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Title: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Saturday 06 September 14 21:29 BST (UK)
Hi, I have in my tree:

Arthur Graney b 1874 Selston.

Together with his wife Mahala Graney and their 2 children, Winifred and Edward they boarded the ship "Ionic" on the 24th June 1910 in London and sailed to Wellington in New Zealand.

I do not have a "world wide" subscription to Ancestry so I cannot find what happened to them after that date, finding a death record for Arthur and his wife would be wonderful, does anyone know anything about them? any help would be extremely appreciated.

Regards always

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: atina576 on Saturday 06 September 14 22:18 BST (UK)
Arthur died June 1956 & was buried in Maunu Cemetery, Whangarei on 25 June 1956 - Mahala is buried there as well but sorry I didn't take down her details.
If you google New Zealand Cemeteries online then scroll down to Whangarei you will find them.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Saturday 06 September 14 22:26 BST (UK)
Hi atina576, thank you so much for that, it is  greatly appreciated.
Many thanks and best regards.

Frank  :)
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Saturday 06 September 14 23:54 BST (UK)
Burials
Surname:   GRANEY
Forenames:   ARTHUR
Age:   82 Years
Gender:   Male
Date of Death:   Not recorded
Funeral Director:   Newberrys Funeral Home, P O Box 5116, Regent, WHANGAREI
Cemetery:   Maunu Cemetery, Cemetery Road, Whangarei
Plot Location:   Forest Lawn Block Thirteen Plot 307
Date of Burial:   25 Jun 1956
Body / Ashes   Body

Surname:   GRANEY
Forenames:   MAHALA
Age:   80 Years
Gender:   Not recorded
Date of Death:   Not recorded
Funeral Director:   Newberrys Funeral Home, P O Box 5116, Regent, WHANGAREI
Cemetery:   Maunu Cemetery, Cemetery Road, Whangarei
Plot Location:   Forest Lawn Block Thirteen Plot 307
Date of Burial:   28 Nov 1952
Body / Ashes   Body

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 00:07 BST (UK)
This looks like Edward's death

1994/44253   Graney    Edward    born 3 May 1903

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 00:11 BST (UK)
His marriage

1928/8009   Hilda Winifred    Valentine  to   Edward    Graney

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 00:27 BST (UK)
Edward's marriage notice

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/019xf/

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 00:42 BST (UK)
here is a newspaper death notice for Winifred

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/019xh/

her death on NZ BDMs

1938/17400   Cotter    Winnifred    37Y

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 00:44 BST (UK)
Her husband's death

1983/44912   Cotter    James Richard    born 31 December 1908

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 00:46 BST (UK)
A bereavement notice mentioning her parents

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/019xi/

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 00:53 BST (UK)
 They obviously had more children in NZ

http://www.rootschat.com/links/019xj/

Death
1943/17743   Graney    Hiram John    aged 23Y

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 07 September 14 01:23 BST (UK)
 GRANEY, HILDA WINIFRED
  Plot :                                  N/A
  Interment Type:              Cremation
  Title:                                  Mrs
  Surname :                        GRANEY
  Given Names:                 HILDA WINIFRED
  Age :                                  44
  Gender :                            Female
  Occupation:                     HOME DUTIES
  Date Of Death :                16-Jul-1950
  Date Of Cremation :       N/A
  Date Of Burial :                N/A 
  Funeral Director :           WATNEY SIBUNS AND SONS LIMITED
  Head Stone Details :      N/A


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bpz/

There are two other Graney's at this cemetery, one is Roland.   At this stage I can't see Edward.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 07 September 14 01:30 BST (UK)

Death
1943/17743   Graney    Hiram John    aged 23Y

Cheers Janette

At Christchurch Bromley Cemetery ..... my lappy is on a go slow at the moment, so can't put the link up .... can you do it please Janette?

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 01:32 BST (UK)
I think the gremlins are still about KHP

Surname:    Graney
First name(s):    Hiram John
Date of death:    Tuesday, 23 March 1943
Cemetery:    Bromley
Date of burial:    Thursday, 25 March 1943
Block number:    9
Plot number:    464SS
Age:    23 years
Address:    
Occupation:    Labourer
Place of birth:    
Years in New Zealand:    23

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 07 September 14 02:22 BST (UK)
Thanks Janette, my ISP wasn't involved, but my connection was starting to drop out.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 07 September 14 06:28 BST (UK)
Probated wills held @ Auckland Archives for:

Mahala Graney (1952), married woman.

