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Title: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: k1_oz on Tuesday 25 November 14 13:50 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I was wondering whether anyone had access to the indexes of the Scots Cemetery in Calcutta, India.
In particular, I have found that there was an Ann d'Rozario who had been buried there, but unfortunately, I have NO idea of the date, or anything else about this Ann d'Rozario.

Thanks for taking the time.
Karina
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 25 November 14 13:55 GMT (UK)
http://kabristan.org.uk/kabristan-indexes/india-indexes/50-india-calcutta
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=2319595
Title: Calcutta, INDIA: Ann De Rozario / De Rozar (1798)
Post by: k1_oz on Tuesday 25 November 14 13:58 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to find information on a certain Ann de Rozario or De Rozar that is the executor of an estate in 1798 in Calcutta.
She must have been able to read and write in order to be executor (I assume), and was residing in Calcutta in 1798. I'm wondering if anyone has information on such a person.

Thanks for taking the time to read.
Karina
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 25 November 14 14:01 GMT (UK)
Duplicate thread with more information:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=706226.msg5491955
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Ann De Rozario / De Rozar (1798)
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 25 November 14 14:02 GMT (UK)
Duplicate:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=706225.new#new
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 25 November 14 14:05 GMT (UK)
Scottish cemetery est 1820. If Ann died before that she may be elsewhere.

What leads you to believe she would be buried in the Scottish Cemetery? D'Rozario is not a very Scottish surname. Are you sure she died in India?
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 25 November 14 14:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Karina

Topics merged

Referring to the will of which she was executor, who's will was it?

There may be others elsewhere

13 Nov 1805 at Calcutta, Mrs Ann D'Rozario, aged 26 years

3 Feb 1807 at the Fort William Garrison, Ann D'Rozario, a native woman

Dawn
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: k1_oz on Wednesday 26 November 14 14:07 GMT (UK)
Hello and thanks for the replies.

Thanks for the sites, Ruskie. Sadly the first one had no dates (just a mention of Anne D'Rozario being buried there), and the second (with the monument photos) did not list her.
I did find another site, which showed photos of the state of the cemetery and I'm not surprised that there may be some known graves that cannot be read, as there seems to be significant degradation to some of the monuments.

http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/296998/details/india+kolkata+karaya+road+scottish+cemetery/

The fact that D'Rozario was NOT a very Scottish name was exactly what caught my attention!! I could only think that she may have been originally Scottish, and married internationally. I am looking for an executor of a wealthy Scottish Doctor's will in 1798, so I assume that I am looking for a person with sufficient literacy, and have presumed at this point that she must have been European (in 1798). Apart from this assumption, and the mention of her name, I know nothing else about her (not her age, nor her martial state, nor the length of time she spent in india).....and any information on the person buried in the Scots cemetery or another contenders would be very welcome.

Dawnsh, would you have any more information on the Mrs Ann d'Rozario who died in 1805?

All the best,
Karina
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 26 November 14 22:30 GMT (UK)

 I am looking for an executor of a wealthy Scottish Doctor's will in 1798, so I assume that I am looking for a person with sufficient literacy, and have presumed at this point that she must have been European (in 1798). Apart from this assumption, and the mention of her name, I know nothing else about her (not her age, nor her martial state, nor the length of time she spent in india).....


That is very mysterious. If you can explain who and what exactly you are looking for (dates, locations etc) then someone may be able to help you further.

Was your Scottish doctor living in Calcutta when he died? Was Ann named as the executor of his will? And you are just trying to work out what relationship she and the doctor may have had?
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: susiee on Tuesday 24 February 15 08:19 GMT (UK)
Do you mean the Ann De Rozaar   Executor for Dr William Spink  who was the East India co Surgeon, and Board member at Bombay Hospital.     Ann and Dr W  Spink had 2 boys William  and Charles   and named Ann as  their Mother in his Will.   Due to the lawyer renouncing Ann was sworn as Executrix  however she could not read and made a mark,  another Lawyer named Constable  took  over the Estate management .


