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Title: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Lindascott on Monday 27 October 14 05:03 GMT (UK)
Walsh Walsh born 1833 son of Richard and Mary, married Ann Ainsworth at Holy Trinity now St Peters in Darwen Lancashire in 1858, Ann is the daughter of a John Ainsworth any information on these family's would be very much appreciated, was there children to the marriage .
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 27 October 14 05:47 GMT (UK)
The Lancashire Online Parish Clerks site lists 3 baptism of the couples children

Margaret Ann Walsh Baptism: 27 Mar 1859 Holy Trinity, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
 dau of Walsh Walsh & Ann  Abode: Noble St Occupation: Weaver

James Walsh Baptism: 12 Jul 1863 Holy Trinity, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
  son of Walsh Walsh & Ann  Abode: Peet St Occupation: Weaver

Jane Hollis Walsh  Baptism: 17 Jan 1865 Holy Trinity, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
 dau of Walsh Walsh & Ann  Abode: Peel St  Occupation: Weaver

Kay
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 27 October 14 06:32 GMT (UK)
There may be more children!

1871 census
Class: RG10; Piece: 4187; Folio: 70; Page: 22
29 Hanover Street, Over Darwen, Lancashire

Walsh, Walsh  Head  M  34  Cotton Weaver
Walsh, Mary  Wife  F  35  Cotton Weaver
Walsh, Margret A  Daughter F  12  Cotton Weaver
Walsh, William H  Son  M  10  Cotton Weaver
Walsh, Clara  Daughter  F  1
Riley, Mary  Mother  Widow  F  72            All born Darwen


I did wonder about this Walsh Walsh, because of the age difference? But . . .

Marriage, 6th June 1858  at Holy Trinity, Over Darwen
Walsh Walsh, 21, Bachelor, Weaver, Holly Street
Ann Ainsworth, 19, Spinster, Weaver, <//> Hole

That age puts his birth about 1837?


2nd marriage?
September qtr 1865
Blackburn district     vol 8e, page 484

Walsh, Walsh
+ and on the same page +
Grant, Mary
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 27 October 14 06:49 GMT (UK)
With second wife Mary?  the Lancashire Clerks site lists a number of possible children.  However I can only see Clara and William alive by 1881

John Thomas Walsh Baptism: 30 Aug 1867 St John the Evangelist, Darwen, Lancashire, England
 of Walsh Walsh & Mary
 Abode: Mill St.  Occupation: Weaver

Clara Walsh Baptism: 12 Jul 1869 St John the Evangelist, Darwen, Lancashire
 of Walsh Walsh & Mary
  Abode: Hanover St  Occupation: Weaver
   
Albert Edward Walsh Baptism: 8 Oct 1871 St John the Evangelist, Darwen, Lancashire
of Walsh Walsh & Mary
  Abode: Hanover St Occupation: Weaver

Mary Alice Walsh Baptism: 11 Jan 1874 St John the Evangelist, Darwen, Lancashire
 of Walsh Walsh & Mary
 Abode: Barton Brow  Occupation: Weaver   

Simeon Walsh Baptism: 6 Apr 1875 St John the Evangelist, Darwen, Lancashire
of Walsh Walsh & Mary
 Abode: Carr St Occupation: Weaver

William Walsh Baptism: 10 Sep 1876 St John the Evangelist, Darwen, Lancashire, England
of Walsh Walsh & Mary 
Abode: 31 Hanover St Occupation: Weaver
   
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 27 October 14 07:08 GMT (UK)
It's curious as to why he changes his age? ???

1841 census - age 7
1851 census - age 17
1858 marriage - age 21
1861 census - age 23
1871 census - age 34
1881 census - age 43
1891 census - age 54
1897 death - age 60
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 27 October 14 07:22 GMT (UK)
Walsh Walsh sounds rather creative :)

Found a baptism for William Henry b 1861

William Henry Walsh Baptism: 7 Jul 1861 Holy Trinity, Over Darwen, Lancashire
William Henry Walsh - son of Walsh Walsh & Hannah
Abode: Noble St  Occupation: Weaver
   
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 27 October 14 08:00 GMT (UK)
I wonder if this could be the second wife Mary in 1861 - Living at 163 Bolton Rd, Over Darwin?  In 1891 she lists her birth place as b 1845 Millbridge, Yorkshire.  Maybe Mary was born  pre her parents marriage

Richard Walsh 54 Loomer b Darwen, Lancashire
Elizabeth Walsh    38 NK Yorkshire
Mary Grant Walsh 16 NK Yorkshire
Ann Walsh 14 NK Yorkshire
Elizabeth Walsh    10 NK Yorkshire
Isabella Walsh    5 NK Yorkshire
RG 9 Piece 3108 Folio 79 Page 15

Edit - Possible marriage
Dec Qtr 1856  Elizabeth    Grant/Richard Walsh    Blackburn    8e   454   
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 08:16 GMT (UK)
1861
1 Noble Street
Walsh Walsh  Head 23 born Over Darwen Cotton weaver
Ann Walsh   Wife 21 born Over Darwen Cotton weaver
Margaret A Walsh  Daughter 2 born Over Darwen

RG9/3110/23/3
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 08:18 GMT (UK)
 Possible death?

