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Title: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: briann1 on Monday 10 November 14 20:43 GMT (UK)
Can anyone access the 1538-1973 marriages I put Henderson Greenwell birth about 1780 lived in Durham and get a marriage to Mary, no year or Mary's surname. I would like to know what further info is there if someone can help thank you
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 10 November 14 21:17 GMT (UK)
The FULL title of that database on Ancestry is:

England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973

It doesn't claim to be complete! ;D
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: briann1 on Monday 10 November 14 21:22 GMT (UK)
Cheers K,  Alas I was hoping for a little more information
Thank you
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: barryd on Monday 10 November 14 21:48 GMT (UK)
This is a mention of a Henderson Greenwell but only as a father!

This puts your Henderson too old????

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXPX-JBL

Henderson Greenwell has been posted before on RootsChat. Title "Another Greenwell" by briann1
Briann is a ancestor of Mary Greenwell who you should see on my link.
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: msr on Monday 10 November 14 21:52 GMT (UK)
There's a James Greenwell marrying a Mary Farol 14 Aug 1803 in

Marriage Place:    Sunderland, Durham

Could he have changed his name?

Susan
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: briann1 on Monday 10 November 14 21:59 GMT (UK)
The Henderson Greenwell that Barry posted about is the one I was hoping to find the marriage of I guessed at a birth of between 1770 and 1800 and that marriage on the 1538-1973  England marriages popped up. Henderson may have been a middle name as there is no other mention of him apart from his daughters marriage
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: barryd on Monday 10 November 14 22:08 GMT (UK)
I will keep looking.
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: smudwhisk on Monday 10 November 14 22:53 GMT (UK)
The FULL title of that database on Ancestry is:

England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973

It doesn't claim to be complete! ;D

Anything with Select in the title on ancestry is from familysearch so its always worth searching on there if there is any info missing in the entry on ancestry. ;)
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: barryd on Monday 10 November 14 22:59 GMT (UK)
I could not find any reference to "Henderson Greenwell" in familysearch.org, Durham Records Online, Find My Past, My Heritage or ancestry.com except for daughter Mary's father on family search.org.

Stanhope, County Durham and North Carolina, America are places known for giving male last names as (male) children's' first names to honour (male) friends and neighbours. I do not think this applies to Henderson. Probably as has been said before he could a John H, or a James H. or Charles H. and he has just dropped the first name as he liked Henderson. 
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: smudwhisk on Monday 10 November 14 23:40 GMT (UK)
Are you sure its not just the way it gets displayed on ancestry, having pulled the data from familysearch?  It probably refers to Mary his daughter rather than Mary his spouse.  Unfortunately the search of the Select records pulled from familysearch doesn't always work very well and often can appear with missing information in some views but not others?

I tried searching on Henderson's name on ancestry but nothing shows, which doesn't surprise me as there can be anomalies in their search results when someone else searches the same details.  Did the entry you saw show any other information such as film number of page number?  If yes, try comparing with a search against Mary his daughter or her husband to see if its the same reference, because if it is, then it refers to her marriage and not his.
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 11 November 14 07:49 GMT (UK)
I think it's actually an error in transcription by Ancestry!

What I am seeing is:
Name:     Henderson Greenwell
Gender:   Male
Child:      Mary Greenwell

Although, if I hover the mouse over "View Record" I see:
Name:     Henderson Greenwell
Gender:   Male
Household Members Names:
     Henderson Greenwell
     Mary Greenwell
     James Drummond
     James Drummond


My guess is that it's a marriage of Mary Greenwell to James Drummond; fathers James Drummond and Henderson Greenwell.
Title: Re: England marriages 1538-1973
Post by: briann1 on Tuesday 11 November 14 09:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks All, one of my many questions still unanswered but I will persevere.