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Title: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: Westy11 on Thursday 04 September 14 13:36 BST (UK)
Hoping for some assistance to locate the marriage of Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson [aka Ethel] and Thomas Brown please. 

The facts:
*Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson was born Jul 1868 at Hazel Hill, Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire; she was the youngest daughter of William Robertson Justice of the Peace and Deputy Lieutenant of Pembrokeshire & Mary Musgrave Bowen
* Elizabeth married Thomas Brown an Army Bandmaster and son of James Conway Brown & Ruth Jones.  James was a Professor of Music & Licentiate In Music & Fellow Of Trinity College London
* By the 1911 Census Thomas & Elizabeth had been married for 20 full years and were living with their 19 year old daughter Ethel at Gosport. Hampshire
* Elizabeth's death was registered in Dec 1935 at Christchurch Hampshire.  I have not been able to locate Thomas' death.

I cannot locate Thomas & Elizabeth's marriage and hope for some assistance please....

Westy11
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 04 September 14 13:46 BST (UK)
Working back from the 1911

Hereis 1901
Cargate Hill aldershot
Thomas Brown 35 Army sergeant bn Poplar
Elizabeth J E. 32 bn Pembrokeshire
Ethel M N9 bn Aldershot
Mary M Scowcroft widow motherinlaw  63 bn Pembrokeshire
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: silvery on Thursday 04 September 14 13:48 BST (UK)
There is a marriage in March 1891 with a Elizabeth Jane E Robertson, Farnham 2a, 168  - but it's not clear who she married as there is only one male name in the list John Ernest Turner.  I'm wondering if this is the marriage, but he has been missed.   Farnham included Aldershot where the daughter was born.  A possible.............
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 04 September 14 13:52 BST (UK)
Marriage

Jan/Feb/Mar 1891
Farnham
Ref 2a. 168
Elizabeth Jane E Robertson

One groom missing from page
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 04 September 14 13:54 BST (UK)
And there is a Thomas Brown marriage same place same quarter - ref 2a 163
I guess one is misindexed.
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: silvery on Thursday 04 September 14 13:57 BST (UK)
And findmypast has got one of the grooms as Thomas Brown.   Looks like it's the one.
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: Westy11 on Thursday 04 September 14 14:01 BST (UK)
LoL  :)

I cannot get over how fast you solved that one.  I should have posted earlier but nonetheless I thank you silvery & Lizdb!

No chance of finding Thomas' death?   ;D

Westy11
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 04 September 14 14:06 BST (UK)
When Elizabeth died in 1935 was she described as a widow on her death cert, or as wife of Thomas? Did he register the death?
That will narrow down when he died.
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: Westy11 on Thursday 04 September 14 14:24 BST (UK)
Sorry Lizdb - I only have the info from FreeBDM.  Maybe I have to buy her death certificate :'(

I did not locate a Probate record for Elizabeth either which would have told me if she was a widow but sadly none [that I could locate].

Westy11
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 04 September 14 14:27 BST (UK)
I guess with a name like Thomas Brown you are going to need all the clues you can get!
Is he described as deceased on any child's marriage? That is another way to narrow it down.
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: Westy11 on Thursday 04 September 14 14:38 BST (UK)
I agree Lizdb - I will have to purchase a certificate.  The couple had one child a daughter who married - I obtained that info also from FreeBDM.

I appreciate your assistance but as you have rightly pointed out with a name like Thomas Brown one need all the clues possible.

As my partner said "Its nothing money wont solve"..... ;D

Westy11
Title: Re: When did Elizabeth Jane Ethel Robertson marry Thomas Brown????
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 04 September 14 17:57 BST (UK)
No guarantee spending the money WILL solve it! But not spending the money will probably mean you wont solve it!