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Title: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Thursday 09 October 14 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to trace a William Shaw, of Park Robin ( now Low Park), who may, or may not have married a Catherine Lorimer of Summerhill, Balmaclellan in 1836 at Balmaclellan.  I say may or may not have married as the OPR entry does not say "and were married".  I believe William was the son of William Shaw and Margaret Ireland, and born c1812.  Catherine, born 1816  is the daughter of Edward Lorimer and Catherine Dalziel.  Her sister Sarah Lorimer married a William Shaw, son of Alexander Shaw and Mary Murray.

Catherine and Sarah are my 4x great aunts.

I have tried to find William and Catherine, but cannot seem to find them.

Thanks

Tom
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 October 14 18:21 BST (UK)
Hi Tom

The 1836 ref, is this from an OPR? Could it be the Banns to marriage entry rather than the actual marriage?

Why do you think that William who married Catherine is different to the William who married Sarah, her sister? If Catherine died pre 1841, it may be that William went on to marry her sister and shows with her and young children (and mother in law) in 1851 possibly.

There are three possible entries for a William Shaw with different parents all in Balmaclennan:

William chr. 1804 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYM6-VYF who married Sarah. Likely mother Mary Shaw showing with him in 1841.

William chr. 1811 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYM6-2S4 who you think married (maybe) Catherine.

Willliam chr.1811 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYM6-2S4

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 October 14 18:48 BST (UK)
The three William Shaw marriages (or banns) entries showing on the OPRs, all in Balmaclennan:

William and Catherine 1836 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTR9-96V

William and Sarah 1842 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTR9-9XD

William John and Henrietta https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTR9-962 ....do you know what the names of this William John Shaw's parents were? He shows as born c. 1811 in Balmaclennan in censuses.

Tom, I know you have all of this  ;) - just trying to add a bit of background of info to the posts.

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Thursday 09 October 14 19:13 BST (UK)
Sarah Lorimer married William Shaw of High Park, Balmaclellan. He was born 1805, and the son of Alexander Shaw and Mary Murray.  He died in 1878 at High Park, Sarah in 1893.

There was a William, born 1811 to William Shaw and Margaret Ireland. I believe he died in 1811 as William and Margaret had another son William, born 1812.  In 1841 William and Margaret are at Park Robin, Balmaclellan, along with 3 other children.

The William Shaw that married Henrietta Shaw was the son of John Shaw and Janet Wilson.  He died in 1866 at Craigend, Balmaclellan.  The John must have been added after his birth, I assume.

The OPR entry I have (copy from scotlandspeople) states

Shaw: William Shaw in Park Robin and Catherine Lorimer in Summerhill gave in their names for proclamation. 10th Nov 1836.

I understand there is the possibility either one or both died prior to 1855.  I have not requested anyone to check the MI's for Balmaclellan or Kells.  I know William and Sarah are buried in Kells.

Tom
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 October 14 19:27 BST (UK)

The OPR entry I have (copy from scotlandspeople) states

Shaw: William Shaw in Park Robin and Catherine Lorimer in Summerhill gave in their names for proclamation. 10th Nov 1836.


Thanks Tom for the additional info  :) That certainly reads like a Banns entry in the OPRs rather than the actual marriage entry I would say. Often happens (if you are lucky to find any reference at all to a marriage for a couple) that what you find is actually one of the Banns readings rather than the marriage entry.

You have no reason to think that the marriage did not go ahead really...but no proof either that it did.

I don't know if you have any firm details at this stage to confirm who the William Shaw who married Catherine was. The fact that Catherine's sister, Sarah, also married a William Shaw, whose parents you have confirmed, would make me think that the Williams for both may have been the same man....but how to prove that  :-\ Can't see a death in the OPRs for Catherine so far.

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 09 October 14 19:32 BST (UK)
Hi Tom

I'm sure my 3x grt grandfather mentioned Shaw of Park Robin in his various letters to his brother in Canada.

I'll dig them out and get back to you  :)


Gadget
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 October 14 19:34 BST (UK)
That sounds interesting Gadget! Wait to hear further...

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 October 14 19:43 BST (UK)

The William Shaw that married Henrietta Shaw was the son of John Shaw and Janet Wilson.  He died in 1866 at Craigend, Balmaclellan.  The John must have been added after his birth, I assume.


Some researchers have Henrietta Shaw also as the daughter of Alexander Shaw and Mary Murray (parents of the William who married Sarah Lorimer from what you have).

