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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: artisann on Thursday 06 November 14 12:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I know Irish records can be difficult to search before certain dates....I have a marriage record dated 30 September 1851 for Marian(Mary) McConvell to John Campbell Strokestown Roscommon Ireland. I was wondering if anyone out there could possibly view any records to see if I can find out where Mary and John were born or if the fathers names are mentioned .
Many thanks in advance
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On familysearch... Mariam Mcconville
Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898
marriage: 30 September 1851 Strokestown, Roscommon, Ireland
spouse: Joannem Campbell
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no other info but might help with searching...
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Thank you hallmark for your reply....I am trying to find out where Mariam and Joannem were born or possibly fathers names....
Thank you again
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Thanks hallmark ....not easy lol :)
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Since the names are given in the Latin form then it's most likely the marriage took place in a Catholic church. Unfortunately, most R.C. marriages for that date do not give as much detail as civil marriage records.
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Hello,
There are no parents given but the witnesses are:
Henrieo McConnell and Marianna McConville
Besides being in Latin, these names will have been transcribed but perhaps Henry should be McConnell and not McConville. :-\
It will be Henry and Mary Anne, I would say.
Regards
Heywood
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Hi aghadowey
Thank you for replying ..I wasn't aware of the Latin names and the fact that marriage most likely had taken place in a RC Church...have learnt something from posting lol....it is also a possibility that the above couple came from the North and got married in Roscommon..that's really all I have to go on in finding where exactly they did come from....thank you again for reading the thread.
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Griffiths Valuation shows a Bernard McConville in Bumlin which is close to Strokestown.
There is also an entry for Campbell so the names are in the area.
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/roscommon/bumlin.php
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Hi Heywood
Many thanks for your update on the above couple and the witnesses ...Just wondering if Mary Anne and the bride could be related ? Mmmmm thanks again for your input...
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Hi Heywood many thanks again for the info on the griffiths valuation Bumlin ..I can see a Peter and a Hanoria Campbell so maybe they are connected....need to do some more digging ...
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Do you have any children's names for Mary and John?
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Hi Again Heywood
Possible children Patrick, AnnamCarmel,Male Campbell,Jane,Jacobum,Bridget,Bernard, John and Elizabeth,date of births range from 1854 - 1872
Thank you for replying
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I thought they had emigrated so didn't search.
Baptisms
Patricium (Patrick) 10 February 1854
Male 17 November 1860
Births with parents John Campbell and Mary McConville
All Rooskey district
Bernard 16 May 1865
Bridget 24 December 1867
John 27 May 1870
Eliza 30 April 1872
Jacobus -James is not that family.
Heywood
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Just seen this one also re Patrick
Kiltrustan, Strokestown
Sponsors
Jeremia Moony and Maria Anna McConville
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Hi aghadowey
Thank you for replying ..I wasn't aware of the Latin names and the fact that marriage most likely had taken place in a RC Church...have learnt something from posting lol....it is also a possibility that the above couple came from the North and got married in Roscommon..that's really all I have to go on in finding where exactly they did come from....thank you again for reading the thread.
That's why I posted originally.. names in Latin.
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Hi Heywood thanks for the infor on the children ..yeh I have most of that already ....it's the parents of John Campbell and Mary McConville that I think I am going to struggle with ...but thanks for all your help ...
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Sorry hallmark I really didn't know why the names were spelled in Latin ..thank you for helping
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As they have a child Bernard, there is a good chance that the Bernard McConville in Griffiths could be her father/ close relative.
However, it would be most difficult to go back a generation.
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Many RC records will be in Latin in that era, a thing to look for in case your research becomes too easy!! :-))
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The Catholic parish of Strokestown was formerly called Kiltrustan, Lissonuffy and Cloonfinlough. It included the civil parishes of Lissonuffy, Kiltrustan, Cloonfinlough and part of Bumlin. There were chapels at Strokestown and Scramogue in Bulmin, and in Kiltrustan.
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Hi again Hallmark...thanks again for all your help and yes a possible that they are related .....no it's not easy going back lol.....but you have to try lol ....
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Hi hallmark thank you for the info on the parishes hopefully can narrow a few things down ....
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e4p/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e4q/
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Hi Hallmark
Thank you so much for the census links as I didn't know Bumlin parish and as to how they were linked I would probably not have made the connection to the family's....once again thank you for all you help ...it's really appreciated
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Hello, I have been researching Campbells from Strokestown. To date I have found no connection between my family & yours. I have been supplied with the following details of the Children of John & Mary: (all births in Rooskey unless stated)
Annam Camel Campbell (sic) b 10/8/1858
Patrick Campbell b 17/11/1860 @ Strokestown Lissonuffy
Bernard Campbell b 16/5/1865
Bridget Theresa Campbell b 24/12/1867 d 1933 @ Massachusetts USA
John Campbell b 27/5/1870 d 5/11/1959 @ Kiltrustan Roscommon
Elizabeth/Eliza Campbell b 30/4/1872 d 24/10/1949 @ Listenmult Roscommon
Jane Campbell -no other details.
There were Campbells in the area on the 1749 Elphin Census so they have been there for some time. The local church records can best be described as shambolic and sadly are incomplete.
Regards
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Hi jcr11
Many thanks for your reply to the post.yes I think we have spoke before...and not sure if it was me that gave you the above information....but thanks again for you input on the Campbell family...maybe somewhere along the line they might be connected..lol...