Arthur Graney (1956), retired rotary burner.

www.archway.archives.govt.nz


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Sunday 07 September 14 13:40 BST (UK)
Hi, Wow! look at all of that!

Thank you all so much for all of this information.

minniehaha, many thanks for the probate record link, I will get onto it today.

Janette and kiwihalfpint, thank you both so, so much for all that you have told me and the links you have supplied, I am going to be busy with it all today.

Once again my very best regards and heartfelt thanks.

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 20:48 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

If you don't mind waiting a week or so I can get the Auckland probates for you,

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 07 September 14 21:14 BST (UK)

1938/17400   Cotter    Winnifred    37Y

Cheers Janette

According to my burial locator, Winifred's location is supposed to be at Maunu Cemetery, but I can't see her on the Whangarei Cemetery Database ....

Janette, is it worthwhile getting in touch with the Council/Cemetery re Winifred?

However, her husband James Richard Cotter was cremated at Waikumete, (link I gave you in Reply #11).

  Interment Type:              Cremation
  Title:                                  MR
  Surname :                        COTTER
  Given Names:                 JAMES RICHARD
  Age :                                  74
  Gender :                            Male
  Occupation:                     RETIRED
  Date Of Death :                08-Jun-1983
  Date Of Cremation :       N/A
  Date Of Burial :                N/A 
  Funeral Director :           DAVIS FUNERAL SERVICES
  Head Stone Details :      N/A

The death notice should shed some light on family.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 21:18 BST (UK)
Hi KHP

I thought she should be up in Whangarei,I will send them an email

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 07 September 14 21:27 BST (UK)
Another one keeping us on our toes :D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Sunday 07 September 14 21:38 BST (UK)
Hi Janette and kiwihalfpint  :)

Thank you both so much for all of your hard work, it really is appreciated.

Janette I would love the probate's but please, don't put yourself out on my account, time is not an issue, thank you so much for the offer I am so greatfull.

Take care.

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 07 September 14 21:58 BST (UK)
I can have a look for the James Richard COTTER death notice, if helpful?


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 07 September 14 22:27 BST (UK)
I have had a reply from the council saying the are checking their records (I nearly said they were looking into it) :o :o

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Sunday 07 September 14 22:30 BST (UK)
I can have a look for the James Richard COTTER death notice, if helpful?


Minniehaha.


Hi Minniehaha, that would be great, thank you so very much for your help.

My very best regards and thanks.

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Sunday 07 September 14 22:31 BST (UK)
I have had a reply from the council saying the are checking their records (I nearly said they were looking into it) :o :o

Cheers Janette


Hi Janette, made me chuckle.  ;D ;D ;D

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 07 September 14 23:17 BST (UK)
Hi Frank.........

While I am about it, I will also have a look for the death notice of Hilda Winifred GRANEY. However, it might be a couple of weeks before I can do this. Hope that is ok?

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Sunday 07 September 14 23:28 BST (UK)
Hi minniehaha, thank you for your very kind offer of help, there is absolutely no rush for any information you may be able to provide me with, thank you so much for what you are doing for me, I am truly gratefull.

Take care.

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 07 September 14 23:35 BST (UK)
Hi,

I see that there is another marriage for a James Richard Cotter the same year that Winifred died.  (They were married three years prior).   There is a Dorothy Isabel (nee McIntyre) Cotter on the Waikumete Cemetery website.

  Interment Type:              Cremation
  Title:                                  Mrs
  Surname :                        COTTER
  Given Names:                 DOROTHY ISABELL
  Age :                                  72
  Gender :                            Female
  Occupation:                     WIDOW
  Date Of Death :                13-Dec-1988
  Date Of Cremation :       N/A
  Date Of Burial :                N/A 
  Funeral Director :           DAVIS FUNERAL SERVICES
  Head Stone Details :      N/A

Do you want to add this death notice to your list Minnie, to see if names match and right person?