Her entry https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBYJ-QS7 from 1811. Should be easy enough to confirm, given her likely death year, on SP.

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Thursday 09 October 14 20:34 BST (UK)
I initially thought it was the same William and something happened to Catherine.  However, there is one family of Shaw at Park Robin and another at High Park.  By 1841, at High Park, William, born 1805 is head of house, as is his mother Mary (Murray), which makes me think it is 2 William's.

I then thought, for some reason, perhaps William and Catherine moved out of the area.  I've checked Scotlandspeople, Ancestry and Findmypast but cannot find them.

To add to all this my 2x great grandfather William Shaw, believed born c1810, and believed from Kells is my brick wall along with his wife Margaret Watt.  I have their parents names (from death entries), but cannot find anything, and now have the suspicion that the parents names may be wrong.

This is why I have a keen interest in all this in Balmaclellan.  my 2x great grandfather William had several children which include the names Sarah, Alexander and Robert.  On this weak point, it makes me think there is a connection somewhere, between my 2x great grandfather and the Shaws of Balmaclellan.

They joys of genealogy  :)
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 09 October 14 20:38 BST (UK)
Hi again Tom

I have found the MIs for William and Henrietta in my Kells booklet -will  look in Balmaclellan if you wish.


Gadget
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 October 14 20:38 BST (UK)
The joys of genealogy indeed  ;) It's what keeps us for ever hooked!

Why don't you post what you have on your direct line - William Shaw born c. 1810 maybe Kells, so we can all focus on him.

Gadget, you are so good on this County because of your lines (no pressure, promise  ;)).

Let's have another look around with you Tom and see if we can find anything new for you.

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Thursday 09 October 14 20:44 BST (UK)
Gadget,

Was your 3x great grandfather, William Shaw, who had a brother Robert who died in Canada in 1865?

It's just that you mention his writing to his brother in Canada.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 09 October 14 20:49 BST (UK)
Not sure if Tom has this from Kells MIs:

Wm Shaw, farmer of Park Robin died there 6.5.1845, 72, wife Margaret Ireland 11.8.53, 81, da Mary d. USA 16.9.1826.....s. Jas of Parkrobin 8.4.1827, 19, s David d. Parkrobin 21.9.1827, 23,  s. Wm d. Canada 25.9.1851, 39, s John late in Parkrobin d. New Galloway 28.3.1873, 71, da Barbara d. New Galloway 22.3. 1883, 84.


Gadget

PS - 3X grdf was  James Burgess - br was John Burgess who had a lot in Toronto where the airport is now.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Thursday 09 October 14 20:56 BST (UK)
Re my 2x great grandfather etc.

What I have is.

William Shaw, born c1809 in Kells,  married a Margaret Watt born c1815, at Anwoth, 18 May 1837 at Urr, Kirkcudbrightshire.  William died 29 Nov 1886 at Gatehouse of Fleet.  Parents names given by eldest son are John Shaw and Sarah Sloan.  Margaret died 13 aug 1885 at Gatehouse. Parents names given by another son were John Watt and ? Maxwell.

Chilren's name in order are: John, Sarah, Jessie, William, James, Thomas, Alexander, Maxwell and Robert.  John was born 1837 at Springholm, Urr, Kirkcudbrightshire. Sarah, 1839 at Urr.  Jessie to Thomas, born Anwoth, the rest at Girthon.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Thursday 09 October 14 20:59 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget,

Now I will have to look at Canada.

Anything re the Shaws of Balmaclellan MI's would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 09 October 14 21:10 BST (UK)
Not a lot in the letter - written 1835 but he's talking about events of 1833-35:

Mr  Shaw  of Drumrash* referring all to Park Robens ......   and then something vague about a marriage of 'Shaw' to ?. This letter written 1835.

Will check the Balmaclellan MIs -maybe tomorrow now. Are there any other surnames beside Shaw? Will look at Urr, Girthon, etc. too. 

Sloan seems familiar. I've not looked at this branch for a few years so will have to get back to you when I've dug it all out  :)

Gadget


PS -* Drumrash would be Parton, I think
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Thursday 09 October 14 22:37 BST (UK)
Hi Gadget,

If checking Balmaclellan, I am also interested in Lorimer.  my 4x great uncle, George Lorimer born 1803 at Penpont, married Margaret Lorimer born c1806 at Balmaclellan, at Balmaclellan in 1832.  She and George died at Kirkland, Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire.  Her parents were William Lorimer, born c1768, died 1842 at Walkhill of Holm, and Ann Callander 1763-1840.