Ann WALSH in 1865 aged 26 Darwen Blackburn
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 08:26 GMT (UK)
Walsh WALSH and Mary GRANT  in 1865 at  Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Lindascott on Monday 27 October 14 12:24 GMT (UK)
That's great Thank you so much for all the help you have given me, it is very much appreciated
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Lindascott on Monday 27 October 14 12:33 GMT (UK)
I wonder if this could be the second wife Mary in 1861 - Living at 163 Bolton Rd, Over Darwin?  In 1891 she lists her birth place as b 1845 Millbridge, Yorkshire.  Maybe Mary was born  pre her parents marriage

Richard Walsh 54 Loomer b Darwen, Lancashire
Elizabeth Walsh    38 NK Yorkshire
Mary Grant Walsh 16 NK Yorkshire
Ann Walsh 14 NK Yorkshire
Elizabeth Walsh    10 NK Yorkshire
Isabella Walsh    5 NK Yorkshire
RG 9 Piece 3108 Folio 79 Page 15

Edit - Possible marriage
Dec Qtr 1856  Elizabeth    Grant/Richard Walsh    Blackburn    8e   454
Is there any more information on Richard and Elizabeth as i thought Richard married Mary Riley
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 13:40 GMT (UK)
1851
Hills Fold, Darwen
Mary Walsh  Head 50 born Over Darwen married washer woman
Walsh Walsh  Son 17 born Over Darwen Power loom weaver
 Grace Walsh  Daughter 15 born Over Darwen Power loom weaver
 Richard Walsh  9 born Over Darwen
 Peter Walsh  6 born Over Darwen
RG/107/2261/151/40

Next door are an Ainsworth family
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 13:43 GMT (UK)
1841
Clough Cote House, Over Darwen
Richd Walsh  35 farmer
Thos Walsh  38
Jas Walsh  12
Walsh Walsh  7
All born in the county.
107/503/12/11/15
 
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 13:49 GMT (UK)
Peter WALSH in 1845 Darwen Blackburn  mother's maiden name Riley RILEY
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 27 October 14 13:52 GMT (UK)
In 1851 Richard Walsh listed as married but living separately from Mary with son James with Over Darwin

Rickard Walsh    47 Darwin - Farmer
James Walsh    22 Darwin - Weaver

I think Elizabeth was his second "wife"  after his split from Mary - So William Walsh could have married his step sister Mary Grant.
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Lindascott on Monday 27 October 14 13:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much, I know its a lot to ask but is there a father to Richard and are the Ainsworths  next door related
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 14:31 GMT (UK)
Possible

Baptism: 12 Jul 1801 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Richard Walch - Son of Thomas Walch & Betty
Abode: Blackburn
In 1841, Richard is with a possible older brother named Thomas



Baptism: 3 Oct 1804 Lower Chapel Independent, Darwen, Lancashire, England
Richd. Walsh - [Child] of Richd. Walsh & Susanna
Born: 28 Aug
Abode: Darwen
Baptised by: H.W.T.
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 27 October 14 14:35 GMT (UK)
Keep this for future reference

Baptism: 30 Apr 1816 Lower Chapel Independent, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Mary Walsh - Daughter of Thomas Walsh & Betty (formerly Livsey)
Born: 29 Feb 1816
Abode: Jerry Knowles Over Darwen Blackburn
Baptised by: R. Blake
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 27 October 14 15:10 GMT (UK)
By 1871 Richard Walsh is listed as a widower and living by himself and the 3 younger children living with him and Elizabeth in 1861  are now listed as Grant and living at 303 Bolton Road, Over Darwin.  All the sisters were cotton weavers

Ann Grant    23 Leeds, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Grant 20 New Bridge, Yorkshire
Isabella Grant 15 Over Darwin, Lancashire
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Lindascott on Monday 27 October 14 15:46 GMT (UK)
1841
Clough Cote House, Over Darwen
Richd Walsh  35 farmer
Thos Walsh  38
Jas Walsh  12
Walsh Walsh  7
All born in the county.
107/503/12/11/15
Jas Walsh is it James
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Lindascott on Monday 27 October 14 23:17 GMT (UK)
Is Jas Walsh the right name or is it supposed to be James aso is there anything about Richard Walsh's father and mother
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 27 October 14 23:20 GMT (UK)
Jas is a shorthand version of James!

Just like Chas. = Charles, and Jno = John.
Title: Re: Walsh Walsh look up please
Post by: Lindascott on Tuesday 28 October 14 00:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you