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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: 1banshee on Friday 17 October 14 00:38 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I was just wondering why on the 1911 Scottish Census it has a number 37 next to Ireland if you were born there. Was this something to do with British Colony number or does it refer to the area in Ireland the individual was born in.
Thanks in anticipation,
Michelle :)
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The census was taken for statistical purposes and population studies (not for future family historians!).
As such, once the returns went back to the relevant Government Office, they applied codes to things such as birthplaces and occupations.
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Hi Michelle
It's not a country code as far as I can see on this list, which would be fairly similar in Scotland:
http://www.1911census.co.uk/content/default.aspx?r=24&128
(so far, I don't see a separate coding list for census places in Scotland's People)
I don't think it's an occupation code either (37 is Photographer) . Could you possibly do a small snip of the entry and put it up here.
Gadget
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Hi again
On my link above, the general code for Ireland is 630 and there's a code of 637 for Monaghan - could the character before the 37 be a 6 rather than a (
I was just wondering why on the 1911 Scottish Census it has a number 37 next to Ireland if you were born there. ............ does it refer to the area in Ireland the individual was born in.
Gadget
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Ireland wasn't a British colony, it was part of the United Kingdom, which was one country.
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Thank you to everyone for replying, I'm so sorry but I have been under the weather and not had chance to check replies etc....I will post a snippet of the entry but it is interesting that Monaghan was mentioned as that is the only place that links certain other members of the family to a common place, (possibly), Scotstown I think?! Anyhow, I shall upload the piece and maybe somebody can shed light on things, again, many thanks for the replies :)
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I was just wondering why on the 1911 Scottish Census it has a number 37 next to Ireland if you were born there. Was this something to do with British Colony number or does it refer to the area in Ireland the individual was born in.
In my opinion whatever the number 37 does mean, it won't mean the area of Ireland that the person came from. That information was not normally known to the enumerator, nor of any interest to him.
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Exactly right Elwyn. The answer in a nutshell.
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Ireland wasn't a British colony, it was part of the United Kingdom, which was one country.
In full it would be United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, I expect.
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Hello,
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not Ireland ScouseBoy. Ireland or Eire is not part of the United Kingdom.
Regards, Dod.
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I may be wrong but did Northern Ireland not become so around 1922 i.e. would have come under "Ireland" prior which would have included the 1911 census although still part of the UK?
Annie
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Hello,
My apologies to Scouseboy, you are right Annie. Ireland was part of the UK at the time of the 1911 Census, until partition in 1922.
Teach me to be a smart alec in the small hours of the morning!
Regards, Dod.
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Dod,
I'm sure you were forgetting the era when typing & only thinking of today's position....easily done when reading things & not quite taking it "all" in & I've done it myself in the past...only seeing part of a sentence which captures your thoughts.
Annie
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Was John Doran living in Scotland on 1901 census?
Did he marry in Scotland and do you have his parents names?
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Yes, I have found John Doran on the 1901 and 1891 and have copies of his death and marriage certificate too - his father's name is consistent - another John Doran lol, however his Mother is totally different from the one listed on the marriage certificate despite everything else being the same! Can only presume his father remarried at some point or his wife had trouble remembering details when registering his death!
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What names did he give for his parents on his marriage record?
What year was John born in Ireland?
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Sancti, I think this is a connected post with further details that help for John Doran and his family www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=219717.0
Monica :)
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Thanks Monica
Can't see anything in Irish records with those parents names
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Just been having a look too and nothing jumping out is there :-\
Tough for you, Michelle...
Monica