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 07 September 14 23:38 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

As the above years of marriage aren't on the BDM website, I can't put them up, but have given you clues :D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 07 September 14 23:45 BST (UK)
Can do that KHP......  :)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Monday 08 September 14 00:02 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

As the above years of marriage aren't on the BDM website, I can't put them up, but have given you clues :D


Cheers
KHP



Thank you so much KHP. ;)

Regards

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Monday 08 September 14 00:06 BST (UK)
Here is the cemetery reply

Good Morning

"Thank you for your recent enquiry.

After searching our records unfortunately I cannot find a record for the late COTTER, Winifred.

Although referenced on the memorial for A&M Graney I can find no further reference to Winifred in our records.

Unless there is some alternative information, such as any other possible names, I’m afraid I can’t be much help."


It seems they have lost the plot ;D ;D

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Monday 08 September 14 00:11 BST (UK)
Here is the cemetery reply

Good Morning

"Thank you for your recent enquiry.

After searching our records unfortunately I cannot find a record for the late COTTER, Winifred.

Although referenced on the memorial for A&M Graney I can find no further reference to Winifred in our records.

Unless there is some alternative information, such as any other possible names, I’m afraid I can’t be much help."


It seems they have lost the plot ;D ;D

Cheers Janette



Stunning!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

No worries  ;)

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 00:13 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D

Oh dear ..... perhaps this could help in replying to them? ..... perhaps somebody could have a look at the cemetery fiche at the library, if they can't offer anymore information on the below? I am sure I haven't lost the plot with this :P ;D :D

Source   NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname   COTTER
Given Names   Winifred
Year of Death   1938
Record Number   608
Record Type   M/I
Age   N/R
Location   Maunu Cemetery A06.22

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Monday 08 September 14 00:23 BST (UK)
Hi KHP

I suspect that refers to the M/I that the cemetery referred to

"Although referenced on the memorial for A&M Graney"

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 08 September 14 00:23 BST (UK)
It's on my list KHP.............. :)

(May take a couple of weeks.)

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 00:34 BST (UK)
A bit of digging to do ;D  Now where did I put that spade :P


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Monday 08 September 14 00:55 BST (UK)
Just don't loose the plot KHP ;D ;D :P :P

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 01:12 BST (UK)
Hope I haven't yet Janette ;D

In Reply #11, I mentioned I couldn't find where Edward was.  Think I have found him :D

According to a tree on Ancestry, for the parents, the death date for Edward was 25 July 1994 in Birkenhead.

Looks like he remarried to a Lilian Ada Jennings.  She died 1 Feb 1986 in Auckland. Cremated at North Shore Cemetery

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f6e/

Frank, it might pay to contact the owner, as there looks like to be children living.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 08 September 14 01:31 BST (UK)
Edward not found in North Shore cemeteries. However I can add his death notice to my list..........


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 01:42 BST (UK)
No, I couldn't see him either.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 08 September 14 02:51 BST (UK)
Birth registration not found for Edward GRANEY...........


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 02:58 BST (UK)
Birth registration not found for Edward GRANEY...........


Minniehaha.

Minnie, there isn't one ..... Frank's first post states, the family left England for here.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 08 September 14 03:00 BST (UK)
Another "oops" moment!  ::)  :P

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 03:06 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D  Moments like these you need "Minties" .... or a "Kitkat"   :D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 08 September 14 03:16 BST (UK)
Sure do! I'm just not keeping up. Getting old(er).  ;D

Minniehaha.

P.S. Wondering if someone may be able to pinpoint place of burial/cremation for Edward?? Or are the records you hold, as far as one can go without access to the library fiche?
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 03:25 BST (UK)
I have been through my records backwards and forwards ... he only shows up for his first marriage.  Not even the Tree Owner has put the burial place.   Am thinking that the Death Printout might indicate where he could be.    I also wonder perhaps if he was cremated.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 08 September 14 03:30 BST (UK)
A printout should give that information, however I'm hoping there was a death notice.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Monday 08 September 14 04:02 BST (UK)
There is a chance that he was cremated by one of the bigger FD's in Auckland who now have their own facilities,it is going to cause a large black hole for our Auckland records,both Morrisons and Davis' have their own facilities.

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 04:44 BST (UK)
That is probably why, I can't find the ones that I want .... no indication on the notice where they are.... most annoying for researchers.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Monday 08 September 14 11:23 BST (UK)
Hi there is a tree on Ancestry stating Edward's place of burial was:

 Birkenhead Auckland NZ 25th July 1994, aged 91 years.

