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Title: Crackpot Hall
Post by: watney on Monday 06 October 14 09:23 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out who were the freeholders of Crackpot Hall, Swaledale in the 1700-1800's. I would be most grateful for any help as I don't know where to find any information.

Crossing my fingers, kind regards, Brenda
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: miriamkinga on Monday 06 October 14 09:48 BST (UK)
There's a will on the National Archives site for a Robert Raw of Crackpot Hall proved at Chester 28/10/1807.
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 06 October 14 10:17 BST (UK)
Google "The argument of alexander wedderburn"

Select google books "books.google.co.uk.books...."

use the search box to check for "crackpot hall"
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: watney on Monday 06 October 14 20:19 BST (UK)
Many thanks to you kind people that have answered my plea for help...........Brenda
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 07 October 14 19:12 BST (UK)
The Poll for the County of York, begun at the Castle of York, on Wednesday Thirteenth of January, One Thousand Seven Hundred and Forty One

Freeholder's Name, Foster John; Where Freeholds Lye, Crackpot; Places of Abode, Crackpot   
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: watney on Tuesday 07 October 14 22:24 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the latest information, may I now ask if anyone knows any information regarding the Garth family of Crackpot, they seem to be quite well off, I would love to find out more about them as they are my direct ancestors.............Brenda
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 08 October 14 09:58 BST (UK)
Baptisms for children of John Garth at Crackpot here :-

http://archive.org/stream/publicationsyor00socigoog/publicationsyor00socigoog_djvu.txt
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 08 October 14 10:42 BST (UK)
Ruth Garth of Crackpot is mentioned here: -

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-8wHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA489&lpg=PA489&dq=garth%2Bcrackpot%2Bhall&source=bl&ots=dcsWC-pdrq&sig=FFj5UQ8gzzJ2vUoXhM3fvcBNF54&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vwY1VODXNPK1sQSFvYDYBw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=garth%2Bcrackpot%2Bhall&f=false

(sorry about the long link)
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: watney on Wednesday 08 October 14 19:00 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for all the help and information you have sent me I'm very grateful, you're all stars.

Best wishes
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: BushInn1746 on Sunday 23 October 16 19:27 BST (UK)
My family Hood (of Yorkshire origin - Selby 200 yrs ago) have in the past, used the word 'Crackpot' quite often as a type of exclamation.

Never heard it used outside the family, is this a Yorkshire saying?

Or is it a very rare saying in Yorkshire, like it is here in the South?

If used in Yorkshire, any particular region / Riding, please?

Thanks Mark
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: Goughy on Sunday 23 October 16 20:13 BST (UK)
It's a widely (and frequent) used saying around this part of Yorkshire
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: BushInn1746 on Monday 24 October 16 19:30 BST (UK)
Thanks Goughy.
Regards Mark
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: LJR1408 on Thursday 21 December 17 17:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Brenda,
The Robert Raw who is mentioned in the thread was my great great great grandfather and he died at Crackpot Hall in a mining accident on 7 April 1803. From what I gather his widow, Susannah, and the family remained at Crackpot Hall until 1818 when Susannah his wife died. Her will gives her address as Crackpot Hall.
Robert and Susannah's son, Thomas, continued to have links with Crackpot Hall as Thomas's death certificate in 1840 gives his place of death as Crackpot Hall and that he was a farmer.
I don't know whether you have a copy but a friend gave me a copy of 'A Dales Heritage' by Marie Hartley and Joan Ingleby, as she was aware of my family link with Crackpot Hall. Chapter 7 - called Yeoman Farmers concerns the Garth Family of Crackpot. Of interest is the fact that it refers to the existence of six family journals. It also says that the diaries were in the possession of a Margaret Frances Garth (she died in 1970 and the book says she was the last Garth in Swaledale).
Best wishes,
Lewis.

Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 21 December 17 18:41 GMT (UK)
I heard a programme about Crackpot Hall on BBC Radio 4, may have been earlier this year. Sorry I don't know the title. May have been presented by Yorkshire poet, Simon Armitage, but I may have remembered that wrong.
My dad, lived all his life in Lancs, called people crackpots. (Better than modern "crackheads".)
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: Roobarb on Thursday 21 December 17 20:23 GMT (UK)
Born and bred in North Yorkshire, 'crackpot' was commonly used in my family.  :)
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: Roobarb on Thursday 21 December 17 20:27 GMT (UK)
Going off topic a little, I remember when satnavs started to be in common usage but there were a number of problems, including large lorries being erroneously directed through steep and potentially hazardous roads in Crackpot.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1514877/Crackpot-route-for-confused-sat-nav-drivers.html

 :o
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: watney on Thursday 21 December 17 20:48 GMT (UK)
Hello Lewis, thanks for the info, one of my Garth family married a Ruth Raw in Grinton 1717
Title: Re: Crackpot Hall
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 21 December 17 23:34 GMT (UK)
The radio programme about Crackpot Hall is "Alice at Crackpot Hall" and was broadcast in "Between the Ears" series on BBC Radio 3 (not Radio 4 as I said before) on 4th Feb. 2017. The presenter was writer David Almond, not Simon Armitage. So I remembered 1 of 3 bits of info about it correctly.
It's still available on BBC Radio IPlayer. A photo of the ruins accompany programme information. "...David Almond investigates the story of a wild child who was said to roam the Yorkshire Dales near Crackpot Hall in the 1930s.......Crackpot Hall is an ancient farmhouse near the Village of Keld....it has been a hunting lodge, office for the local lead-mining industry and a family farm..."