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Title: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: issykirkpatrick on Wednesday 17 September 14 21:53 BST (UK)
Could any one please tell me what 'The Pitt' is? My great grandparents Banns where posted there and my great grandmother used it as her address.
The only reference I have found is to 'a pitt full of water that thieving women were dunked in'

Thanks in advance for any help given.
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 18 September 14 06:00 BST (UK)
Hi, what is your source, ie. is it something transcribed or an original document?  If original, is there any doubt at all over what it says?

 
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: issykirkpatrick on Thursday 18 September 14 14:47 BST (UK)
It's from a marriage extract under 'where, when and how married', 'at The Pitt in the parish of Kirkgunzeon, after banns according to the forms--------------' in 1899. The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon is also given as the lady's 'Usual residence'. The marriage was registered in Kirkguneon by Robert Milligan (registrar). It is also very clear.
I'm really new to all this so just trying to find my way around, but have spent half a day trying to find out about 'The Pitt' and can't get anything.
Thanks
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: issykirkpatrick on Thursday 18 September 14 15:00 BST (UK)
Just found out that the lady in question was married at home so 'The Pitt' is likely to be a farmhouse or Hamlet.  Still can't reference it though.
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: josey on Thursday 18 September 14 15:20 BST (UK)
Scanned 1:2500 maps of 1893 on http://maps.nls.uk/geo/records/
Eastern portion of village
http://maps.nls.uk/view/82889976
Western portion
http://maps.nls.uk/view/82889898

PS I found reference to a sandpit in Bargrug south of Kirkgunzeon in the property index of the Registers of Scotland.

What was your great grandmother's name? And when was the marriage?

Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Thursday 18 September 14 15:40 BST (UK)
In the 6 inch 1843 - 1882, just South of Kirkgunzean station, there is a building named "Mossfoot", and just South of that, there is a larger building adjacent to "Old Gravel Pit". I wonder if thats it.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01a1n/

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: issykirkpatrick on Thursday 18 September 14 16:55 BST (UK)
The great grandmother I am looking for is Jane Gibson, she seems to have moved to Kirkgunzeon from Penpont between 1897 and 1899 and married my great grandfather William Kirkpatrick of Caerlavrock there in 1899. She also had a son William Gibson in 1897 and they had all moved to Southwick by the 1901 census.

Thanks Josey and Malky I will look at those links.
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: Istrice on Thursday 18 September 14 17:00 BST (UK)
Hi,
"Pitt" is not marked on any OS map that I have found, but it is recorded on John Ainslie's Map of the Southern Part of Scotland (http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400286).  "Pitt" was located approx 1.3mls NNE of Kirkgunzeon to the west of the road to Milton.
On the above map it lies between the properties Craigley, to the NW, and Whitehill to the SW of it.

Regards
Istrice

(This map is slightly less cluttered, and may make it easier to identify the location of the site on Google Earth (http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400267)
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: issykirkpatrick on Thursday 18 September 14 18:54 BST (UK)
Thanks Istrice

I found Pitt or Pit on both maps, it looks like it is probably a farm but expect it's name has changed or it is gone.
I've saved the link to both maps as my family seems to have moved around a fair bit and they are more detailed than most maps.

Thanks again everyone
Title: Re: 'The Pitt, Kirkgunzeon'
Post by: josey on Friday 19 September 14 13:22 BST (UK)
"Pitt" was located approx 1.3mls NNE of Kirkgunzeon to the west of the road to Milton.
Good finds Istrice, didn't think of looking at the older maps. Just for any readers of the post in the future - Pitt is actually NNW of Kirkgunzeon  ;)