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Title: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 09 September 14 22:09 BST (UK)
hi ive had this topic up before but have only just found out margarets maiden name was gardiner,,, she married my grandfather William duffy in 1910 in Dublin north pro cath, 1911 census there liven on faithful place north dock. there children were called mary Thomas Patrick cant think of the other two names. wouldlove to find out any info on Margaret and /or there children  if anybody could help. I know she died  when the children were young cause my grandfather married again in 1936 ,,,any help would be great ...
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Tuesday 09 September 14 22:46 BST (UK)
Hi Dave

If memory serves me right you talked about these Duffy's before, possibly on a few threads.

I think mainly in relation to Batchelors Walk.

Can you please post links to the others to save people duplicating research.

Thanks

Tara
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 09 September 14 23:09 BST (UK)
Yep was up years ago but I didn't no margarets maiden name at time....
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Tuesday 09 September 14 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi Dave

I am posting all the links re your Duffy family and the military boards that you have them on too.

I haven't included all the Waldron threads that the Duffys are mentioned on too.

Hopefully this will help anyone whom wishes to help you again  ;D

I may have missed some threads OR duplicated them  :o

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=382541.msg2550136#msg2550136

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=383836.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=386357.msg2582440#msg2582440

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=387498.msg2591855#msg2591855

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=391213.msg2626363#msg2626363

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=698795.0;last_msg=5420260

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=460210.msg3210679#msg3210679

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=543614.msg3212544#msg3212544

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=543614.msg3212380#msg3212380

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=494574.msg3521516#msg3521516

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=482638.msg3412225#msg3412225

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=540262.msg3972909#msg3972909

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=543614.msg3972899#msg3972899

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=582014.msg4336506#msg4336506

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=564019.msg4187853#msg4187853

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=607066.msg4565222#msg4565222

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=506013.msg4538378#msg4538378

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=609662.msg4589925#msg4589925

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=625554.msg4735998#msg4735998

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=523740.msg4726231#msg4726231

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=626682.msg4747107#msg4747107

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=644544.msg4913889#msg4913889

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=673195.msg5182586#msg5182586

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=673066.msg5181540#msg5181540

Best of Luck with your new lead !

Tara

Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 10 September 14 08:55 BST (UK)
Have you got Margarets fathers name
Irish Genealogy shows
A William Gardiner marrying Honor or Norah Lynam in St Michans in 1882.
The following Censuses show what appears to be them.


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_City/Masons_Market/1333172/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Upper_Tyrone_Street/1329900/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_City/Chapel_Lane/51223/

A widow in 1901 and married in 1911 ???
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 10 September 14 09:56 BST (UK)
No don't no her fathers name just her kids

..
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 10 September 14 10:19 BST (UK)
From what I've been told one of them.was knocked down by the free state army in dublin
But not sure if it was margaret herslef or one of the kids


 The name nora was mentioned
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 10 September 14 10:54 BST (UK)
 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYX9-KTY


suggest you get the above marriage cert which matches with Margaret Gardiner for her fathers name and address if you wish to proceed further.

Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 10 September 14 11:11 BST (UK)
Can I order it on line
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 10 September 14 21:28 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=599538.msg5032021#msg5032021

Have a read of this re ordering certs.
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: dathai on Thursday 11 September 14 08:48 BST (UK)
If thats the right Gardiner family i gave you on the censuses,check out the prison register for William Gardiner born circa 1851/5 Gloucester Place might explain why Norah pretended ??to be a widow in 1901 also his son Patrick born Greggs Lane and a William Duffy born Abbey St ?
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Friday 12 September 14 09:42 BST (UK)
Do u no what he was in jail for?
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: dathai on Friday 12 September 14 12:43 BST (UK)
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Awilliam~%20%2Bsurname%3Agardiner~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1851-1857~&collection_id=2043780

You still cant be certain that this is the right family without the marriage cert for William Duffy and Margaret Gardiner.
Norah or Honor Gardiner on the 1901 census is telling porkies with her age as she was married in 1882 she would have to have been at least 20 years old getting married bringing her date of birth back to 1862 or before with a possible birth on Irish Genealogy of 17 Nov 1858 for Honora Lynam dtr of Patrick Lynam and Maria Russell at 2 Belvedere Court.

As regards William Duffy

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Awilliam~%20%2Bsurname%3Aduffy~%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22abbey%20st%22~&collection_id=2043780

I dont know when or where he was born but one of his court appearences is for absence from his majestys army.
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: dathai on Friday 12 September 14 15:29 BST (UK)
Perhaps the William Duffy living in 10 Upr Tyrone  St in 1909 born 1890 is more likely him as thats the same address for William Gardiner in 1909.https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Awilliam~%20%2Bsurname%3Aduffy~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1888-1892~&collection_id=2043780

Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Friday 12 September 14 22:30 BST (UK)
My grandfather was william duffy born march 1890 dublin isthis him u are talkn bout???
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Saturday 13 September 14 02:40 BST (UK)
If its the same william.duffy were talkn about he was in the dublin fusiliers in ww1
..never heard anyting bout him.been in prison



Family story I did here was about nora gardiner been knocked down by a van been driven by the free state army
.. not sure how tru this story is
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: dathai on Saturday 13 September 14 09:06 BST (UK)
If the William Duffy in 1909 living in Tyrone St is your grandfather it is unlikely he spent time in prison as the offence was loitering he probably only got fined.
This would have been the year before he got married,what i was trying to do was show you the connection between the address for the Gardiner family and William Duffy perhaps where they met.

As i said earlier without the marriage cert you have no idea if these are the right people.
Title: Re: margaret gardiner/william duffy
Post by: will1890 on Saturday 13 September 14 10:08 BST (UK)
Cheers was wondering where this was all going
. My grandfathers wife died young anyway

. He remaried in 1936 ..