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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: BassinghamTerrier on Friday 05 September 14 11:25 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to pin down birth dates for a Dobson apparently born in Edinburgh.
JOHN DOBSON appears in several English censuses (1841 -> 1881) and his 1900 death certificate as having been born in Edinburgh/Scotland circa 1818 (judging by his ages in those documents)
Can anyone please confirm the 1818 birth and that it is actually in Edinburgh?
As a bonus question, I have the father as John Dobson (born c1774), a cloth dealer from Wakefield, and mother as Frances. Can anyone provide any info on these two?
Thanks in advance,
MT ;)
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Have you checked the OPR's (Old Parish Records) on Scotlands People?
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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No, I haven't, but thanks for the link, Carole; I'll give it a whirl.
MT ;)
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Just had a look and there IS a John Dobson between 1817 and 1819 - but I can't see it is I have no credits, and as I don't expect to use it much I probably won't invest.
Ho-hum.
Thanks anyway.
MT ;)
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Did that find match to Midlothian? If not - could possibly be this one
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYMD-LBG
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No idea, Carole: as I said, can't access any details on Scotland's People. :(
If YOUR Midlothian data is correct, then my facts are wrong - I have mother as Frances Dobson.
I could be wrong ...
MT ;)
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I don't have any Midlothian data. When you search on SP OPR's or Statutory Births - you can select a county etc in which you want to confine your search.
Your reply didn't say whether the match you found linked to a search confined to Midlothian and from your last reply I'm guessing you haven't used that facility.
I have just done an "all counties" search and there is one match
If you select Midlothian and then search - no matches
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Sorry for that, Carole. I wasn't sure how to search, so just did a basic name search - never used that site before!
MT ;)
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No problem. I have just selected Dumfries and searched again and it comes up with one hit which is the one you found. So it is the entry I found on FS
Doesn't help find your John but at least saves buying any credits ;D
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Thanks for the confirmation, Carole.
Back to square one though. :(
MT ;)
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Back again, with a slightly different angle.
John Dobson (born c1774 in Wakefield) married a Frances UNKNOWN somewhere and it might just have been in Scotland, but could equally have been anywhere!
BUT ... two sons were born ...
James Dobson born 1811 in 'Scotland' in the 1851 and 1871 censuses, Glasgow in the 1861, and Lanarkshire in the 1881.
John Dobson, his younger brother (the one that this thread is originally about) who - as a reminder - variously gives his c1818 place of birth as Scotland (1851, 1861, 1891) and Edinburgh (1871, 1881).
And, I suppose that there could have been other children born to this marriage ...
So, is there any record of a James Dobson being born in 1811? And perhaps the parents' marriage?
Any help would be appreciated from those of you who have access to Scots record information.
MT ;)
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Hi,
There is also a Jeremiah Dobson on the England 1841/51/61 Census in Leeds.
Born in Scotland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQGP-RXB
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPM2-4V7
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7FB-K4G
On the 1851 place of birth is Scotland Dumfriesshire Sangaford. Could be worth looking at him as a potential relative of James and John.
Looby :)
Amended- Should have added - Sangaford is probably a mistranscription (maybe Sanquhar ??) :-\
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I agree, Looby.
It certainly looks like a possibility.
Thanks.
MT ;)
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Right Looby ... I've explored Jeremiah and I don't think he's related. :(
It would have been lovely if he was ... James, John and Jeremiah!
This chap is an architect and I've found him from christening to John Dobson and ?? McCricick or a Mary McCrone in 1814 (neither of which tally), through the 1841-1871 (in Scotland) censuses and even worse, when he marries Ann Sawyer in Rothwell (Leeds) in 1844 his father, John Dobson, is a shoemaker whereas MY John Dobson was most definitely a cloth-weaver/tailor/draper.
So it's back to the drawing board, I'm afraid.
Thanks anyway.
MT ;)