Off to get Grandaughter her lunch, then going to dig some more  ;D


Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 11:29 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

That looks like the place of death, but as mentioned in Minnie's Reply #40 is not showing up on the North Shore Cemeteries website, nor on my resources.  Janette's Reply #49 could be the possible scenario.  Might just have to hold fire until Minnie can sight the Death Notice and see if it is mentioned where he is.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Monday 08 September 14 11:36 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

That looks like the place of death, but as mentioned in Minnie's Reply #40 is not showing up on the North Shore Cemeteries website, nor on my resources.  Janette's Reply #49 could be the possible scenario.  Might just have to hold fire until Minnie can sight the Death Notice and see if it is mentioned where he is.


Cheers
KHP



 :-[ :-[ :-[

Running before I can walk KHP, running before I can walk.  ;D

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 08 September 14 11:41 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D  Happens to us all, no need to be embarrassed.

If all else fails with the Death Notice, order the Death Printout, which is cheaper and has more info, can be emailed to you, and should tell where he is.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Monday 08 September 14 12:04 BST (UK)
Will do  :)

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 11 September 14 12:38 BST (UK)
From the cemetery microfiche A06.22, Maunu Cemetery, Whangarei........

Winifred Cotter, mother of M* T* and only loving daughter of A. and M. Graney. Died 18.4.1938.

More to come re death notices, later............

*Deleted as may still be living.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Thursday 11 September 14 14:00 BST (UK)
Hi minniehaha, thank you so much for that.  :)

Regards always

Frank.  :)
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 11 September 14 22:02 BST (UK)
Hi Frank, PM sent to you re the newspaper death notice of Edward Graney. Died 25.7.1994.

[Service held at Schnapper Rock Crematorium. No funeral directors names shown. Should not this death recorded on the North Shore cemeteries website??]

More notices to come. I'm finding the laptop a trial to use.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Thursday 11 September 14 22:20 BST (UK)
Hi Minnie

Did Edward have a middle name?

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Thursday 11 September 14 22:28 BST (UK)
Hi minniehaha, many thanks for PM, and information regarding the death notice, I am truly greatfull to you.
As mentioned there is only Lilian Ada Graney died 1st Feb 1986 showing on North Shore cemetery's website. strange that.

Regards and thanks.
Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Thursday 11 September 14 22:43 BST (UK)
Hi Janette,  :) as far as I am aware, he had no middle name, I have not come across one being used in my research, ( I have been known to be wrong tho'  ;D )

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 11 September 14 22:45 BST (UK)
No middle name for Edward GRANEY Janette.

He was the husband of the late Lola and the late Hilda; step-father of............

More death notices to come.


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 September 14 01:22 BST (UK)
Newspaper death notice PM'd for Hilda Winifred Graney, wife of Edward, mother of M*.

Edward's death notice however makes no mention of him as "father" of, just step-father of............


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 12 September 14 01:55 BST (UK)
I have emailed the North Shore Memorial Park and asked them if they could check their records for Edward.

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 September 14 05:11 BST (UK)
Newspaper death notices sent by PM re:

James Richard Cotter and his wife, Dorothy Isabel Cotter.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 September 14 05:25 BST (UK)
Frank this coming week I will have a look for 'M'., daughter of Hilda Winifred & Edward Graney.

Also 'M.T.', daughter of (Winifred Cotter, who died 1938)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 13 September 14 04:48 BST (UK)
A little more Frank........
 
I have PM'd the death notice of Lola Graney, died 1.2.1986, second wife of Edward Graney. It would appear that her death was registered under the name of Lilian Ada Graney, her d.o.b. being 30.8.1903.

Not quite a full house yet. Apart from the above-mentioned "M" & "M.T.", I will have a look for the death notice of Ronald Graney (22.6.1978) to see if he is connected to your Graney families.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Saturday 13 September 14 13:42 BST (UK)
Hi again,

Minniehaha, thank you for all of this new information, as always I am truly greatfull, you are a star  :)

Janette, my thanks to you also, I really cannot thank you enough  :)

Regards always

Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 14 September 14 08:16 BST (UK)
There is a probated will (1990) for Dorothy Isobell Cotter, also known as Dorothy Isabel Cotter held @ Auckland archives.

