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Title: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 01:12 GMT (UK)
I was wondering if someone can help me find our what happened to William j Preece born in 1911. He is the half brother of my father Ronald Preece. His mother remarried a Robert Christie. The children of that marriage Robert A Christie and Ernest M Christie .
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: Neil Todd on Friday 21 November 14 01:40 GMT (UK)
Umm where would all of this have happened  ???

Neil
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 02:27 GMT (UK)
hi Nell
My Grandfatheris William Patrick Preece  He Married a Ethel Maude Duncan had they had a child James Preece. My grandfather lived with a Leila Ramsay there are 2 sons from that relationship. One of the children is my Father Ronald Preece. I am trying to find our what happened to James Preece also know as Willaim J preece . William J preece  mother Maiden name was Ethel Maude Duncan  -  married a Robert Christie and they had two sons
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: cando on Friday 21 November 14 02:29 GMT (UK)
Where in Australia did these events occur?

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 02:32 GMT (UK)
All these events took place in NSW
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 02:41 GMT (UK)
There is a lot of confusion because on the NSW BDM index lists the marriage of William Preece to Ethel Maude Duncan on the 1910, There was a son James A born to the couple, also in 1910. Ethel Maude Preece later went on the marry a Robert Christie and on the death certificate it lists a son William J no surname. My Grandfather William Preece enters a relationship with Leila Ramsay and they have two sons. My father is one of the sons Ronald Preece. I would like to find our what happened to my fathers half brother.
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 21 November 14 02:47 GMT (UK)
Marriage:

PREECE William m. DUNCAN Maud 18/03/1910 LISMORE #1870
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 21 November 14 02:52 GMT (UK)
Birth:

PREECE JAMES A b. 25/07/1910 LISMORE #27980   
Parents: WILLIAM P & MAUDE

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: wivenhoe on Friday 21 November 14 03:01 GMT (UK)



"...Ethel Maude Preece later went on the marry a Robert Christie..."

I am not seeing this marriage in NSW. Can you please give the year and place?

Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 03:10 GMT (UK)
Her death certificate shows she as a widow . I just assumed that they were married .It lists on her death certificate  children of the marriage
1st Marriage William J 49
2nd Marriage Robert A 47
Ernest M 45
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 03:16 GMT (UK)
On Ethel Maude Christie death certificate it lists her as a widow. The children of the marriage
is listed as 1st Marriage - William J  49
                 2nd Mariage Robert A 47
                                    erbest N 45

I think she may have assumed the name Christie. What do you think
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 21 November 14 03:16 GMT (UK)
... on the death certificate it lists a son William J no surname

Surnames of children are not listed on NSW death certificates.
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 21 November 14 03:18 GMT (UK)
Her death certificate shows she as a widow . I just assumed that they were married.

Marriage/s should be listed on her death certificate.
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 21 November 14 03:19 GMT (UK)
Who was the informant on her death certificate?
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 03:21 GMT (UK)
The informant  was R Christie son  Merrylands registered 3/7/61
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 21 November 14 04:38 GMT (UK)
No mention of their brother in the death notices of Robert Arthur & Ernest Maxwell CHRISTIE.

Robert 1966:
http://postimg.org/image/kp7067lpp/

Ernest 1985:
http://postimg.org/image/pnleypfyp/

Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: cando on Friday 21 November 14 05:21 GMT (UK)
Australian Electoral Roll
1913
CHRISTIE Robert Maxwell  The Cedars  Mossman  Canecutter

There is no marriage for Robert Maxwell CHRISTIE to an Ethel or Maud by 1920.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article93021459
Northern Star Lismore  7 Jan 1920
Defendant Robert Maxwell Christie admitted speaking to Lena Clancy about controlling the children who were continually throwing stone and beating his 4 year old boy.

Australian Electoral Roll
1930
CHRISTIE Ethel Maud 746 Parramatta Road, Lewisham   HD
CHRISTIE Robert Maxwell  746 Parramatta Road, Lewisham  Taxi driver

1943
CHRISTIE Ernest Maxwell  12 Charles Street, Corrimal  Gas examiner
CHRISTIE Ethel Maude 12 Charles Street, Corrimal  HD
CHRISTIE Frances Mary  28 Station Street, Corrimal  HD
CHRISTIE Marjorie  12 Charles Street, Corrimal  HD
CHRISTIE Robert Arthur  28 Station Street, Corrimal  Labourer
CHRISTIE Robert Maxwell  12 Charles Street, Corrimal  Labourer
CHRISTIE William John 12 Charles Street, Corrimal  Labourer

201543/1979     
CHRISTIE William John  Died Waterfall   68 years

Cando   
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: cando on Friday 21 November 14 07:46 GMT (UK)
This Wm PREECE registered at birth in Victoria as William Patrick PREECE but states he is not married on his attestation paper.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NAAMedia/ShowImage.asp?B=8023111&S=1&T=R

Is this your Wm Patrick PREECE?

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article142406387
Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners' Advocate  9 Mar 1936

Sydney Morning Herald 18 Apr  1936
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27991926

Sydney Morning Herald
  8 May 1936
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17330996


Cando
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 21 November 14 07:49 GMT (UK)
201543/1979     
CHRISTIE William John  Died Waterfall   68 years

DoD = 14 Aug 1979
Title: Re: William j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Friday 21 November 14 23:35 GMT (UK)
Yes this is my William Patrick  Preece also known as William  Preece. He was born in Sandford Vic . He also put no to being married on the attestation Paper. I appreciate all the information about William Preece as I have no knowledge on him or his ancestors. I am interested to find more about this William  John  Christie- it sounds like he could be my dads half brother.
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: cando on Saturday 22 November 14 10:50 GMT (UK)
I would suggest that William John CHRISTIE is the person you are seeking :).  He used the surname of his mother's partner.  He is living with Ethel Maude and her family on the electoral roll and his age at death is a match for his year of birth. 

Perhaps his death certificate may have some identifying information.  You can purchase a transcription from
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html#transcription

Cando
Title: Re: Willaim j Preece
Post by: india12344 on Monday 24 November 14 00:35 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the information. I will order a certificate . I was wondering if he was married and had any children.