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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: sirsimon on Monday 13 October 14 18:55 BST (UK)
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Hello
According to the service record of my ancestor whom served as a constable in the Royal Irish Constabulary, he was recommended by sub inspector Bracken in Mountrath
Whom was he and where was he serving?
His location could determine a location of birth for my ancestor since he would have known him personally
thanks
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Hello
According to the service record of my ancestor whom served as a constable in the Royal Irish Constabulary, he was recommended by sub inspector Bracken in Mountrath
Whom was he and where was he serving?
His location could determine a location of birth for my ancestor since he would have known him personally
thanks
Give us a clue to his name ???
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my ancestor?
William Fitzpatrick, born in Queens County. Service Number 33353
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Why are you creating all these posts about the same person ? It should all be on one thread.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702213.msg5451863
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702207.msg5451856
Sandra
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sorry sandra, thought it would be confusing and disorganized to put it all on one thread. I can request to have them all put onto one if you think it will be better :)
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Think so - keep mentioning that information on one person should always be kept on the same thread. It saves wasting people's time and duplication. ;)
Sandra
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Think so - keep mentioning that information on one person should always be kept on the same thread. It saves wasting people's time and duplication. ;)
Sandra
Is this your relative? Freemans Journal Sat May 23 1863
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Sorry Deebel
William was appointed constable in 1867, four years after the date of the article, so this isn't him
William operated in Cork East Riding until 1868 when he was allocated to Tipperary
His service number was 33353
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Sorry Deebel
William was appointed constable in 1867, four years after the date of the article, so this isn't him
William operated in Cork East Riding until 1868 when he was allocated to Tipperary
His service number was 33353
Was he not a Sub-Constable for a good number of years before being appointed full Constable?
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His rank on his record is constable, just constable, no mention of a sub
He received no promotion
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His rank on his record is constable, just constable, no mention of a sub
He received no promotion
My understanding is that the rank of Constable was equivalent to Sergeant and the rank of Sub-Constable was equivalent to what we understand to be an ordinary PC. So my query is did he serve as a Sub-Constable before being appointed Constable?
(You mention Sub-Inspector Bracken who was a rank below Inspector)
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I don't know if he started as a sub constable. He certainly wasn't just a sub, but it doesn't state any promotions. If he was a constable, it would have given the date of his promotion from sub constable.
Would an obituary in the newspaper mention his rank? It would be a clue
The only death record I can find that would be compatible is William Fitzpatrick, whom died in Cashel in 1933.
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I don't know if he started as a sub constable. He certainly wasn't just a sub, but it doesn't state any promotions. If he was a constable, it would have given the date of his promotion from sub constable.
I'm not an authority on this in any way but was it not the case the Irish Constabulary became the Royal Irish Constabulary in 1867? Did he have previous police service to enable him to start in a promoted rank?
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I don't think he had any previous experience
He joined in 1867 and before that he was farmer, as most constables were before joining
Is it possible that his rank was affected by the system change in 1883?
This link has the ranks of the constabulary
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/royal-irish-constabulary.htm
William's death record?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTV1-BYD