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Title: James Fergusson
Post by: HALE39 on Wednesday 10 September 14 13:17 BST (UK)
James Fergusson born approx. 1857
He died in 1921 aged 64 in the Newtown registration district [ 11b ] Wales.
Did James have any Family?
where was he living and what was his Profession?
are any of his descendants out there?
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 10 September 14 14:21 BST (UK)
Hi

This might be a possible:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7JX-MDN

Family search here:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/019z4/

I'm afraid that we can't give any more info from the 1911 census, only what's available on the free indexes.

Gadget
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 10 September 14 14:31 BST (UK)
This might be him in 1901

RG13/3687/66/13
421 Stockport Road, Ardwick,  Manchester
James Fergusson, 44, publican, b. Scotland
Elizabeth, , b. Keighley, Yorks
Walter, 15, shipping clerk, b. Bacup, Lancs
Katie, 13, b. do
Jeanie, 11, b. do
Dorothy, 9, b. do


Gadget
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 10 September 14 14:44 BST (UK)
This looks like the marriage, but 2 brides to choose from!

March qtr 1879
Bradford, Yorkshire district     vol 9b, page 179

Fergusson, James
+ and on the same page +
Darling, Elizabeth Ann
Hudson, Elizabeth Ann
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 10 September 14 14:54 BST (UK)
1881:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQFX-6Y8
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 10 September 14 14:57 BST (UK)
This looks like the marriage, but 2 brides to choose from!

March qtr 1879
Bradford, Yorkshire district     vol 9b, page 179

Fergusson, James
+ and on the same page +
Darling, Elizabeth Ann
Hudson, Elizabeth Ann

Think it's Hudson:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/26PM-FQR

(no Darling reg Keighley at that time)
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: HALE39 on Friday 12 September 14 03:15 BST (UK)
The James Fergusson I am looking for was born in the Sandon district Staffordshire,
in the 1871 census he is with his family in Wales at St Asaph, Abergele, Bettws Yn Rhos, Maesewig, Denbighshire.
Bit of a mouth full.
Details given are at age 14 he is listed under occupation as an "Engineer" what type or where is not defined but he is probably in an Apprenticeship of some sort.
By 1881 census his father has died and the rest of the family with the mother have moved back to Staffordshire.
he is now 24 and no where in sight.
the Newtown James does not now appear to fit as he is born in Scotland.
I can account for the rest of the family but not James.
Maybe some one out there knows my James.

thanks for all the replies sorry I left out some of the details.
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 12 September 14 07:27 BST (UK)
To help us all in our searches, this is the 1871 census:
Class: RG10; Piece: 5670; Folio: 49; Page: 17
Garred No 2, Bettws yn Rhos & Maesegwig, Denbighshire

Fergusson, John  Head  M  48  Sawyer Holding 6.5 Acres  b Scotland
Fergusson, Martha  Wife  F  45  b Stone, Staffordshire
Fergusson, James  Son  M  14  Engineer  b Sandon, Staffs
Fergusson, Martha Anne  Daughter  F  7  Scholar  b Sandon
Fergusson, John Cargy  Son  M  5  Scholar  b Sandon
Fergusson, Francis  Son  M  1  b Betws yn Rhos


1861 census: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1911; Folio: 135; Page: 7
Park Side, Sandon, Staffordshire

Furguson, John  Head  M  39  Circular Sawyer  b Scotland
Furguson, Christiana  Wife  F  39  b Scotland
Furguson, Jane  Daughter  F  11  Scholar  b Scotland
Furguson, Mary  Daughter  F  8  Scholar  b Staffordshire
Furguson, James  Son  M  4  Scholar  b Staffordshire

Death, September qtr 1861
Stone district     vol 6b, page 14
Fergusson, Christine

Marriage, June qtr 1862
Stone district     vol 6b, page 75
Fergusson, John
Foster, Martha
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 13 September 14 21:53 BST (UK)
Given there's one the right age in Newtown in 1911, but b Scotland so probably not yours, are you certain it isn't that one who dies in 1921?
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: mazi on Saturday 13 September 14 22:45 BST (UK)
there is a james fergusson ships carpenter at sea or abroad in the 1881,

I wonder who was the informant on the newtown death cert.

mike
Title: Re: James Fergusson
Post by: HALE39 on Sunday 14 September 14 00:23 BST (UK)
Mable it looks like James Fergusson 1911 census age 54 b Dumfries NB Dumfrieshire Scotland,
living in Newtown Llan llwchalarn Montgomeryshire see Gadget reply 1. is out the loop if this is the same person in Newtown listed in the 1921 death then he is also eliminated.
A big problem is that the English seem to use the one "S" spelling of the name and some transcriber's do also.
Other options are he has died between 1871 & 1881, he has migrated, or in the military or Merchant marine and may pop up later.
Thank you for your comment.