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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: TerryD on Thursday 28 August 14 13:38 BST (UK)
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Hi all
Wonder if somebody could help.
Have found my relations in 1861 census living Beaumont Place, St Pancras, London
Eleanor Barham 50 widow born Hearlsdon, Norfolk (reckon it is Harleston)
Robert (Arthur) Barham born Spitalfields, London
and further down line but cant find them before in census.
Reckon age in 1861 census wrong for Eleanor as she died 1874 in St Pancras aged 67.
Any assistance would be gratefully received
Thanks in anticipation
Terry
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Do you know who she was widow of - was it James?
Also is Robert (Arthur) her son?
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Could this be them ???
1851 as transcribed
Address Tottenham Place St Pancras
Eleanor Bachan 39 born Hurlston Norfolk - unmarried
Robert Bachan 10 born Spitalfield Middlesex - deaf
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Snap was just going to post this Milliepede certainly looks like them :)
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Her occupation was washerwoman 1851... 1861/71 laundress
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Is this Robert ? His baptism may not have been where he was born
Name:
Robert Arthur Barham
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
10 May 1840
Father's Name:
George Barham
Mother's name:
Helen Barham
Parish or Poor Law Union:
St Pancras Old St Pancras
Borough:
Camden
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Did she have a second illegitimate child?
Christening
Old St Pancras
29 Nov 1849
John Barham son of Eleanor Barham of the workhouse
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1841 is more tricky. Not sure about this one but in St Pancras.
Robert Badham 1
Ellen Badham 20
Fredrick Badham 36
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Did she have a second illegitimate child?
Christening
Old St Pancras
29 Nov 1849
John Barham son of Eleanor Barham of the workhouse
If she did he may have died
Deaths Dec 1849
Barham John St Pancras
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Thanks to you all,
Sorry but been out and only just seen.
Millipede it definitely looks like them. Many thanks
Jan57 thanks and on checking his death aged 63 in 4th qtr 1903 it looks like he was born 1840 and not 1841 so should be in 1841 census. Need to find him and his parents George/Helen/Eleanor in 1841. which sort of rules out Fredrick and Ellen Badham but then again I cant find them in 1851 census to disprove it ::)
As to the illegitimate son, it could be , I have no info before 1851.
Need to do some further investigation and pin her husbands name down and birth of son..
Will update you and any further help will be appreciated.
Terry.
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I wouldnt rule out that 1841 that was found.
All the evidence is pointing to the possibilty that Eleanor was not married.
We have Roberts birth in 1841, then him on 1841 with Eleanor. The Frederick could be Eleanors brother, no relationships shown on 1841 census.
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Hi Liz,
Thanks and not ruling out as you say could be a brother.
Messy to say the least but think we are pretty close to narrowing it down.
Terry