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I am searching for the death of Charles Frederick Gibbons who disappeared from his home in Loughborough, Leics between the dates 1928-1931. His granddaughter is desperate to know where his life ended. He married Hannah Locker in 1908 and they had 10 children. He was also a member of the Salvation Army. If anyone has any information whatsoever about Charles it would be very much appreciated. Thank you. SuSp
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What was the year of his birth?
That will help look for a death on freebmd
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There's this Death:
Charles Frederick Gibbons b 30 Jul 1895 death registered Jun 1975 age 79 Louth
Volume: 7 Page: 1849
But without a DOB, it's impossible to tell if it's the correct one.
Romilly.
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Have you contacted the Salvation Army to see whether they have any further records of him
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According to his discharge papers, dated 25 Dec 1915, he was 29y4m old, so he's most likely the one b. Q3 1886 in Henley RegDistrict, isn't he*?
STG
* maths not my strong point ;)
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Sorry yes he was born in 1886. Father called Joseph Mother Annie. Need to search SA records yet.
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There's this Death:
Charles Frederick Gibbons b 30 Jul 1895 death registered Jun 1975 age 79 Louth
Volume: 7 Page: 1849
But without a DOB, it's impossible to tell if it's the correct one.
Romilly.
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What is your point MargP?
There are several people of this name on the Search Sites, but the DOB is needed before seeing which one is correct.
I was merely trying to assist.
Romilly.
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What is your point MargP?
There are several people of this name on the Search Sites, but the DOB is needed before seeing which one is correct.
I was merely trying to assist.
Romilly.
Hi, Romilly, I am sorry, I had posted the wrong information, and deleted my post, I was just pointing out that the dates of birth can be wrong on the death certificates,, as this information is only as good as the informants knowledge, then I noticed he was born in 1886 so not the correct death, that will teach me not to jump the gun
Margp x
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1886 is the date he was born but not sure where.
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Do you have him on census with his parents
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The Henley birth reg that STG suggested is living with mother Annie in Clewer, Berkshire 1891 - he is born Nettlebed, Oxfordshire
Annie Gibbons 24 Fawley, Oxfordshire
Charles Fredk Gibbons 4 Nettlebed, Oxfordshire
Gilbert H Gibbons 2 Windsor, Berkshire
Mary M Gibbons 9 mths Windsor, Berkshire
By 1901 Annie has remarried Gilbert Plumbridge but the family are still in the Windsor area
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I believe this is him in 1911 (free index): https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LF-GP4
If his age of 26 is correct then birth would be 1884-1885.
No birthplace info, unfortunately.
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I believe this is him in 1911 (free index): https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LF-GP4
If his age of 26 is correct then birth would be 1884-1885.
No birthplace info, unfortunately.
I wondered about that one being the one in Clewer/Windsor on earlier census
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WW1 records show that Charles Frederick Gibbons, painter, of 1 Union Lane Loughborough, was 29 yrs 4 months old when he was discharged on 25 December 1915 after 15 days' service.
Next of kin was wife Hannah of the same address.
Children: Herbert, Charles, George, Ivy.
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I believe this is him in 1911 (free index): https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LF-GP4
If his age of 26 is correct then birth would be 1884-1885.
No birthplace info, unfortunately.
I wondered about that one being the one in Clewer/Windsor on earlier census
Interesting to see that according to him, (he completed the form) - neither him or his wife knew where they were born! (I've never come across that before).
Romilly.
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I am searching for the death of Charles Frederick Gibbons who disappeared from his home in Loughborough, Leics between the dates 1928-1931.
FreeBMD shows the last Gibbons/Locker child registered in Loughborough in Mar qtr 1932. Did she have a different father from the other children?
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There is a Charles F Gibbons who died in 1940, Kensington. It says D.O.B. 1885
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There is a Charles F Gibbons who died in 1940, Kensington. It says D.O.B. 1885
His wife was Lucy according to probate - he was aka Frederick Charles and lived in Hammersmith but died Kensington
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There is a Charles F Gibbons who died in 1940, Kensington. It says D.O.B. 1885
His wife was Lucy according to probate - he was aka Frederick Charles and lived in Hammersmith but died Kensington
Yes - a civilian casualty of the war:
www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3132206/GIBBONS,%20CHARLES%20FREDERICK
Perhaps worth following up in case there was bigamy etc involved.
