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Title: looking for a birth
Post by: perth tiger on Tuesday 18 November 14 21:03 GMT (UK)
hi
i am looking for the birth of margaret appleby scott.
according to her marriage cert she was 31 by the 19/11/1932.
her daughter thinks she was from the newcastle area.
her father was joseph scott a rivetter

cheers :) :)
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 18 November 14 21:35 GMT (UK)
Therre are a lot of Margaret Scott's born around 1900!! :-\

Maybe on 1901 census?
Class: RG13; Piece: 4818; Folio: 36; Page: 5
20 Davison Street, Newburn, Northumberland

Scott, Joseph B  Head  M  29  Steam Crane Driver  b St Anthony's, Northumberland
Scott, Jane A  Wife  F  29  Little Maplesytead, Essex
Scott, Sarah J  Daughter  F  5  b Newburn
Scott, Robert William  Son  M  4  b Newburn
Scott, Joseph B  Son  M  2  b Newburn
Scott, Margaret  Daughter  F  1  b Newburn
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: GR2 on Tuesday 18 November 14 21:39 GMT (UK)
Using FreeBMD, I can't see any Margaret APPLEBY Scott born at that time, so she must not be registered with the middle name.

The 1901 census shows a Joseph B. Scott, steam crane driver, married to Jane A., with children, including a Margaret, aged "1", at 20 davison Street, Newburn, Northumberland.

The 1901 census shows an Albert Scott, shipyard riveter, married to Mary, with two daughters, including a Margaret A., aged "2", at 8 Union Street, Stockton on Tees.
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 18 November 14 21:43 GMT (UK)
Using FreeBMD, I can't see any Margaret APPLEBY Scott born at that time, so she must not be registered with the middle name.


Plenty under Margaret A Scott though!
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: glenclare on Tuesday 18 November 14 21:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

Are there any other details on the marriage certificate that might help ?
Where was the marriage ?
Do you know any other details for the years between birth and marriage ?
Was she a spinster at marriage ?

Glen
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 18 November 14 23:04 GMT (UK)
When/where did she die and under what name?

If after 1969 then her exact date of birth should be given.
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: perth tiger on Wednesday 19 November 14 07:10 GMT (UK)
she was a spinster at marriage and married in worksop.
we think she died in scotland around 1944 name was lamb.
i saw the crane driver in the census but not riveter.
i am trying to follow the crane driver back to see if there is an appleby in the family
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 19 November 14 12:23 GMT (UK)
The name may go back a couple of generations;

MARGARET APPLEBY Scott, Birth Reg March 1857, Newcastle Tyne, 10b 21
(FreeBMD)

Baptism, 26 April 1857, St John's Parish, Newcastle Upon Tynes, Northumberland to EDWARD/MARGARET
(Anc.)

Edward SCOTT married Margaret APPLEBY, 21 Feb 1848, Tynemouth, Northumberland
(Familysearch.Org)

F/S has these Children christened to them;
Mary Ann Appleby S, 21 Jan 1849, death 1 Aug 1849*** strange as a Mary A is  with them 1851
Isabella Elizabeth S, 3 Nov 1850
Margaret Jane S, 17 Oct 1852
William Robert S, 10 June 1855
Elizabeth Jane S, 1859
Edward Appleby S, 22 Aug 1861

1851 in Newcastle upon Tyne;
Edward Scott, 23, Butcher, born Hexham
Margarett Scott,   23, born Gateshead
Mary A Scott, 2
Isabella Scott, 6 Mo

1851;
Edward Scott,33, Cattle Salesman, born Hexham
Margt Scott, 33
Mary Ann Scott,12
William R Scott, 6
MARGT A Scott, 4
Elizabeth J Scott, 2
+ 1 Servant


Trish :)
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:02 GMT (UK)
.Edward Appleby Scott was born and died 1861 Birth Reg Sept 1861 and Death Reg Dec 1861..

There is another Baptism for the same name to Edward/Margaret 14 Sept 1862

1871 he may be with Sister Mary A (as Mary V, born c 1839 Newcastle, image is Mary A Scott)
Her age is out born c 1839 Newcastle, Unm, Income from Houses, with Brother Edward 9 and Sister Elizabeth 11.
RG10/5076/69/19

Possible Death;
Margaret SCOTT, Birth 1829, 1871 Newcastle


What I am trying to say is somehow you should end up with Edward/Margaret in your Tree :)
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: perth tiger on Wednesday 19 November 14 20:23 GMT (UK)
thanks Trish. i will look them up  :)
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: perth tiger on Wednesday 19 November 14 20:42 GMT (UK)
her death entry which i have just found shows her age as 48 in 1950. as we all know this could be just a guess from the informant
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: andycand on Wednesday 19 November 14 23:09 GMT (UK)
her death entry which i have just found shows her age as 48 in 1950. as we all know this could be just a guess from the informant

If she died in Scotland then it would be worth downloading the death registration from http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/) as it should have the names of both parents provided the informant has that knowledge.

Andy
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: perth tiger on Thursday 20 November 14 06:37 GMT (UK)
unfortunately the names of her parents are missing fom the entry
how you doing Andy, long time no see
Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: andycand on Thursday 20 November 14 07:17 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm doing fine, how are you? Still watching Top Gear?

You are really unlucky, Scottish marriages and deaths are usually a boon when looking for family information.

Andy



Title: Re: looking for a birth
Post by: perth tiger on Sunday 23 November 14 00:04 GMT (UK)
yes still watching tg.
this family is proving very difficult to follow