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Title: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 15:06 BST (UK)
Hello

Looking for a John Gillan and anybody else living with him at 15 Grace Street, Partick - not sure of street - but definately Partick

Many thanks

Jackie
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 17:21 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Can you give any details of his birthyear & birthplace as the 1881 has a couple of entries for Partick?

Was he married in 1881 - what was his wife/childrens names?

Do you know his occupation?
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 17:59 BST (UK)
Hi

Sorry, I only have his name. I think he was the tenant so he must have been an adult. Any info about any of them would be great
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 18:01 BST (UK)
Hi

None of the entries are at the address you give as people moved around a lot in those days.

What document did you get his name and address from and what date is on that document
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 18:11 BST (UK)
Hi

Got it from the 1875 rates records. He was listed as tenant. there may have been a Jane Gillan or a Margaret Gillan or Brown living there too. But this only a guess
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 18:19 BST (UK)
He had probably moved by 1881.  Is he an ancestor?  Are you descended from one of his children as we can use that info to try and find the right entry.

Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 18:29 BST (UK)
Hi

Sorry not sure yet. Can you see any John Gillan's in Partick?
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 18:53 BST (UK)
Yes - as mentioned in my first reply but none are at the address you gave so we have no way of knowing which is the right John Gillan.

We also have to allow for mis-transcriptions of his surname so need more info to narrow it down

If you can supply any further info to help narrow it down I will look again.  Do you know for certain that he was still in Partick in 1881 and not another part of Scotland?

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Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi

A margaret brown married in nov 1881 in Partick. On the wedding certificate she gave her address as 15 Grace street and her parents as John Brown and Jane Gillan. I think Jane was related to the said John Gillan.
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 19:16 BST (UK)
Just a thought maybe he is in 1871 census at Grace street
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 20:08 BST (UK)
How old was Margaret when she married?  Does the marriage cert show Jane as Brown but with a maiden surname Gillan?
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 20:13 BST (UK)
I think you are approaching this from the wrong angle.  Instead of trying to find a John Gillan who you know nothing about except his address - you should be researching Jane Brown nee Gillan to see if she had a brother John or was living in Grace St at any time prior to her marriage

Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 20:24 BST (UK)
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Just a thought maybe he is in 1871 census at Grace street

Only 3 entries for John Gill*n in Partick -  none at that address
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 20:30 BST (UK)
Age 21 and yes ms Gillan
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 October 14 20:49 BST (UK)
Was Margarets father a powerloom tenter?

1871 for 108 Rutherglen Rd Govan - all children b Glasgow

John Brown 38 b Govan
Jane  34 b West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Margaret    10
George  5
John  3
Jane  9 Months
Glasgow Govan ED 16 Page 16 Line 18   
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: handlooms on Thursday 02 October 14 20:57 BST (UK)
Sorry dont know. Thank you for helping.
Title: Re: 1881 census partick, glasgow, scotland
Post by: Bethgillan on Friday 14 April 17 05:36 BST (UK)
Not sure if you are still looking for John Gillan but I am related to him. Beth Gillan