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The 1930 electoral register has a Charles Frederick Gibbons at 149 Askew Road, Hammersmith the same address as the probate - the other person in the property is Clara Doggett.
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The 1930 electoral register has a Charles Frederick Gibbons at 149 Askew Road, Hammersmith the same address as the probate - the other person in the property is Clara Doggett.
The two of them were there also 1934 - 1939.
Clara was there as early as 1922 with her husband Charles Doggett, who died in 1924.
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The 1930 electoral register has a Charles Frederick Gibbons at 149 Askew Road, Hammersmith the same address as the probate - the other person in the property is Clara Doggett.
On the probate the money was left to his wife Lucy Gibbons
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The 1930 electoral register has a Charles Frederick Gibbons at 149 Askew Road, Hammersmith the same address as the probate - the other person in the property is Clara Doggett.
On the probate the money was left to his wife Lucy Gibbons
The probate calendar don't tell us who was entitled to the estate on his intestacy, but administration was granted to "Lucy Gibbons, widow". That does not necessarily mean that she was his widow - could be a widowed sister in law for example. (Or his mother, or daughter in law etc).
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There is a Mrs Lucy Gibbons with no other 'Gibbons' showing at 15 Felden Street, SW6 (Hammersmith & Fulham) in 1930 & 1933. (There is also a Lucy Gibbons in Kensington in 1938 ::) )
You are right avm228 I should not have assumed she was his widow :-[
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The 1930 electoral register has a Charles Frederick Gibbons at 149 Askew Road, Hammersmith the same address as the probate - the other person in the property is Clara Doggett.
The two of them were there also 1934 - 1939.
Clara was there as early as 1922 with her husband Charles Doggett, who died in 1924.
She was there on the last census too
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It looks as though Clara was about 16 years older than Charles Frederick Gibbons. It looks likely she died in Salisbury in September 1944 (home address being in Brook Green, Hammersmith).
She may have been entirely unconnected to CFG (other than as neighbours), if the property was divided into flats and they each occupied a flat. The electoral rolls show that they each qualified to vote by residence and occupation.
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Yes the last child registered does have a different Father and she is still alive. I am in touch with her but she knows nothing about Charles F Gibbons whereabouts as he was gone before she was born. Very frustrating. I too have seen the Census where it says NK for where born. Thank you everyone for trying so hard for me.
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Hi,
According to a tree on Ancestry, his brother, Gilbert Henry Gibbons, died in 1962 in Elmo Victoria, I wonder if Charles followed his brother to Australia.
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Gilbert Henry GIBBONS arrived in 1912 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia under the name PLUMBRIDGE:
Emigration:
Gilbert PLUMBRIDGE age 24yrs departed 6 May 1912 London, England on the Kaikoura arrived 19 Jun 1912 Melbourne, Australia.
Marriage:
Gilbert Hy GIBBONS m. Edith GRACE 1915 VICTORIA, Australia #742
Death:
Gilbert Henry GIBBONS age 73yrs Pensioner d. 4 Jan 1962 ELWOOD, Victoria, Australia #670
Father: Joseph GIBBONS
Mother: Unknown HEATH
Wife's Death:
Edith Jane GIBBONS age 62yrs d. 3 Apr 1957 MELBOURNE, Victoria, Australia #4542
Father: Grace Timothy
Mother: Jane PICKERING
Also registered as:
Edith Jane PLUMBRIDGE GIBBONS age 62yrs d. 1957 MELBOURNE, Victoria, Australia #4542
Father: Grace Timothy
Mother: Jane PICKERING
They had one son & it appears he never married.
Birth:
Gilbert John Plumbridge GIBBONS b. 20 Mar 1918 ULVERSTONE, Tasmania, Australia #1856
Father: Gilbert Henry Plumbridge GIBBONS
Mother: Edith Plumbridge GIBBONS nee Grace
WW2 Service:
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=575689
Death:
Gilbert John GIBBONS age 84yrs d. 6 Nov 2002 Cabrini Hospital BRIGHTON, Victoria, Australia.
Death notice:
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/archivenotice/2643025/view?random=1414148834930
Burials:
Gilbert Henry, Edith Jane & Gilbert John GIBBONS are all buried together at the New Cheltenham Cemetery Victoria, Australia.
http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/GILBERTHENRYGIBBONS/6544781
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I cant keep up with all these messages. I think I will have to read through them and digest them further. Thank you for all your effort.