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Some Special Interests => Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms => Topic started by: bean on Tuesday 25 November 14 13:48 GMT (UK)
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Does it have any significance or meaning of it's own or imply anything when used?
Asking as there is one in an ancestors arms as shown in my avatar.
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Looking at heraldic design for the first time in ages, the "engrailing on the two red fesses" would seem just to be for design puropses.
http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossf.htm
http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglosse.htm
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e95/
Regards
Malky
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Regarding the significance or meaning of any particular charge (or colour) in a coat of arms, the MFAQ (Most Frequently Asked Questions) at Francois Velde's "Heraldica" website notes:
"The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the
charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism."
If you'd like more detail, you can read the entire MFAQ at http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq
David
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Thanks both - I'll have a good read of the sites you suggested.
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In Fosters 1902 Feudal Coat of Arms he says that for really old (much before College of Arms and quartering times) arms there is a recurring logic that when two families merged their wealth the subsequent arms reflect parts of both families arms.
If the family that owned your lion/fesse was old perhaps they were descended from one family with just the lion and another with the fesse?
If the family was much later ignore the above though...
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That's interesting - may be more digging is required as I'm not sure how far back that side goes, there are certainly links back to 14/1500's
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Pownall of Cheshire are recorded as using "argent a lion rampant sable" as are one of the Newton families:-
http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/vale_royal/VRE19.html (http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/vale_royal/VRE19.html)
Any connections to your family in marriage of area?