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Title: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: christineowen on Monday 06 October 14 00:24 BST (UK)
Hi I am trying to find out any information on persons who lived at 39 Approach road, Bethnal Green between 1935-1936.  I know there was a Phillip Farby and Ray Farby, who lived at that address from 1935 to 1938.  Also in 1936 there also lived there Arthur Frederick Haydon and Louisa Ivy Haydon.  If you are a relative of these or know any think please reply.
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: cath151 on Tuesday 07 October 14 17:54 BST (UK)
Hi,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Not sure what you are looking for but electoral roles for the period give the above names including Katie Jenkins in 1936. Other surnames appearing to live there in that time period variously with people you have already mentioned are Bennett, Goodbody, Durham.
Perhaps someone might know more about whom you are looking for, if we can help in anyway just ask,
Cathy :)
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: christineowen on Tuesday 07 October 14 22:35 BST (UK)
Hi Cathy,
Thanks for your reply, Yes I have the other names you mentioned, but they lived at that address
In 1935, 1937 and 1938.  The year 1936 I mentioned the Farby was because they were there from 1936 - 1938.  My grandmother Katie Jenkins was in the house in 1936.  On the 18th April 1936 she give birth to a son (my father) at 214a Cambridge hospital according to his birth certificate, then lived at 39 approach road. She returned to Wales 6 months later but never told anyone who the father was.  Obviously she is dead now and probably was father is also dead
My father  is now 78 and it would give him satisfaction
If he only new who is father was.  Probably these names of people I am mentioning are also dead, but I hoping they would have living relatives who might know something to lead us in the right direction. Katie Jenkins worked as a kitchen maid full name Irene Katie Jenkins but known as Katie, for Glamorgan in South Wales.

Name of living person removed in accordance with RootsChat policy.
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 07 October 14 22:43 BST (UK)
Hi Christine and welcome to Rootschat....sorry....but it's against Rootschat policy to name living people on here.
Carol
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: california dreamin on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:12 BST (UK)
Hi Christine
I think your chances of tracing via the Electorals rolls will be slim (in this case) if I were you I would look into your Dad having a DNA test (try googling familytree dna).  These test are not cheap but will give him a 'profile' and also show family names that share the same DNA.  It is a very fascinating area and I think may give him some comfort.

Kind regards
CD
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: MargP on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:29 BST (UK)
Hi

The place where she lived in Bethnal Green, may have been a place, where unmarried women went to have there babies, and the father, may have been from where she originally lived.

Margp
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: christineowen on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:54 BST (UK)
She lived in Bethnal Green from when she was 14 so the father would have been from around there.
At that time you were not put on an electrol registar until the age of 22 so I don't where she lived
The first record with her name on it is 1936 in approach Road.

Thanks I will look into The DNA
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: MargP on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:59 BST (UK)
She lived in Bethnal Green from when she was 14 so the father would have been from around there.
At that time you were not put on an electrol registar until the age of 22 so I don't where she lived
The first record with her name on it is 1936 in approach Road.

Thanks I will look into The DNA
I would not discount anything, she may have made visits back home over the years.
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: cath151 on Wednesday 08 October 14 07:49 BST (UK)
I expect you have probably seen the family trees online?, it might be worth contacting members. Philip Farby(Farbey) looks to have married Rachael Goldstein in 1930, though they have both passed away there may be family members still living.
Cathy
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: [Ray] on Wednesday 08 October 14 07:51 BST (UK)
Hi

Are you saying that from age 14 (born 1913 so 1927?) to 1936 she lived exclusively in Bethnal Green?

The reason I ask is that you used the phrase "returned to Wales".


Ray




Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 08 October 14 08:06 BST (UK)
Ray Farby's index letters on the ER show that she is a married woman, so Ray is likely to be short for Rachael nee Goldstein (see the marriage found earlier).  "Dw" means that she has a voting qualification through her husband's occupation. "Rw" (which also applies to Katie in 1936) is a woman's qualification by residence.

FreeBMD shows five Farby/Goldstein births registered in east and north London 1930-1943.
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: christineowen on Wednesday 08 October 14 10:35 BST (UK)
Hi Yes she went to Bethnal green at the age of 14 (in 1927) then returned to Wales in 1936 winen the babY was 6months old.  She went with her sister Jenette Jenkins who also worked there but I
don't know where.  Has I said Katie worked as a kitchen maid and apparently the people she worked for own a clothing factory.

