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Title: Help in finding a name?
Post by: ClementsM on Tuesday 28 October 14 14:18 GMT (UK)
Hello All,
I am stuck again and need some advice.
I am trying to obtain the name of my grandfather’s brother however I do not know how to obtain this information.
At the time of his birth in 1922 my grandfather was living at the following residence so I presume his brother would have also been living there ;
The Green,Crockenhill,Eynsford,Kent
The only information I do have about my grandfather’s brother was that he was an older brother.
The surname would have been Clements
Can anybody help?
Thanks,
Marcus
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 28 October 14 14:20 GMT (UK)
Do you know their mother's maiden name? If it's not too common then you can check for a birth registration (index) as mother's maiden names will be listed for that period.
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 28 October 14 14:23 GMT (UK)
Was the mother's maiden name Turner?

FreeBMD shows three Clements/Turner births in Dartford district (covered Eynsford) 1917-1922.


www.freebmd.org.uk
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: ClementsM on Tuesday 28 October 14 15:25 GMT (UK)
Hi there,
Yes that is corect.
My grandfathers name was Sydney and i have been told he had an older brother which is the name i am trying to obtain. Thanks
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 28 October 14 15:29 GMT (UK)
You will find the two earlier Clements children with mother's maiden name Turner by searching on FreeBMD (you can search just using the surname and mother's maiden name fields).  The 1917 one is female, the 1919 one is male so may be the one you are looking for.  They may still be alive (unless you know otherwise) so we don't post full names here but have given you the tools you need to find them for yourself.

Hope that works, but do let us know if you have any problems :)
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: ClementsM on Tuesday 28 October 14 15:48 GMT (UK)
Thanks - got the name.

Have been looking on BMD but couldnt be certain what i was looking for but i think the 1919 name could be correct.

Thanks again for the direction.
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: ClementsM on Wednesday 29 October 14 12:40 GMT (UK)
On the subject of the same person
Do you know how I could order a death certificate for him – I understand where to go to order the cert (GRO) however I have no information on the year he died or the location
Any advice?
Thanks,
Marcus
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 29 October 14 12:44 GMT (UK)
You could order the birth certificate to obtain the exact birthdate and full name including middle name - without that I don't know how you're going to be sure you've found the right person's death, unless you know something about his later life (e.g. where he lived) to pinpoint him.  Do you know anything at all about him, where he lived or whether he lived into old age?

There is a George Montague Clements, born 6 Nov 1919, who died Mar 1993 in Surrey North-western registration district, in case he's relevant.
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: ClementsM on Wednesday 29 October 14 13:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this.

No im afraid not - i know nothing apart from that he may have served in the Royal Navy during his lifetime.

Marcus
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: ClementsM on Monday 24 November 14 14:15 GMT (UK)
Good news! and thanks very much for your help
I had ordered the birth certificate for George Montague Clements which arrived over the weekend and this confirms that he is the person that I am looking.
George’s birth cert contains the same birth address / parents’ names of my grandfather’s so this almost certainly confirms he was the brother of my grandfather.
I will be ordering the death certificate per your recommendation in surrey 1993.
The next question I have for you – my main objective with ordering the death cert will be in hope that the name of his wife (if he married) will be on the cert so I can then order the married certificate +birth cert of their children
My ultimate aim is to ascertain whether George Montague Clements had any children + grandchildren
Any advice on how I can achieve obtaining the names of George’s children + Grand children?
Thank you,
Marcus
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: lizdb on Monday 24 November 14 14:24 GMT (UK)
You could also check to see if he left a Will, if so that might provide you with details of any children he had, plus surviving widow if any.
Title: Re: Help in finding a name?
Post by: avm228 on Monday 24 November 14 14:27 GMT (UK)
The death certificate will only show his wife's name if she is the informant of the death.

If you search for marriages of George M Clements on FreeBMD you'll find one in 1948 and one in 1949.  But of course these may be some other George.