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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Monmouthshire => Topic started by: sirsimon on Sunday 28 September 14 16:51 BST (UK)
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Hello
William H Lacey was born in 1873, this is him and his family in 1881, 1891 and 1901.
1881
Head John Sheppard 27
Wife Mary Sheppard 28
Son Henry Sheppard 6
Daughter Reziah Sheppard 4
Daughter Elizabeth Sheppard 2
Daughter Margrate Sheppard 2 months
Son-in-Law Sarah Lacey 30
Nephew William H Lacey 8
Niece Rosa Lacey 4
1891
Wife Sarah Farthing 39
Step-son William H Lacey 18
Step-daughter Rosa Lacey 14
Daughter Emily A Farthing 2
Daughter Eliz J Farthing 1 month
Nephew William Farthing 19
Lodger William Watts 25
1901
Head William Lacey 28
Wife Charlotte Lacey 25
Daughter Emily A Lacey 2
Daughter Annie Lacey 8 months
Concerning the 1881 and 1891 census, I am confused concerning the relationships. Both censuses do not show any parents for William, but do mention a Sarah Farthing, a step mother and a John Sheppard, an uncle, which I assume means William and Rosa's mother was a sister of his.
Looking at the marriages, I cannot find a marriage between a Sarah Farthing and a man with the surname Lacey.
I am trying to look for William and Rosa's parents, any help in clearing up this confusion will be appreciated
my thanks
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In 1881 Sarah Lacey is transcribed as the daughter-in-law (but image shows s-in-law - as JJen pointed out later) and a widow. Free BMD show a marriage in December 1881 of Sarah Lacey to Uriah Farthing - Pontypool - 11a 197.
William and Rosa Lacey are the children of Sarah Lacey.
Sandra
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Looking at the image for the 1881 Sarah is recorded as S in law, therefore possibly sister in law.
JJ
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Looking at the image for the 1881 Sarah is recorded as S in law, therefore possibly sister in law.
JJ
Yes, it does look like that on the image. Anc have transcribed her as daughter-in-law. ::)
Sandra
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1891 - Emily A Hall is Emily Farthing on the image - Probably Emily Farthing - Bedwelty - 11a 65 - Dec 1888.
Eley is also marked as Eley Fathing on the image.
Sandra
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Eley Hall is probably Eliz Jane Farthing born June 1891 - Bedwelty - 11a 78
Had to read but mis-transcribed on anc.
Sarah Hall is Sarah Farthing on the image. She is in a different household to Charles Hall.
Sarah resides 18 Club Row. Charles Hall resides 17 Club Row ::)
You need to check those images Simon. Mistakes are made. You could have worked it all out for yourself had you done that.
Sandra
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Here is Sarah and Emily Farthing with Uriah on the 1901 census
Uriah Farthing 57
Sarah Farthing 49
Emily A Farthing 12
Hugh Farthing 8
RG13 Piece 4934 Folio 117 Page 9.
Hugh Farthing - Bedwelty - Q3 1892 - 11a 84
Sandra
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thank you
sorry I didn't correct the mistranslations. I knew there were some before I posted, but forgot to change the census as they should have been
So William's parents were Uriah Farthing and Sarah Lacey, but they adopted their mother's surname?
I checked free bmd and couldn't find a death for Uriah
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Quote:- sorry I didn't correct the mistranslations. I knew there were some before I posted, but forgot to change the census as they should have been
That is absolutely awful - >:( >:( >:(
Try Uriah Farthing - aged 88 years - Bridgend - 11 a 894 - he seems to fit
Sandra
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William Lacey and Rose Lacey were born before the marriage of Sarah Lacey and Uriah Farthing.
Don't forget the 1881 census says Sarah is widowed - so there was another marriage. Perhaps birth cert of William H Lacey will through more light on who his father was.
Sandra
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thanks again and my apologies
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There is a marriage of a John Lacey -
q4 1870, Pontypool, Vol11a Page 231
On the same page is a Sarah Harvey
Death of John Lacey age 30 -
q2 1877, Bedwelty, Vol11a Page 59
So possibly these are the parents of William and Rosa, however to confirm who the parents are you would need to purchase a birth cert.
JJ
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I will once I get some funds. I will let you know what it says
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Got the birth certificate of Rosa Lacey today, William's sister, Jen is right, their parents are John Lacey and Sarah Harvey :)
From this we now know that Sarah remarried Uriah