Thanks for the I for on The Farby's nee Goldstein
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: [Ray] on Wednesday 08 October 14 14:30 BST (UK)
Hi

Was Jenette older?

Ray
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: christineowen on Wednesday 08 October 14 17:53 BST (UK)
Hi

No Jenette was younger, but not sure of her age, again this is why I haven't been able to find her on
er.
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: christineowen on Sunday 12 October 14 02:33 BST (UK)
Hi. Me again.  Well I am having no luck.  I know it's so alon ago and a big ask but there must be somebody out here whos will know something.  My grandmother would have been carry this child while worki g at 39 Approach  rd, Bethnal Green, then went to 214 Cambridge road hospital to have , the. Back to Approach road with a baby boy and stayed there for 6months

If anyone know of Phillip and Ray Farby (nee Goldstein) who lived at that address from 1935-to 1938
And have any information on them  like children's etc or anybody to might know something about a mother returning with a baby. Please please get in touch.  I would really like to know who my grandfather was and what happen in is life, possible aunts, uncle and cousins we have never know about.
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: christineowen on Monday 03 November 14 00:45 GMT (UK)
Anyone out there had grandparents with the names of Phillip and Ray Farby who lived in the Bethnal Green area between 1932-1938
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: MargP on Monday 03 November 14 09:14 GMT (UK)
Hi

It may be better to, either, start a new topic, with there names in the title, or amend the title on this, to include there names

Margp
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: kirsty.foreman on Wednesday 07 August 19 10:44 BST (UK)
Hi I am trying to find out any information on persons who lived at 39 Approach road, Bethnal Green between 1935-1936.  I know there was a Phillip Farby and Ray Farby, who lived at that address from 1935 to 1938.  Also in 1936 there also lived there Arthur Frederick Haydon and Louisa Ivy Haydon.  If you are a relative of these or know any think please reply.
hi there yesterday I got a email from Natalie Owen wich I did reply to.
My great granddad George Herbert walker was a illegitimate child of Emily Walker he was born in 27 and a half meriden road Birmingham in 1886 he died in the middlesex area march 3  1951 I don't no if there is a link there considering George Herbert walker is a illegitimate child.
But if I give you a list of names I hope this might help.
I'm going to start with my dad's side of the family.
My great granddad was Robert Edward foreman born March 2 1905 he was born in Marylebone, London he died in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England February 1982 he was married to my great nan Lydia ingarfield they had 3 children my grand Robert Edward foreman.
Now I'm going over to my dad's mums side of the family.
George ridge hamerton he was born in London October 26 1901 he had 2 children from he's previous marriage to  Mary a Doyle.
There children was called George hamerton born 1923 he's sister was Joan burrows born hamerton she was born in bermondsey, Surrey in 1925.

George ridge hamerton married my great nan Florence gilham
There children was called
My nan Renna voilet hamerton she  married my grandad Robert Edward foreman
Her brother was called Ron hamerton but I think Ron was just a nick name and he died before my great nan died as I never met him but I did met hes wife Ann hamerton.
The youngest sibling is della Marshall born hamerton she is still very much with us I have asked her about the email I got sent yesterday and she knows nothing about the family.

Now over to my mums dad side of the family.
William Hambridge born in 1883 in Birmingham Warwickshire he married Sarah ann Thompson. William hambridge died in Ealing August 28th 1964.
William hambridge and Sarah Ann Thompson had a few children and one of them was my grandad Joseph Samuel hambridge born 20th April 1915 who was born in Wharf braunston. My grandad died in brentford July 17th 1992.
Now over to my mums mum side of the family.
My great granddad was George Herbert walker was a illegitimate child of Emily Walker as I have already given details above but what I can tell you is he married he married Ada Byfield.
They had a 7 children 2 of them I never knew existed one of there children was my nan hannah walker who married my grandad Joseph Samuel hambridg.

But what I can tell you is my mums side of the family was Barge men and coal miner as that's what they did for a living from Birmingham to Brentford as my mum side of the family traveled up and down the canal.

So my suggestion is go on what ever website you did your dna on put the surnames above in the search bar and see what happens cause I would like to know myself how close of cousins we are as I'm on myHeritage and 23andme health.

I hope this helps.
Kind regards Mrs kirsty Laghaney
Title: Re: Late grandmother Irene Katie Jenkins know as Katie age 22 in 1936
Post by: CarolA3 on Wednesday 07 August 19 11:48 BST (UK)
This thread might help to explain why Kirsty has posted here:  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816834.0

Carol