Re William Shaw and Catherine Lorimer, the William Shaw who married Sarah Lorimer, had a brother Robert, who died at Brantford, Canada West in 1865.  So I will have a look there.

Thank you Gadget and Monica for all your help and assistance with this.
Greatly appreciated.

Tom
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Friday 10 October 14 12:30 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget, for the info from Kells MI's on the Shaw family from Park Robin.  The only other MI from Kells I have regarding Shaw is one regarding Shaw from High Park, Balmaclellan.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Friday 10 October 14 16:02 BST (UK)
Hi Tom

I've been out most of the day.

What I've found for you so far from Balmaclellan MIs:

imo Edward Lorimer d. St Johns Dalry 28.11. 1846, 74, w. Cath Dalziel d. St john's Dalry 8.12.1858. 82. da Cath d. High Wycombe, Bucks 21.7.1844, 29, s George, farmer Kirkland Dalry, d. 24.1.1876, 73 (wife Margt Lorimer 29.11.1868, 62, s. George d. Kirkland 14.3. 1850, 5 yrs, s. George d. Ryton, near Newcastle on Tyne, 7.7. 1859, 22) 

Only one Shaw but doesn't fit your family.

From the 1792 Balmaclellan census - limited but of some use:

No Shaws at any of the Parkrobin farms (9 in all)

Barnshalloch, Farm 2
Samuel Shaw, 42
Janet Gibson, 30 (prob. his wife - all spouses seemed to be listed by mn)
William Shaw, 10
Samuel Shaw, 6
Ann Smith, 60

Arnmacannie Farm 1
John Shaw, 49
Janet haining, 35
David Shaw, 22
Barbara Shaw, 20
William Shaw, 18
James Shaw, 16
Mary Shaw, 14
John Shaw, 12
Margaret Shaw, 2

There are quite a few other MI booklets and names for me to check up on - will get back.


Gadget
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Friday 10 October 14 16:34 BST (UK)
I did a check of High Wycombe in 1841

At Chipping Wycombe, found

William Shaw, born Scotland, draper
Catherine Shaw, born, Scotland
Catherine born 1839, Buckinghamshire
Margaret, born 1840.

Checked FreeBMD
Sarah Shaw born 1841
Edward Shaw, born 1844  All at Wycombe

Catherine may have died in childbirth with Edward.

Looks like my lot :-)
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 10 October 14 16:36 BST (UK)
Success  ;D That certainly looks like them, further aided by the name of the second born daughter, Margaret.

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Friday 10 October 14 16:48 BST (UK)
According to Freebmd, a Catherine Shaw died September quarter 1845 at Wycombe.

Now to trace William and children to Canada.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Friday 10 October 14 16:49 BST (UK)
Some more :

Nothing in Girthon (inc Gatehouse) or Anwoth

Some more Shaws in Kells:

Alex Shaw d. High park 14.2. 1913, 68, w. Janet Tait 1.3.1923, 66, da. Mary Craik 6.10.1880, 5m, s.

Joseph Tait, fell in action near Arras 16.4.1917, 26, int. British Cem Hanninal (?), s. Wm 22.6.1951, 69 (w.

Mathilda Wright 25.10.1991, 98)

Next

Wm Shaw in Gate d. 15.12.1780, 74, w. Barbara Brown 17.11.1767, 56, d. Alex d High park 2.3.1832, 76

(w. mary Murray d. Craigend Highpark 25.8.1859, 73, gda Cath Shaw 26.5.1850, 4 1/2 yrs, s. Robert d.

Brantford Canada West 27.9.186, 64, s Wm of Highpark 19.5.1878, 73 (w. Sarah Lorimer 21.3.1893, 81, s.

John 26.6.1883, 30)

Next

Ebenezer Shaw of Drumrash d there 24.11.1861, 67th y, only s. Ebenezer d. Drumrash 16.8.1862. 37th y

(only da Mary d. Castle Douglas 4.12.1863, 8 y, w. Eliz Ferguson d. Wigtown 28.3.1911, 85)

Adjacent graves - suggests that they were related.


(I'm still searching!)
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 10 October 14 16:55 BST (UK)
You are doing great with the MIs...and filling in all the blanks that way Gadget!

