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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: Irishdolly on Monday 13 October 14 17:30 BST (UK)
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Hello, I am looking for some guidence in tracing my Irish past. I have successfully traced my paternal line back to the 1700's but cannot find any site which lists bmds in Ireland. I have found my maternal great grandparents on the 1911 census in Belfast. I am not sure if I can post the details on here?? But there is William Elliott aged 23 living with his widow mother Ellen, 6 siblings and his neice at 35 Leeson Street.
In 1901 he is at 35 Abercorn Street North with his parents John and Ellen and 8 siblings.
How do I take my research further back? Are the marriages available anywhere online? Or would I need to view parish records the next time I am over there?
Thank you for reading this, ID
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Here's the 1911 census entry you found- Ellen has filled in the details incorrectly (a good thing in this case) and says married 35 years (so c1876), 10 children with 7 living:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Leeson_Street/173803
Looks like same family here with husband John & 9 children:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Abercorn_Street_North/979036
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Thank you Aghadowey, yes they are the records I'd seen. Is there a way of finding and ordering the marriage cert for Williams parents, John and Ellen?
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Haven't found the marriage yet but did find quite a few of the children in birth indexes (all Belfast district) and Ellen's maiden name was McCusker.
1. John Elliott (30 Nov.1876)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFZ-CBD (31 Abercorn St. North was the family residence (not father's birthplace, but John likely born at a different address)
2. Mary J. Elliott (19 Mar.1878)
3. James (c1881)
4. Joseph (c1883)
5. Hugh Elliott (15 May 1885)- likely one of the children died before 1911.
6. William Elliott (20 May 1887)
7. Ellen Elliott (22 Sept.1889)
8. Hugh Elliott (29 Nov.1891)
9. George Elliott (3 Mar.1894)
10. Theresa? Elliott
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Thats so helpful of you, thank you very much! Would I find marriage records in the same place? And deaths?
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Thats so helpful of you, thank you very much! Would I find marriage records in the same place? And deaths?
Hi Irishdolly,
Births, marriage and deaths can be found on www.nidirect.gov.uk That said I could not find the marriage on there.
I did find a marriage on www.ancestryireland.com between John Elliott and Ellen McCusker in 1875, in the County of Antrim. The records are transcriptions, but would tell you the exact date, church, names of witnesses etc. I can tell you that Ellen's father is listed as Joseph.
Good luck,
Kath
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Hi There,
25-Dec-1875 Belfast, County Antrim
John Elliot, Abercorn St. Roman Catholic. No parental information.
Ellen McCusker, Abercorn St. Roman Catholic. Parents Joseph McCusker & Jane Hughes.
Church: ST PETER'S Roman Catholic
Witnesses: John McGuigan & Margaret McCusker.
Cheers,
Holly
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Ellen seems to have a sister named Sarah who was married 07-Oct-1876 in the same church. She married a John McGuigan (witness on Ellen's marriage). Her address is listed as 33 Abercorn St. Parents Joseph and Jane. Witnesses John Elliot & Ann McCusker.
Holly
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The childrens christening sponsors might give you a few names of family to help you trace John and Ellen as they seem to be Elliot and McCusker's.
1. John Elliott - (Date of Birth:23-Nov-1876 Date of Baptism:24-Nov-1876) sponsor - Eliza Jane Elliot
2. Mary J. Elliott - (Date of Birth:22-Jul-1878 Date of Baptism:29-Jul-1878) sponsor - Hannah McCusker
6. William Elliott - (Date of Birth: 20-May-1887 Date of Baptism:22-May-1887) - Sponsors - William & Teresa McCusker. It notes that he married to Mary Begley in St Peter's Belfast on the 4/4/1926.
7. Ellen Elliott - (Date of Birth:21-Sep-1889 Date of Baptism: 23-Sep-1889) Sponsor - Jane McCusker
8. Hugh Elliott (Date of Birth:22-Nov-1891 Date of Baptism:29-Nov-1891) Sponsor John & Teresa McCusker. It notes he married in St Peter's Church Belfast to Maggie McDonald 18/1/1932.
9. George Alexander Elliott (Date of Birth:01-Mar-1894 Date of Baptism: 04-Mar-1894) Sponsor Teresa McCusker. Notes he married in St Peters Belfast on the 25/10/1916. He married Brigid Brennan.
10. Teresa Elliott (Date of Birth:19-Apr-1897 Date of Baptism:20-Apr-1897) Sponsor - Teresa McCusker. Notes she married in St Peters Belfast on the 25/12/1925.
Cheers,
Holly
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Looks like Ellen's brother:
William McCusker married 26-Dec-1886 to Mary Cullins. ST PETER'S Roman Catholic, Belfast. Son of Joseph and Jane. Witnesses John Elliot & Theresa McCusker.
And her sister:
Teresa McCusker married 17-Oct-1897 ST PAUL'S Roman Catholic. Address 31 Merrion Street. Daughter of Joseph McCusker and Jane Hayes. To John Charleton. Witnesses Hugh McCusker & ___ McCrea.
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The McCusker family seem to be from Loughgall, Amagh.
Joseph married Jane Hayes on 18-Jul-1844. Witnesses Edward Hickey & Margaret Rafferty.
Children: (Jane listed as Hays, Haze, Hayse) all in Loughgall, Amagh.
James (Date of Baptism:29-Oct-1844) Sponsors James Hanna & Francis Hickey.
John (Date of Baptism:27-Jun-1846) Sponsors James McCrea & Sarah Rafferty.
Margaret (Date of Baptism: 14-Jun-1848) Sponsors James McShane & Ann Hays.
Mary (Date of Baptism:01-Sep-1850) Sponsors Arthur McCann & Ellen McShane.
Sarah (Date of Baptism:07-Oct-1855) Sponsors Owen Rafferty & Bridget Quinn.
William (as McOsker) (Date of Baptism: 22-Apr-1860) Sponsors Margaret Rafferty.
Teresa (as McOsker) (Date of Baptism: 18-Jan-1863) Sponsors James McCann & Mary Donnelly.
Hugh (as McOsker) (Date of Baptism:06-Jun-1864) Sponsors James McCann & Ann Jane Rafferty.
George Alexander (Date of Baptism:12-Dec-1866) Sponsors John McCusker & Anne Jane Rafferty.
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Great information Holly :-)
I am researching my paternal ancestry, of which many were married, christened at St Peter's, would you be so kind as to let me know where you can find the sponsors. As I think this would be very useful for my research.
Many thanks.
Kath
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This is fantastic Holly and Kath, so much information to work though! I would be grateful to know where the information is from if that's not to much trouble? And how far back do the records go? Thanks again
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Hi,
Just noticed your message, John and Ellen were my great grandparents. Please get in touch if you would like to share information on the family. Regards Pat