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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Hatter99 on Saturday 06 September 14 18:02 BST (UK)
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I'm looking to find what happened to a William Walter Lisle b.1891 in Newburn, Northumberland (shown as 1892 on the enlistment papers) who emigrated to Canada in 1912 and Enlisted at Smiths Falls 42nd Regiment in 1915.
He returns to Canada in December 1919.
On 5 February 1919 he marries a Sarah Paterson b.1899 in Shettleston, Lanarkshire.
Address at the time of marriage is 48 Ashdale Avenue, Toronto.
The marriage is witnessed by his brother Thomas Lisle and his wife Ann who emigrated to Canada 1913. Thomas lives at 236 Worley Avenue, Toronto at the time of the marriage.
I have been unable to trace either William or his brother on the 1921 Canadian census (Ancestry says the census is complete). Probably doing something wrong!
Any advice or help gratefully received.
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Hmmm - no sign - must be mis-transcribed. Thomas obviously stayed in Toronto, he appears on the Canada Voters List a lot later with daughters. 31 Frankland Avenue, York, Ontario in 1935 and 78 Beachview Crescent, Toronto, Ontario.
Sandra
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Hi Hattie
The only William Lisle I can see is
1921 Census
William Lisle b England 1883
Edeath Lilse b England 1883
Jackson Lisle b 1911
Living with a Blowes family
I wonder if Sarah died, and he remarried Edeath, and she already had a son and he took the Lisle name
Margp
Margp
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Nearest one that I can see is mis-transcribed - William Liste who is William Lisle born 1894 - Parents born England. Residing 14 Cariton Street with a wife Mary Lisle aged 22 years - born 1899 - both roomers. William is a salesman. Immigrated 1918. Mary Immigrated 1911. Parents born Scotland.
Sandra
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Canada Voters List 1940 - 171 Pickering Street -Danforth Ontario - Wm Lisle - Occupation :- Painter. With a Mrs Wm Lisle.
Canada Voters List 1935 - 115 pickering Street - Danforth Ontario - William Lisle (Painter) and Mrs William Lisle.
Sandra
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Hi,
Would Thomas be Thomas Roger, born 1883? If so, he died in Mimico on April 11 1968. Wife Annie Walker predeceased him. 5 children listed... I can probably name them - given the D.O.B. of the father...John of Montreal, Dorothea (Mrs R Hepburn) of Etobicoke, Charles of Port Credit, Eunice (Mrs C Buck) of Welland, Ross of Willowdale. Thomas is buried in Spring Creek Cemetery, Clarkson. Obit in the Toronto Star 11 April 1968, Page B48.
Thomas
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lisle&GSiman=1&GScid=1981500&GRid=127865973&
Annie
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lisle&GSiman=1&GScid=1981500&GRid=127865972&
RK
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Hi,
Would Thomas be Thomas Roger, born 1883? If so, he died in Mimico on April 11 1968. Wife Annie Walker predeceased him. 5 children listed... I can probably name them - given the D.O.B. of the father...John of Montreal, Dorothea (Mrs R Hepburn) of Etobicoke, Charles of Port Credit, Eunice (Mrs C Buck) of Welland, Ross of Willowdale. Thomas is buried in Spring Creek Cemetery, Clarkson. Obit in the Toronto Star 11 April 1968, Page B48.
Thomas
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lisle&GSiman=1&GScid=1981500&GRid=127865973&
Annie
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lisle&GSiman=1&GScid=1981500&GRid=127865972&
RK
RK - don't think those are the names - daughters should be Vera/Veronica Isabel born 1908 and Annie Robertson born 1912. Thomas was born 1881/2 and wife Jane Ann Robertson 1882
Sandra
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Someone has an ancestry tree with William Walter Lisle married to Maude Chorley (1897 - 1964)
The death of William Walter Lisle born 6 March 1891 - shown as died 15 Feb 1961 (doesn't say where)
This couple have a daughter Mary Josephine Lisle born in 1926. Married to Robert Murray McCheyne Wallace 6 September 1952 - St Matthews Presbyterian, Toronto. Mary Josephine Lisle/Wallace died 10 May 1998 in Waterloo Ontario.
Robert Murray McCheyne Wallace born 28 July 1930 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and died 18 April 2006 in London Ontario
Sandra
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Canada Voters list 1953 - William Lisle - Watchman - and Mrs Maude Lisle - 3610 St Clair Ave, Scarborough York Ontario.
Canada Voters List 1963 - shows Maude Lisle - widow at the same address.
Sandra
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Obit Robert MurrayMcCheyne Wallace
Robert Murray McCheyne Wallace - 75 years London ON; London Free Press; 2006-4-12*JB
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAN-ONT-OBITS/2006-04/1145151302
Under Kamerman - Robert Murray McCheyne Wallace - Passed away peacefully at the Parkwood Hospital on Monday, April 10, 2006 in his 76th year. Beloved husband of the late Mary WALLACE (1998.) etc etc
Sandra
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Jane (wife of Thomas) Lisle (housewife) and daughter Annie Lisle (nurse) on the Canada Voters list 1957 at 583 Mortimer York East. (No sign of Thomas)
Canada Voters List 1963/65 Jane Lisle listed as widow and Annie Lisle nurse - same address.
