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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: sue21757 on Wednesday 24 September 14 05:04 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking for a marriage in Belfast for a John Mann(born C1899) and Alice McMullan(Born 1912) in the early 1940's.
John is meant to have been in the Navy and died 24/6/1954 on board ship from appendicitis.Don't know where the death would have been registered.
There were three girls born in the 1940's to this couple.
Not sure where John was born and i am not having any luck with a marriage.
Thanks in advance.
Just been on the Northern Ireland Site and realised i can only get marriages up to 1939. so will have to wait a bit
Sue
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a possible family
http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=mann&srch_forename=&srch_identityno=&srch_yob=&submit=Search
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Islandmagee/Ballydown/989756/
1911 husband sons probably at sea?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Island_Magee/Ballydown/188130/
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following on dathai most likely family and searching for ballydown, I came across
http://www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Islandmagee.php
Mann, David, sailor, Ballydown
Mann, David, master mariner, Corner house
Mann, John, master mariner, Hillview cottage, Cloughfin
Mann, William, master mariner, Millbay
Mann, Thomas, sailor, Ballytober
A remarkable record for a surname occupation in a small community. I quickly became convinced he must have a record in Kew London as Merchant men and officers were highly prized by the Royal Navy Reserve, but I was unsuccessful.
Some Church records exist ISLANDMAGEE, CO. ANTRIM as found on PRONI website
C.I. Islandmagee (Connor diocese)
[Earliest registers destroyed in Dublin]
Baptisms, 1879-1917; burials, 1878-1915; vestry
minutes, 1879-99. MIC1/87
P. 1st Islandmagee
Baptisms, 1829-1935; marriages, 1829-1905; marriage
notices, 1953-6; communicants’ roll, 1874-1903;
committee minutes with printed stipend lists, 1859-75. MIC1P/326; CR/3/64
P. 2nd Islandmagee
Baptisms, 1854-1937; marriages, 1848-1933. MIC1P/337
R.C. [see under LARNE]
Could this be him http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/nopcomplete1943.htm
Northumberland Street
from 148 Shankill Road to 1 Falls Road
a John Mann is living at No80 in 1943 No occupation is filled in.
Would a Larne newspaper have reported his obituary?
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I also found an interesting article but with no mention of him there here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~econnolly/oextracts/oeislemageememoriam.html
but it mentions the book "History of Islandmagee" by Dixon Donaldson (1927)
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Hi All,
Thanks so much for your help.
I have spoken to the person i am helping and she is not sure if he was born in Ireland.
Family have said that his fathers name was Jack and he had brothers Jimmy and Joseph.
Might have to leave this one until i can find a marriage for the couple.
The address looks interesting in 1943 as there is a J Mullan further up the road. Maybe Alice's father.
Cheers Sue
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Just been on the Northern Ireland Site and realised i can only get marriages up to 1939. so will have to wait a bit
For marriages post 1939, you have to either go into GRONI in Belfast and look them up there, or contact them, and they will search for you (for a fee).
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Just in case anyone is researching the Joseph Mann on The Irish Mariners list
http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?17313
http://www.londonremembers.com/memorials/mercantile-marine-memorial-ww2/inscriptions/25632
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Don't know if it helps but I sailed with brothers John(ny) and Dave(y) Mann from Islandmagee in the late 60s , early 70s.
They were both A.Bs . working for Shell Tankers .
I heard John was later lost at sea in the Bay of Biscay .
Baird
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Hi There - My Dad was Thomas Mann , Betty (Elizabeth Was Him Mum and Father Thomas)
The four brothers were Thomas Oldest , Jimmy, David then John who drowned at sea. Did you work with my dad too ?
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Hello Rose, I never sailed with your Dad but I sailed with John and David. Am I correct in my memory that they never sailed together in case they had a brotherly fall out?
Also a Captain from the same area called Campbell Kerr.
Baird
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Hi Baird , if you can email me on (*) I can message you back . Isn’t the internet fantastic .. I would love to hear a little about my uncles , my dad sadly passed away 3 years ago of cancer .
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hello Rose if you send a reply to this I can send you a message and you can re send your e mail address.
Cheers,
Baird
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Ahh ok I see as it’s my third post I’m an honored member :)
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Here is the marriage of John and Alice Mann, Belfast.
25 December 1933 - John Mann, age 36, Batchelor, Sailor, from 26 Norton Street, Belfast married Mary Alice McMullan, age 21, Spinster, Housewife, from 26 Norton Street, Belfast. John's father was John Mann, Sailor, and Mary's father was John McMullan, Carter. Married in St. Malachy Roman Catholic Church, Belfast. James Dean, Priest. Witnesses were John McMullan and Ellen McVicker. John Francis Mann was born on 27 August 1897 in 44 Kingswood Street, Belfast. His mother was Maggie Hagan.
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John Francis Mann was born on 27 August 1897 in 44 Kingswood Street, Belfast. His mother was Maggie Hagan.
Link to birth record-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02120/1806364.pdf
John Mann married Margaret Hagan in St Peters RC Church, Belfast in 1882.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10980/8014335.pdf
1911 census
Residents of a house 34 in Avondale Street (Pottinger (part of), Down)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Avondale_Street/227389/