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Title: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: Peapod21 on Thursday 09 October 14 18:28 BST (UK)
Hello all, this is my first post and I hope you can help.

Attached is a marriage certificate for my Great Grandparents Arthur Lewis and Ella Symons. The marriage took place in Midsomer Norton, but that's as far as my skills have got me.

Could you please help me identify the following:

1. Arthur Lewis middle name? I think it might be Leslie.
2. Arthur Lewis profession? Could this be Carpenter or Engineer?
3. Arthur Lewis Father's first name? It looks like Henry or Harry
4. Arthur Lewis Father's profession?
5. Thomas Symons (Ella Symons Father) profession? I think this says Auxiliary Postman

Many Thanks in advance.

Chris
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 09 October 14 18:31 BST (UK)
Welcome Chris :)

Arthur Leslie Lewis was an engineer, son of Henry, a miner.

I agree with auxiliary postman for the bride's father's occupation.
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: Peapod21 on Thursday 09 October 14 18:33 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for the quick and helpful reply.

Very much appreciated

Chris
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 09 October 14 18:42 BST (UK)
You're welcome  :)  You may already have the following:

Ella Irene Symons born 25 April 1907 was baptised on 9 May 1907 at St James, Devonport.

Parents: Thomas (a blacksmith in the Royal Navy) and Laura, of 64 Admiralty St, Keyham.

The name Woodland is also entered and crossed out in the baptism register, so they may well be the Thomas Symons (28) & Laura Woodland (26) who married at Stoke Damerel on 24 Nov 1906.

Shout if you'd like further details.
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: Peapod21 on Thursday 09 October 14 19:02 BST (UK)
I knew that Ella Symons was born in Devonport, but did not have the Baptism details.

Thomas' connection to the Navy is also new to me, as is Laura's maiden name.

The information you've provided has been a big help.

Again, very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: Peapod21 on Thursday 09 October 14 19:12 BST (UK)
Can you advise what date the Symons family were living at 64 Admiralty Street? I have them living at 74 Hamilton Street on the 1911 Census.
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 09 October 14 20:25 BST (UK)
64 Admiralty St was the address given when Ella was baptised on 9 May 1907.
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 09 October 14 20:33 BST (UK)
Here are the details of the 1906 marriage:

Stoke Damerel Parish Church, 26 November 1906

Thomas Symons 28 bachelor, blacksmith's mate R.N.  Father: George Symons, naval pensioner

Laura Woodland 26 spinster.  Father: Job Woodland, miner.

Witnesses: Nellie Nolan, William Langridge.
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 09 October 14 20:37 BST (UK)
You will have seen that there were only five months between the marriage in November and Ella's birth in April (this isn't all that unusual in family history, as you probably know).
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: Peapod21 on Sunday 12 October 14 15:31 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for the Parish Record information you've provided, it really has been a big help.

The Marriage you referred to between Thomas Symons and Laura Woodland I believe to be the correct people I'm looking for. I've managed to link Laura Woodland to Paulton, Somerset by the birthplace stated on her 1911 Census Record.

I'm struggling with Thomas Symons place of birth. I don't suppose the Parish Records give any indication?
Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 12 October 14 20:22 BST (UK)
Parish baptism records do not give that sort of information about fathers, unfortunately (other than special ones which do not apply here).

I suggest you have a look at a full 1911 entry for this chap, to see what his precise role in the Navy was:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7JQ-X7Z

This may be the same person in 1881, showing father's name as George:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X35F-V3P

Title: Re: Help Deciphering Marriage Certificate Please
Post by: Peapod21 on Sunday 12 October 14 21:23 BST (UK)
You've been a great help again. It is the same chap I was looking for.

Thank you