Also one (1950) for Hilda Winifred Graney, married woman, held @ same archives.

For website see reply #15............

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Sunday 14 September 14 12:30 BST (UK)
Hi, Thank you so much for that minniehaha, you're a star, ;)

Frank.  :)
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 19 September 14 05:28 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

I have PM'd some details about the Cotter/Graney families. I will shortly PM newspaper death notice details for Ronald GRANEY, although not sure where, or if, he fits in with your family.
His wife was Lorna Drysdale GRANEY*.

*I will send her burial/cremation details shortly.

Probated wills held at Auckland archives for both Ronald GRANEY (1978), of Thames, retired teacher & Lorna Drysdale GRANEY (1985), of Thames, widow.

Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 19 September 14 05:33 BST (UK)

From Purewa cemetery records:

Surname    GRANEY
First Names    Lorna Drysdale
Age    68 Years
Gender    Female
Date of Death    12 May 1985
Religion    Anglican
Serial No    49801
Date of Service and/or Interment    16 May 1985
Type Of Service   
Funeral Director    Twentymans Funeral Services, P O Box 57 OR 709 Pollen St, Thames
Ashes Disposal    Scattered
Book Of Remembrance    No

Burial/cremation details not found for husband Ronald GRANEY, but a private cremation took place, possibly in Thames?

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 19 September 14 05:39 BST (UK)
Ronald was cremated at Waikumete in Auckland

GRANEY, RONALD
Plot :                                  N/A
Interment Type:              Scattered Ashes
Title:                                  MR
Surname :                        GRANEY
Given Names:                 RONALD
Age :                                  64
Gender :                            Male
Occupation:                     RTD SCHOOL TEACHER
Date Of Death :                22-Jun-1978
Date Of Cremation :       N/A
Funeral Director :           TWENTYMANS FUNERAL SERVICES
Head Stone Details :      N/A

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 19 September 14 06:08 BST (UK)
Ronald was the elder son of Mr W H Graney

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01a1v/

Death
1968/49404   Graney    Walter Henry    80Y

burial
Walter Henry GRANEY    
AGED:80    
Male    
Died 26/04/1968
Born:       
Buried:    29/04/1968
Type:    Burial    
Funeral Director:    Twentymans Funeral Services
Last Address:    Unspecified    
Location:    Hamilton Park Cemetery
CHRRY-01-45

Next plot

Phoebe GRANEY
Aged:68
Female    
Died:17/06/1958
Born:       
Buried:    19/06/1958
Type:    Burial    
Funeral Director:    Lloyd A Williams
Last Address:    Unspecified    
Location:    Hamilton Park Cemetery
CHRRY-01-44

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 19 September 14 06:13 BST (UK)
Janette, any feed back from NS Memorial Park?


Cheers
KHP

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 19 September 14 06:19 BST (UK)
Janette, any feed back from NS Memorial Park?

Cheers
KHP

Ermmmmmm yes there was but it was useless telling me to look at the DIA's website,I did email them back as the reply seemed to come from the council's enquiry dept and not the cemetery but they haven't replied

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 19 September 14 06:21 BST (UK)
Left arm not knowing what the right arm was doing?   :P


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 19 September 14 06:46 BST (UK)
Frank for elimination or not for Walter Henry and Phoebe Graney.

Walter Henry Graney  birth place was Brinsley, Nottinghamshire, England, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire.   His occupation was a Coal Miner Hewer. 

The 1901 Census shows him as the son of George and Sarah Graney.


Cheers
KHP

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Friday 19 September 14 19:53 BST (UK)
Hi all,  :)

Well, I cannot believe the information you have all provided, I will be adding it to my tree for weeks to come  :)

minniehaha, many thanks for the messages and the information regarding burial's and cemetery records which you have kindly provided.

Janette, thank you so much for the information which you have supplied regarding Ronald and the information regarding Walter and Phoebe, that is wonderful and I really appreciate it.

Kiwihalfpint, thank you so much for the posts regarding Walter Henry and Phoebe, according to what I have found out today they are all connected and related, Walter and Phoebe look to have sailed to New Zealand in June 1926 with 4 children on the "Athenic" 8)

Once again can I just say a great big thank you to you all, you are all absolutely priceless.

Best Regards always

Frank.