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Friday 10 October 14 16:56 BST (UK)
Kells:

By Jas and Samuel Shaw imo fa Wm Shaw 1722 and mo Elspeth Newal 1731, also Marey McCourtie int. there d. 1729 (h. Jas Shaw) also Isobel Welsh d. 1748 (h. said Jas Shaw). Also Sarah Brown d. 1753, h. David Shaw 29.11.1767 (73 or 75). The said Jas Shaw 29.4.1770, 80, s. Wm d. Glenlee 1772, 49, 2s Jas Shaw or Bardenoch d. 7 1789, 64, 4s Ebenezer of Drumrash d. 24.2.1826, 76, gs Ebenezer Shaw esq of Drumrash (w Eliz Neil 21.3.1826, ,26 lyes on the left side), 3s John d Drumrash 26.7.1826, 85 lyes on the right side (also Margt Gordon d. Drumrash 18.5.1833, 51)

Next

imo Wm Shaw d. Bardennoch 27.12.1832, 54. John Shaw of Bardennoch d. Drumrash 3.4.1864, 82, sis Mary of Drumrash 8.3.1869, 78.

Next

by Wm Shaw d Craigend 24.7.1866, 54 imo da Janet d. Craigend Balmaclellan 8.12.1855, 8d, da Henrietta d. same place 9.6.1864, 14, s Alex Murray, 19.9.1867, 22, w. Henrietta Shaw d. Craigend 21.4.1876, 77, da Mary d Ashburn 17.7.1925, 72 (h.John Mcmillan d. Ashburn, New Galloway 21.11.1918, 73)

Next

by David Shaw d. Lochside Balmaclellan 21.1.1885, 64 imo w Eliz Donaldson d. lochside 27.8.1869, 43, s. John d. inf, s John 7.2.1879, 15, da Herietta d. Lochside 27.1.1913, 60, da Maggie d. Lochside 17.4.1923, 65, da Janet d. Bogle-Knowe Balmaclellan 27.5. 1931, 81

(fancy sharing the typing, Monica  ;D  )


Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Friday 10 October 14 16:59 BST (UK)
Think I've corrected the spacing (and spelling) now - was typing into Notepad and it gets the format wrong sometimes!

Will take a break now while Tom digests this!
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Friday 10 October 14 17:06 BST (UK)
Some piccies - not sure if you've visited:

Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 10 October 14 17:26 BST (UK)
Wow, Gadget...typing and gorgeous piccies! Full set  ;D

Re Canada and this line of Shaws... struggling so far to see the shipping manifest details for the family. Can't see them really in England/Scotland for 1851 so would guess they may have left the UK after Catherine's death in 1845?

Struggling a bit so far to pick them up in potentially Canada as location...expect there is an Edward Shaw, a farmer, who married a Mary Affleck in 1870 in Colchester, Ontario, with parents William and Catherine Shaw, no maiden name for mother. His age reflects an 1844 birth and England (or a couple of times Scotland) is showing for his birth. Maybe his death would help. Ontario have great BMD records normally.

Monica

Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 10 October 14 17:36 BST (UK)
Yep, Edward is certainly William and Catherine's son. He died on 8 Dec 1908. Snip below from his death entry with parents' details:

Added: this is 1881 census for them in Colchester, Ontario. Childrens's names look to be Edward John Wiliam Shaw and Alexander Forest Shaw.  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MVDT-6L4 - wife Mary must have been out and about!


Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Saturday 11 October 14 13:44 BST (UK)
William seems to be in Colchester, Essex County, Canada West (Ontario) in 1851 Census for West Canada.  Occupation given as farmer.

Wife is Agnes, with children, Edward (8 yrs), Barbara (6), Mary (3) and William J (1)

Barbara, Mary and William J. are down as being born in Upper Canada, where ever that is?
There are 4 possible children older than Edward but not mentioned.

So I assume the family emigrated around 1845.

I visited Balmaclellan churchyard last Sunday to have a look round, on the way home from Gatehouse of Fleet.  Where was the only place where it was raining on the way home?  Balmclellan.

I visited Kells churchyard many moons ago when I started all this, to look for Shaw  There were a lot.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 11 October 14 14:25 BST (UK)
Saw that, wondered too about the older children born in England before Edward's birth.