Sandra
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Someone has an ancestry tree with William Walter Lisle married to Maude Chorley (1897 - 1964)
The death of William Walter Lisle born 6 March 1891 - shown as died 15 Feb 1961 (doesn't say where)
Sandra
Hi,
Couldn't find William doing any sort of name search, so I used these dates and looked at the death records in the Star...
William Walter Lisle died on 15 Feb 1961 -- at his home 3610 St Clair Ave East. Aged 70. Husband of Maud Chorley. Father of Mrs Robert Wallace of Agincourt. Interment Resthaven Memorial Gardens.
Toronto Star, 15 Feb 1961, page 33
RK
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Thank you all for taking the trouble to reply, so quickly.
RK, Sandra, it looks as though Sarah died and William re-married, do you have any suggestions as to how I could find this out? Ancestry doesn't seem to have the necessary records.
Once again thank you all for the assistance.
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You're very welcome. Sorry I haven't been able to find anything on Sarah so far.
Sandra
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Quick update I've now found a copy of the Maude Chorley marriage in 1926 on Family Search, she marries a William Lyall (a bachelor) the son of an Edward Lyall and Mary Nichol. I can't see that William Walter Lisle is the same person who marries Maude.
Hopefully something will pop up on Ancestry to conform what happened to him and Sarah.
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Obit for Maud says she died September 17,1965 at the home of her daughter, Mary (Mrs. R. Wallace), 69 Shilton Road, Agincourt (a part of Scarborough, now all part of the City of Toronto). Also names one granddaughter. Buried at Rest Haven Memorial Gardens.
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Eileen thank you such a swift reply.
I'm trying to find out what happened to a William Walter Lisle who married a Sarah H Patterson in Toronto in 1919 but they seem to disappear after their wedding. Maude not related to the Lisle I'm trying to trace, although there are trees which him married to her.
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Is this Sarah in Scotland with mother and grandparents 1901 ???
James Blackley 56
Blackley 20 John Blackley 15
Sarah Blackley 13 William Blackley 11
Robert Blackley 8
Elisebeth Paterson 26 Sarah Paterson 1
Mary Blaikley 4
An Elizabeth Blackly married John Paterson 1898 Calder (Eastern) - 626/A2 17
Sandra
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If that is the correct parents above ??? - there are marriages for other siblings - Nettie Patterson to John Ralston 24 December 1927 - Guelph Wellington Ontario.
and William Paterson to Sadie Smith Hewer 12 June 1936 - Hamilton Wentworth Ontario.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jia/
Sandra
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Have you investigated this one ??? Interesting anc tree showing - ??? ??? ??? ???
John Laird Paterson (with photograph) 1875–1959 passed away September 1959 - Oshawa, Durham, Ontario.
Elizabeth Blaikley (with photograph) 1874–1948
born 1 July 1874 - Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire passed away 1 December 1948 - Oshawa, Durham, Ontario.
and......................
Sarah Harvey 'Lil' Paterson 1899–1977
born 12 October 1899 - Cadder Eastern District, Lanarkshire - Scotland
passed away 1977 - Elora, Wellington County, Ontario.
married to George McKenzie Kerr - 1902–1984
born 26 March 1902 - Wellington, Ontario, Canada passed away 1984
FIND A GRAVE
Burial: Elora Cemetery Elora Wellington County Ontario, Canada
Plot: L2-15
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=133861093
a son Wallace John Kerr 25 January 1928 - passed away 1983
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=133861099&ref=acom
Sandra
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Hi,
So, the thinking is William Walter Lisle and Sarah H Paterson may have divorced and each remarried? Sarah to George Kerr??
Found the obit for son Wallace John Kerr d 1983. He was 55. Husband of E. Father of G and Dr R Schalk of Washington State. Grandfather of 2. Son of George Kerr and the late Sarah Kerr. Brother of M (Mrs J Barnall/Barnett --hard to read, so not sure of name) and E (Mrs J Korpan)
RK
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You could see if you can get the obit for John Paterson who died in Oshawa in Sept 1959. Here is the contact information for the Oshawa library and the date/newspaper where you will find the obituary
http://news.ourontario.ca/1174994/data?n=1
RK
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Thank you for all the replies, the only one that seem to makes sense is if William Walter dies or they divorce which would allow Sarah to remarry, unless we go down the bigamy route!!,
I'm convinced that the chap who marries Maude Chorley is not William Walter Lisle, based on the marriage record that's available on Family Search. As the name is spelt differently and the parents are different from my William W.
I have the birth certificate for Sarah H Paterson B in 1899 she's the daughter of John Paterson and Elizabeth Blaikley (spelling of name varies depending on who is recording it).
Finding a birth for Wallace John Kerr in 1928 or his parents marriage could solve the problem but I've never had any luck with that either.
Once again thank you for your suggestions.
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RK,
Many thanks I've just emailed the Oshawa library to see if they can mail me a copy.
Bob
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Super - I hope the obituary gives you some answers.
This might be Wallace Kerr's brother-in-law James Barnett. Died in Guelph in 2004. Husband of Margaret Kerr (1996). Buried in Elora.
http://obittree.com/obituary/ca/ontario/fergus/graham-a-giddy-funeral-homes-ltd/james-barnett/1291718/
RK