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Title: Falsified info?
Post by: lalkav on Wednesday 08 October 14 19:53 BST (UK)
On my husbands grandfathers birth cert in Scotland his parents have stated that they were married in 1896 in Maid Street Chapel in Dublin. The child was given his fathers surname but then there is a corrected entry and the child is given his mothers surname. I'm wondering if the parents weren't married at all. Does anyone know if Maid Street Chapel existed? Thanks.
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Sonas on Wednesday 08 October 14 20:41 BST (UK)
Wonder if that should be Meath Street.
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: lalkav on Wednesday 08 October 14 21:34 BST (UK)
Was there a Meath Street in Dublin? Was there a Meath Street Chapel?
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 08 October 14 21:38 BST (UK)
It should be easy enough to find the marriage indexed (not as good as getting the actual certificate but will at least show that they did marry).
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

If you have trouble then post their names and maybe someone else will be able to find them.
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: lalkav on Wednesday 08 October 14 21:52 BST (UK)
They were George Jenkins and Bridget Collins. I've just had a quick look and couldn't find anything. Maybe they didn't get married then.
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 16 October 14 09:46 BST (UK)
I also had a quick look and couldn't find a marriage as stated

However on a paid site there is another tree that seems to match these facts
It implies that this is the baptism of Bridget COLLINS (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/94f7660342537)
and that she married George JENKINS on March 3rd 1896 but giving no source

Also that she had a daughter Ethel
Ethel's marriage record in Scotland shows her as Ethel COLLINS formerly JENKINS
and her parentage is descibed as
(F) William JENKINS Brushmaker
(M) Bridget COLLINS afterwards married to William BROGAN Labourer

It could be that William and Bridget divorced or never married!
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Moragh on Thursday 02 March 23 16:04 GMT (UK)
On my husbands grandfathers birth cert in Scotland his parents have stated that they were married in 1896 in Maid Street Chapel in Dublin. The child was given his fathers surname but then there is a corrected entry and the child is given his mothers surname. I'm wondering if the parents weren't married at all. Does anyone know if Maid Street Chapel existed? Thanks.

Hi, I have just joined the site while looking for information on my paternal great grandparents and it looks like my great grandparents George Jenkins and Bridget Collins also state they were married in Maid Street Chapel, Dublin 3rd March 1896.    My grandfather was Michael Jenkins (b.1897) married to Mary Ann McGuire  in 1916 in Greenock and then remarried to my grandmother Catherine Tinney in 1928.

Thanks for reading
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Wexflyer on Friday 03 March 23 06:45 GMT (UK)
As already suggested, Maid St. sounds like a mishearing of Meath St. to me. If Scotland was like Ireland then entries were made by a registrar listening to answers from the informant - the informant did not make the entries directly.

And there is a Meath St. parish
https://www.meathstreetparish.ie/ (https://www.meathstreetparish.ie/)

More on Meath St.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/meath-street-outpost-of-a-disappearing-dublin-1.1967467 (https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/meath-street-outpost-of-a-disappearing-dublin-1.1967467)
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Moragh on Friday 03 March 23 13:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: lalkav on Friday 03 March 23 13:17 GMT (UK)
On my husbands grandfathers birth cert in Scotland his parents have stated that they were married in 1896 in Maid Street Chapel in Dublin. The child was given his fathers surname but then there is a corrected entry and the child is given his mothers surname. I'm wondering if the parents weren't married at all. Does anyone know if Maid Street Chapel existed? Thanks.

Hi, I have just joined the site while looking for information on my paternal great grandparents and it looks like my great grandparents George Jenkins and Bridget Collins also state they were married in Maid Street Chapel, Dublin 3rd March 1896.    My grandfather was Michael Jenkins (b.1897) married to Mary Ann McGuire  in 1916 in Greenock and then remarried to my grandmother Catherine Tinney in 1928.

Thanks for reading


Hi I've messaged you
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Moragh on Friday 03 March 23 13:23 GMT (UK)
Hi

sorry I cant seem to find the mesage.   
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 03 March 23 14:09 GMT (UK)
On my husbands grandfathers birth cert in Scotland his parents have stated that they were married in 1896 in Maid Street Chapel in Dublin. The child was given his fathers surname but then there is a corrected entry and the child is given his mothers surname. I'm wondering if the parents weren't married at all. Does anyone know if Maid Street Chapel existed? Thanks.

Hi, I have just joined the site while looking for information on my paternal great grandparents and it looks like my great grandparents George Jenkins and Bridget Collins also state they were married in Maid Street Chapel, Dublin 3rd March 1896.    My grandfather was Michael Jenkins (b.1897) married to Mary Ann McGuire  in 1916 in Greenock and then remarried to my grandmother Catherine Tinney in 1928.

Thanks for reading


Hi I've messaged you

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Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Moragh on Friday 03 March 23 14:14 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for confirming that, hopefully this is my 3rd so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Sinann on Friday 03 March 23 15:37 GMT (UK)
There are births of twin girls Catherine and Mary Elizabeth to George Jenkins (Wire worker) and Bridget Collins in Lurgan in 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01575/1634888.pdf
I'd normally check the census at this point but it's not working today.
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: lalkav on Friday 03 March 23 16:11 GMT (UK)
There are births of twin girls Catherine and Mary Elizabeth to George Jenkins (Wire worker) and Bridget Collins in Lurgan in 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01575/1634888.pdf
I'd normally check the census at this point but it's not working today.

Yes thanks these are 2 of their daughters. I've found the death for Catherine in 1910 but not Mary.
Title: Re: Falsified info?
Post by: Wexflyer on Friday 03 March 23 18:07 GMT (UK)
A George Jenkins may have married a Nora Collins, June Quarter 1896, in Cardiff, Wales.
(Same page reference no.)
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