Re Upper Canada and defintion of that for 1851:

The 1851 census includes the areas of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Canada East (Lower Canada, or roughly Quebec), and Canada West (Upper Canada, or roughly Ontario).

Ontario fits well with what we are seeing later. Full text here http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1061

Monica
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 11 October 14 16:53 BST (UK)
Tom, before I shut down my tabs etc:

www.werelate.org/wiki/Family:William_Shaw_and_Agnes_Murray_%281%29

For Barbara:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMJB-2BH
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JFPX-MDK

And for Mary:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMFR-PX7

Monica



Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Monday 20 October 14 11:24 BST (UK)
I now know why everything should be double checked.  Re MI's from Kells, William Shaw died 25.09.1851 in Canada.  Found him in the 1851 Census for Canada, trouble is, it was not taken till 1852.  Also Catherine Lorimer, his wife, according to another inscription, died High Wycombe 21.07.1844.  According to the Indexes, the death was not registered until  Sept qtr.1845.

William's death yet to be found.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Muzzashaw on Tuesday 21 October 14 05:07 BST (UK)
Hi 2 Familys of Balmacllan Shaws in 1792 census Both have Willams Barnshalloch Aged 10
Arnmacannie Farm aged 18 Census gathered by Rev James Thomson
John Shaw  49 was The head of The Ironmacannie Farm Married to A Mary Shaw Mary not in Census
Murray Shaw
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 21 October 14 08:10 BST (UK)
Hi Murray and Welcome  :)

I think there were more than two Shaws on the 1792 Census - I listed them earlier:



From the 1792 Balmaclellan census - limited but of some use:

No Shaws at any of the Parkrobin farms (9 in all)

Barnshalloch, Farm 2
Samuel Shaw, 42
Janet Gibson, 30 (prob. his wife - all spouses seemed to be listed by mn)
William Shaw, 10
Samuel Shaw, 6
Ann Smith, 60

Arnmacannie Farm 1
John Shaw, 49
Janet haining, 35
David Shaw, 22
Barbara Shaw, 20
William Shaw, 18
James Shaw, 16
Mary Shaw, 14
John Shaw, 12
Margaret Shaw, 2


It looks very likely that Mary Shaw died and John married a Janet Haining - big gap between son,John, aged 12 and daughter, Margaret, aged 2.

How are you related?


Gadget
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Muzzashaw on Wednesday 22 October 14 03:51 BST (UK)
Hi I descend from John 12 at Ironmacannie who married Janet Wilson then William Craigend who married Henrietta Shaw from Highpark then Robert MBC Married Margaret Kellock William Alexander
Married Janet Bell My dad Robert born 1898 Married Margaret Keighley in Hastings New Zealand
I have tried to trace the John Shaw Married to Mary Shaw Ironmacannie no luck his dad was a David Shaw following The naming coventions Marys mum Barbara  ???

Murray William Shaw Mangawhai New Zealand
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Wednesday 29 October 14 12:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Murray,

I noticed you mentioned a Margaret Kellock.  Where did she originate from, as I have Kellock from Thornhill area in Dumfreis-shire.

Tom
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: bigt on Wednesday 29 October 14 21:27 GMT (UK)
Murray,

You probably already know this, but the OPR's for Balmaclellan have the death of a David Shaw on 20 March 1800.

Tom
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Muzzashaw on Wednesday 29 October 14 22:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Tom Yes The marriage doco says Morton Thornhill 1869 Margarets mum was Jane Callander
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: doolittle72 on Friday 05 July 19 16:29 BST (UK)
There was indeed an infant named William Shaw died in 1811 in Parkrobin, Balmaclellan.  But,sorry, no Catherine Lorimer in Balmaclellan - there are Lorimers but no Catherine.
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: Gadget on Friday 05 July 19 16:44 BST (UK)
Hi doolittle  :)

I think we covered them all in the first 3-4 pages of this thread.

Gadget
Title: Re: Shaw of Balmaclellan
Post by: doolittle72 on Monday 08 July 19 15:57 BST (UK)
Hi there
There are no Lorimer MI's in Kells, but 23 Shaws.  4 Lorimer MI's in Balmaclellan along with 4 Shaws.
There were also 5 Lorimer deaths ie 1809 Janet age 12, 1819 George age 94 father of Edward, 1819 Isabel 21 dau of William, 1822 Anne 28 dau of William, Walkermill, 1852 Janet age 9 dau of John of Holm Mill.  These deaths are all Balmaclellan.