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 19 September 14 21:49 BST (UK)
Hi Frank

Here is the maifest for Walter and family
there were 4 children
Walter aged 38
Phoebe age 37
Elizabeth aged 15
Ronald aged 12
Norman age 10
Freda aged 7

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12441-74435-28?cc=1609792

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 19 September 14 21:57 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

Some of Walter & Phoebe's children and grandchildren were covered in the death notices for Ronald Graney (1978).

I will shortly be able to provide details which will enable you to contact relatives if you so wish..........

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 19 September 14 21:59 BST (UK)
Norman is also buried in Hamilton with ? his wife and maybe a son who died this year

http://www.hamilton.govt.nz/our-services/do-it-online/cemetery-search/Pages/default.aspx?surname=graney

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 19 September 14 22:04 BST (UK)
Further to your reply Janette, yes, Lenna was the wife of Norman GRANEY as per the death notice for Ronald Graney.

I can look for the death notices of Norman & Lenna.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 19 September 14 22:11 BST (UK)
Here is a lovely obituary for Richard Lonsdale Graney

http://www.pharmacytoday.co.nz/in-print/2014/june-2014/june-2014/a-tall-kauri-tree-has-fallen.aspx

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 20 September 14 03:02 BST (UK)
A number of contact addresses and telephone numbers sent by PM Frank...........

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 20 September 14 03:57 BST (UK)
Hi Frank, here are some snippets from the 'Papers Past' website-

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

1.Engagement of Ronald GRANEY & Lorna Drysdale SAYER. ['New Zealand Herald', dated 1.7.1939]

2.Engagement of Norman, second son of Mr. & Mrs. W. H. GRANEY, Claudelands, Hamilton, to ***. ['New Zealand Herald', dated 11.5.1940]

3.Birth @ Kenwyn, Te Aroha, to Lorna wife of Lieutenant GRANEY, twin daughters. ['New Zealand Herald', dated 22.12.1943]

4.'New Zealand Herald', dated 28.4.1943 @ Campbell-Johnstone, Hamilton, to F* nee GRANEY, wife of Aircraftman W. R. M***, a daughter. [These names mentioned in death notice of Ronald Graney.]

5.A W. J. GRANEY mentioned in the New Zealand University results. ['New Zealand Herald', dated 3.2.1893.

6.A Francis GRANEY mentioned in Supreme Court trials. ['New Zealand Herald' & the 'Press', dated 13.6.1898]

7.A Wm. H. GRANEY mentioned. ['Evening Post' dated 17.4.1871]

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 20 September 14 04:20 BST (UK)
Further to my reply immediately above, I have now found the death of Aircraftman W. R. M*** in number 4. [No details of death found for his wife.]

He was William Raymond MACKIE. Died in 1988, date of birth- 30.8.1912.

Probated will (1988) held @ Auckland archives; of Te Awamutu, manufacturer.

Here are his burial details:

William Raymond MACKIE   75   Male   09/03/1988
Born:   30/08/1912   Buried:   14/03/1988
Type:   Burial   Funeral Director:   Unknown
Last Address:   ** Te Awamutu   Location:   Hamilton Park Cemetery.

I can add his newspaper death notice to my list.............

Minniehaha.



Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 20 September 14 04:44 BST (UK)
Also on my "to do" list-

Newspaper death notices for Phoebe GRANEY (1958) & Walter Henry GRANEY (1968).

Marriage for Elizabeth GRANEY.

There is a probated will (1968) held @ Auckland Archives for Walter Henry GRANEY of Hamilton, retired bootmaker.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 23 September 14 02:44 BST (UK)
Hi Frank

I have the Graney probates for you if you PM me your email addy  ;D

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 26 September 14 20:36 BST (UK)
Hello Frank.........

More information sent by PM. Enjoy!


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 26 September 14 21:26 BST (UK)
I think poor Frank might be swamped by all the information,when you come up for air Frank,let us know how you are doing  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 26 September 14 22:08 BST (UK)
Minnie, will feel she knows the whole family by now ;D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 27 September 14 02:59 BST (UK)
Yes KHP, I do feel as if I know the family quite well now.  ;D  It may be a bit overwhelming at first but I hope everyone falls into place on the family tree for Frank too.

There is more to come but I'm now on the home straight, I think.

Minniehaha.






Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Saturday 27 September 14 13:47 BST (UK)
Hi all, Gasp!! .......... Gasp, Gasp,

Just come up for air  ;D

Thank you all so much for all of this, I am doing OK, just in the process of putting it all together on the tree etc but have had a bit of a hectic few days on the home front and not been able to do as much as I wanted ::) but things are dropping into place nicely now.

I promise to keep you all updated  :)

Just off to pick up the Grandchildren  ::)

Frank.  ;)
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 03 October 14 07:16 BST (UK)
Hi Frank........

I have PM'd a number of newspaper death notices today, in case you are looking for something to do.  ;D  ;D

We have just about covered all of the family I think, but if you find there are still some gaps, just sing out.

Am including the burial record of Elizabeth Ida, nee Graney, a daughter of Walter & Phoebe. Further details about her and her husband provided by PM.

Burial Record   1 of 1
DBKey   2PUBL-087-0015
MapKey   2PUBL-087-0015
Surname   FANCY
Forenames   Elizabeth Ida
Cemetery   Totara Memorial Park Cemetery
Location   PUBL-087-0015
Plot Type   Normal
Plot Status   Used
Capacity   1
Gender   Female
Age   54
Age Unit   Years
Date of Birth   
Date of Death   
Burial Date   8/03/1965 12:00:00 a.m.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Friday 03 October 14 08:35 BST (UK)
Well FANCY that ;D ;D ;D

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 03 October 14 21:05 BST (UK)
Hi Frank........

Not quite a full house yet, as I see I still have to send information about Freda nee Graney. Have her death details but need to look up the newspaper death notice for you.

Kind regards,

Minniehaha.  :)

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 06 October 14 04:38 BST (UK)
Hi Frank,

This is in addition to the newspaper death notice sent by PM, together with death notice for second husband and his cremation details.

Freda SMITH   80   Female   02/06/1999
Born:      Cremated:   08/06/1999
Type:   Cremation   Funeral Director:   Te Awamutu Funeral Services
Last Address:   42/1 Young St Te Awamutu   Location:   Hamilton Park Cemetery

Hang in there Frank, not much more to come.  ;D  ;D

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 06 October 14 05:01 BST (UK)
Better watch out Minnie, Frank might get you to be his researcher for his trees   ;D :D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 06 October 14 05:39 BST (UK)

I think it is just about done and dusted now KHP. Whew!!!  ;D  8)


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Monday 06 October 14 05:50 BST (UK)
For those who need to come up for air
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 06 October 14 05:52 BST (UK)
Think Frank must be submerged somewhere .... has been rather quiet ;D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Tuesday 07 October 14 13:32 BST (UK)
Hi all,  :)

Many apologies if it seemed as if I was not interested in all of your wonderful help and research on my behalf, I am having strange computer trouble at the moment and am trying to sort it out, it appears to be running slow and have a mind of it's own  :o :o

Anyway, I have been adding all of this information to my tree and what a difference it has all made, with the addition of lots of individuals and records, I cannot thank you all enough and will give a full update as soon as I can.

In the meantime, please accept my very sincere and heartfelt thanks once again.

Take care.
Frank.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 07 October 14 19:17 BST (UK)
No apology needed Frank,it is just our Kiwi humour ::) ::)

Most of us have it  ;D ;D

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: jess5athome on Tuesday 23 December 14 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi, I haven't been on for a while due to one thing and another  ::) but I would just like to wish everyone on the New Zealand board a very happy Xmas and to wish you all the health and happiness for the coming year and to thank you for all of your wonderful help.

My sincere best wishes always.
Frank. :)

PS I can't believe the Santa smileys have come around so quickly.
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 23 December 14 19:54 GMT (UK)
Hello Frank........

Merry Christmas to you and yours and the very best for 2015.

It was a great pleasure to be able to help you expand the New Zealand part of your family tree. Hope we can be of assistance again some time.

Best wishes,

Minniehaha.  :D
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 23 December 14 19:56 GMT (UK)
Merry Christmas to you as well Frank.

Lets hope 2015 is another great year where we can chip away or smash those brick walls :)


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Arthur Graney. Looking for a possible death in New Zealand.
Post by: Janette on Wednesday 24 December 14 00:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Frank,

I hope you have a great Christmas and a very prosperous New Year  :) :)

Cheers Janette