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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: Jopeg on Tuesday 04 November 14 13:55 GMT (UK)
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This is my Gt Gt Gt Grandmother born about 1828 in Kirkmahoe Dumfriesshire, dies 1872.
I found from a tree on ancestry that her parents were William Swan and Mary Beck, but I would like to prove it for certain.
She married Andrew Hyslop in Torthorwald,Dumfries in 1849, so it is not her with John and Margaret Swan in 1851 (most people seem to think they were her parents). However I can't find her in 1841, so it is rather difficult.
Any ideas? :o
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If you get a copy of her death certificate that should list her parent's names you will get this at www.scotlandspeople .gov if you have not used this site before it will cost £7.00 for 30 credits a search and certificate will use 6 credits and you can download the image right away ...
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I had forgotten that, if I ever knew it - good value, will have a go.
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Have seen 2 tree's one with parents John Swan and Margaret Dalziel the other William Swan and Mary Beck ...I noticed on the 1851 census her first child is called Mary ? so I would definitely get a copy of her death just to make sure :)
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Death cert has William and Mary as parents.
Her parents are in Kirkmahoe in 1841:
East Woodside, Kirkmahoe
William Swan, 45, ag lab
Mary, 45
James, 9
Jane Ann, 7
All b. Dumfriesshire
Her death record has her as 48, so born circa 1824.
Here's a possible for her - a bit older but could be transcribed wrongly - 19 could be 17 -
Abbey, Holywood, Dumfries
(Household of of Robert Covin Colvin*, a farmer)
Flora Swan, 19, Female Servant, b. Dumfriesshire
* laptop's on it's last legs and the letters don't always register ::)
Gadget
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Thanks a lot Gadget, I hadn't managed to look for the death certificate yet. I couldn't find her in 1841 but that looks like a strong possibility. Flora is in the 1871 with my Great Grandmother as a baby, she died the following year. It looks like she had an interesting brother.
http://www.wkfinetools.com/hUS/edge_SwanJames/history/swanJ-history1.asp
I only found out about the brother today, so wanted to be sure (as you ever can be) about her parents.
Jopeg
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Just wanted to say Flora Swan is the daughter of Mary Beck and William Swan and this has opened up a whole new branch of the tree in the USA.
So thanks for the help.
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Thanks for letting us know good luck with your branch :D :D
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My possible ancestor James Swan had was born in 1746 to a James and Jan(n)et Swan, looking them up it seems that Janet was a Swan before marriage as well as after.
The entry from IGI shows them to be married on 17 February 1743 in Kirkmahoe and gives Janet's father as William Swan.
However on the transcription from Scotland's People there is no father listed, could there be another transcription or is there another explanation.
I would really like it to be William, so quite frustrating!
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Hi
The early marriage entries don't always show parents' names.
I'll have a look around Kirkmahoe records to see if I can find anything.
Gadget
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SP shows a baptism for a Janet Swan, 21 Aug 1720, Kirkmahoe. Father given as Edward Swan. This might not be her but it's a reasonable match.
Do you have the names of James and Janet's children?
Gadget
Added - online trees have this one as marrying a John Johnston, others have her marrying your James!
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I have James born 1746 in Kirkmahoe, I am not sure of any others, but it is definitely the Janet Swan who marred James Swan that I am interested in.
I think I have seen her marrying both, is it possible she was a widow when she married John Johnston?
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Nothing else showing for Jan(n)et and James in Kirkmahoe. problem is that some parishes don't shoe mothers :(
My old CDs don't work with Windows 7 so I can't look anything else up and I don't have any MIs for Kirkmahoe - might be some online.
Gadget