishes.html#G
Carl
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Seems like 3 good possibilities. Is Cotes ever found spelt Coates? T
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There's Greatwood heath,Eccleshall...Did he miss the wood off ? :)
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It could be this place also ,
Chell is a suburb of the city of Stoke-on-Trent in Staffordshire, England, that can be subdivided into Little Chell, Great Chell and Chell Heath. It lies on the northern edge of the city, approximately 1 mile from Tunstall,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chell,_Staffordshire
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Seems like 3 good possibilities. Is Cotes ever found spelt Coates? T
Not seen it spelt Coats, in the documents I have ( 3 x great grandfather died in a train crash there ) but it's possible
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Your comment jan57 is of interest. 7 of Mary Ann's children were born in Tunstall.
However it is difficult to see a double L. T
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I still think the word begins with a "G"....I can't see it as a "C" :-\
Carol
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A Colin D Gronow puts
"Great heath, near Market Drayton, Staffordshire TF9, UK."
as a possibility but there does seem to be an 's' at the end of the first word so I am not fully convinced. T
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hi.If you type in-parishes in stafford,on google-wikipedia has a huge list,you can go through them,it looks like the 2nd word is Heath.Glen
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I did what you suggested Glen and what a formidable list I got.There was only one Heath namely Brindley Heath and that clearly doesn't fit.
In the 1871 census Sarah Dale puts Eccleshall as her birth place and from personal experience of census returns of other relations who chopped & changed and certainly entered tiny places within a parish, I feel that this Xxxx Heath will probably be in Eccleshall parish. It thus becomes very specialized and I think that only a person from that parish, with an interest in local history, will be able to help.
Thanks to you all for your efforts. Toby.
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hi Toby,i have been away -sorry for delay in answering,but i suppose you could contact Stafford archives,or the william Salt library which is a couple of doors away.Glen
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Yates has the spelling 'Coats' (see attached) but if you look four lines up on the 1861 census you'll see the start of the word 'Grocer' has pretty much the same form as this (although it includes a little flourish that this does not!).
As Coats Heath is pretty much halfway between Stone & Eccleshall I would think it's a fair bet that it's a misinterpretation of Coats Heath.
Paul
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hi,log onto www.oldmaps.co.uk.Type in Cotes Heath,then choose one of the old maps on the left hand side.Or,type in Coven,you should see Cotes Heath,also a cotes hall.You can move the map around,this must be the place.There is also Cotes,which looks like its a farm.Glen