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Title: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: biscuit1971 on Wednesday 19 November 14 02:34 GMT (UK)
I am trying to piece together a family "lie" that has gone on for give or take the last 70 years.  My Grandmother met and Married my Grandfather Luther A C Cooper as a Probert.  I have now found out that her family name is Didcock.  her father was called Harry Didcock, Mother is unknown, Sister is Annie G Pratley (Didcock) (Married Sydney Pratley)... and her brother is Harry Didcock.  I am looking for information on that family, dates for the parents, possibly a mothers name.  All documentation i have found up until now is under name Probert, nothing under Didcock... so any assistance is greatly appreciated. 
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 19 November 14 07:44 GMT (UK)
If you purchase one of the birth certificates it will give mothers name. 
You can find details needed here  http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Certificates are available from the GRO for £9.25 including postage
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 19 November 14 08:24 GMT (UK)
See also previous Probert thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=705604.0
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 19 November 14 08:59 GMT (UK)
According to a tree on Ancestry, Annie's mother was Florence Lydia Didcock, and her father was Harry Albert Green.
The parents married in 1914.


Annie's birth?:
December qtr 1910
Wallingford district     vol 2c, page 307

Didcock, Annie G


None of this matches a 1911 census?! ???
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: biscuit1971 on Wednesday 19 November 14 11:51 GMT (UK)
I haven't paid for ancestry yet.  I had paid for it for 6 months before but got absolutely nowhere.  so im researching the siblings and go from there.  I've all but decided that the family is a lost cause.
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 19 November 14 12:15 GMT (UK)
Interesting that there is a daughter with her on the voyage to USA  in 1947. She is aged 6 so born before her marriage to your grandfather.

Worth searching on FreeBMD for a birth reg under the various surnames.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/search


Gadget

Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: MargP on Wednesday 19 November 14 12:20 GMT (UK)
Interesting that there is a daughter with her on the voyage to USA  in 1947. She is aged 6 so born before her marriage to your grandfather.

Worth searching on FreeBMD for a birth reg under the various surnames.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/search


Gadget
Hi, she was born in 1947, so I think it should state 6 mths
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 19 November 14 12:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks,  Marg - it does say 6 though  ::)

Added -
I see that there is a  multiple col headed A. C. I  - assume Adult; Child; Infant. This daughter was in the I col
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: MargP on Wednesday 19 November 14 12:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks,  Marg - it does say 6 though  ::)

Added -
I see that there is a  multiple col headed A. C. I  - assume Adult; Child; Infant. This daughter was in the I col
Well, as you probably know Gadget, most records are copied from other sources, and are prone to error.  :) :)
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:13 GMT (UK)
I don't think it was an error,  Marg, which was why I described  the A; C, I cols. I think it was the way the passenger lists were supposed to be filled in.  A mark in the I column denoted a child under 1 year  (i.e. it was an infant and became a C (child) when it reached 1)  Further down the page are infants listed as 11;  8; 7.

See also col 7   :-X


Gadget
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:21 GMT (UK)

Annie's birth?:
December qtr 1910
Wallingford district     vol 2c, page 307

Didcock, Annie G


None of this matches a 1911 census?! ???

Would match if the number (in years) was actually months.

Have found marriage of parents of this Annie to find mother's maiden name, then searched for any later children. None came up so it looks as if this Annie was their last, so no younger sisters.

But she does seem to be the only candidate to have married a Pratley.

I don't think it was an error,  Marg, which was why I described  the A; C, I cols. I think it was the way the passenger lists were supposed to be filled in.  A mark in the I column denoted a child under 1 year  (i.e. it was an infant and became a C (child) when it reached 1)  Further down the page are infants listed as 11;  8; 7.

See also col 7   :-X

An odd way of listing it, but understand it now. Perhaps they needed to split children from infants to allocate cabin space, food rations etc
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:28 GMT (UK)
I found Annie Gwendolyn in 1911.
But there is no brother Harry, neither is there a sister Cecelia?
And no births after the 1911 census appear to be the same family?

So I am not convinced that this Annie, who appears to marry Mr Pratley, is the right family?


It's all very confusing! ??? ;D
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: MargP on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:31 GMT (UK)
I don't think it was an error,  Marg, which was why I described  the A; C, I cols. I think it was the way the passenger lists were supposed to be filled in.  A mark in the I column denoted a child under 1 year  (i.e. it was an infant and became a C (child) when it reached 1)  Further down the page are infants listed as 11;  8; 7.

See also col 7   :-X


Gadget
That's Gadget, the penny has dropped
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:36 GMT (UK)
I found Annie Gwendolyn in 1911.
But there is no brother Harry, neither is there a sister Cecelia?
And no births after the 1911 census appear to be the same family?

So I am not convinced that this Annie, who appears to marry Mr Pratley, is the right family?


It's all very confusing! ??? ;D

You can say that again, Kevin. I'm coming to the conclusion that her name was none of the ones that we've looked for so far (first or surnames)  and she doesn't want us raking up her past.
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:37 GMT (UK)
I found Annie Gwendolyn in 1911.
But there is no brother Harry, neither is there a sister Cecelia?
And no births after the 1911 census appear to be the same family?

So I am not convinced that this Annie, who appears to marry Mr Pratley, is the right family?


It's all very confusing! ??? ;D

If you look at Berks burial index the address at which Annie was living when she died in 1955 is the same one given by Cecilia and children on the passenger list when they went to USA in 1947.

Very confusing with two threads running.
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:50 GMT (UK)
I have said, on the other thread, that there is obviously something here that Gran wants to be kept secret!

And OP should tread very carefully! ;D

Now, whether it's an adoption, an illegitimate birth, workhouse, mental asylum or something other, I still think it best to leave well alone?
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 19 November 14 13:54 GMT (UK)
I have said, on the other thread, that there is obviously something here that Gran wants to be kept secret!

And OP should tread very carefully! ;D

Now, whether it's an adoption, an illegitimate birth, workhouse, mental asylum or something other, I still think it best to leave well alone?

I agree, Kevin  :)
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 19 November 14 14:11 GMT (UK)
I have said, on the other thread, that there is obviously something here that Gran wants to be kept secret!

And OP should tread very carefully! ;D

Now, whether it's an adoption, an illegitimate birth, workhouse, mental asylum or something other, I still think it best to leave well alone?
My heads spinning here  ??? ???

I agree, Kevin  :)
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: MargP on Wednesday 19 November 14 14:57 GMT (UK)
I found Annie Gwendolyn in 1911.
But there is no brother Harry, neither is there a sister Cecelia?
And no births after the 1911 census appear to be the same family?

So I am not convinced that this Annie, who appears to marry Mr Pratley, is the right family?


It's all very confusing! ??? ;D

If you look at Berks burial index the address at which Annie was living when she died in 1955 is the same one given by Cecilia and children on the passenger list when they went to USA in 1947.

Very confusing with two threads running.
There is a brother Harry Didcock b 1885
Title: Re: Didcocks in Berkshire
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 19 November 14 16:02 GMT (UK)
Different family to Annie Didcock's family. Harry's family in Abingdon and Annies in Long Wittenham