 Her G son went on to join the Army in USA and each Attestation  paper described him  physically as possibly   having a different cultural background   to Scotland where he was Born.     Do you think  this is the same Ann..
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Newtradition on Tuesday 30 January 18 02:57 GMT (UK)
My wife has an ancestor named Charles Spink whom we believe was Dr William Spink's grandson, Her Charles came to Australia with his wife Ann (nee Thompson) and we have details of his life and ancestors in Australia. However, we have been seeking more information about Charles' father, Charles. We believe his partner was Isabella Rankine, although we have found no evidence that they were married. There were several other siblings. We would welcome more information about Dr William Spink as we had been led to believe that he had married a local lady in India while there as a surgeon. It appears that Ann De Rozaar is that lady. Can you please confirm that a marriage took place? Also is there any reference from the Scottish records in India that Dr William's father was also in India?

Any information would be welcome.

Regards
Steve
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: susiee on Tuesday 30 January 18 07:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve

Yes,   this is def the right  Spink  family !

Thanks for your reply,     We have a vast amount on the families  going right back that i think you would be interested in .  There has been a few of us around the world  that have been researching the Spinks  together  ( online ) and in fact the funny thing is we have just been doing more together  in the last few days  !!! after a break and the Thompson  research is what has been worked on  only have been to busy to get involved in the last few days  but i am happy to  join you up to them  for that info as well .    Dr William Spink did not marry  Ann ( Nancy was her nick name ) however Dr William ensured  she was named as the boys mother in  his Will and she was left a large legacy .  He is named as the boys Father on their Baptisms in India but not her which was normal - However when he died 1798  there was a problem  with one of the Lawyers who  left India, i  n the end  Ann was appointed  administrator ( Bombay Courier )  and there was codicils in his Will.          Its a pretty  huge story  Steve.  Im just looking how to send a PM on here but not sure how  right now .   S
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 30 January 18 20:05 GMT (UK)
Please use the personal message system to exchange email addresses

http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Newtradition on Wednesday 31 January 18 06:29 GMT (UK)
It seems as if there is a really interesting family story which we have not discovered. We have been dabbling in family history for some years, and know that there has been quite a lot of work done on the Spinks' and the other family connections, such as the Thompsons. About 20 years ago, we spent almost two days in the Scottish Archives in Edinburgh and came home to Australia with a great wad of paper, copies of documents concerning the Spink families in particular, but we haven't read them for several years, so perhaps the time has come to read them again.
We would be more than happy to get involved with your group. We may have small bits of information which you don't have, although I suspect that this is unlikely, but we would like to know more about my wife's ancestors (her name is Yvonne). She also has German/Danish ancestry and we have been lucky with expanding our knowledge of that line, thanks to an archivist in Germany who we found quite by chance and who lives in the same village where Yvonne's came from. I am happy to pass on my email address, if you have any information to share, but I'm not sure if that is appropriate thought RootsChat. Perhaps you can advise me. Regards - Steve
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: susiee on Wednesday 31 January 18 07:09 GMT (UK)
Steve , thanks for that ,  Im hoping you have received  a pm i  sent  not sure i did it right.
 S
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Newtradition on Wednesday 31 January 18 08:38 GMT (UK)
Yes, Sue. It came through OK. I will send you an email reply later this evening.
Steve
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: susiee on Wednesday 31 January 18 09:18 GMT (UK)
Oh it seems to have worked... yah   !

Steve it is such an incredible story  even going back to Dr Williams Father   Captain  Andrew Spink   who was shot smuggling tobbaco  i  got the  records  from London Archives.   

  When we connect on line i can send you an invite into my  Spink Ancestry tree .
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Newtradition on Wednesday 31 January 18 09:40 GMT (UK)
That sounds great, Sue. I have just sent you an email, so I hope this gives you a little more info about Yvonne's connection.
Steve
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Grothenwell on Tuesday 22 January 19 06:58 GMT (UK)
Sorry to hijack post, but rather than started a new post, I thought this thread would likely answer my query. I have a grand aunt buried in the Calcutta Scots Cemetery (Elizabeth Brechin), the Stone says “Betty Taylor (married name) died 1st August 1938 E (perhaps it’s L). A.D.T”  I have no details other than the Stone, so if any one could tell me how I could start to find out why she was over there, or what the letters stand for please?
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Sherlock on Wednesday 27 February 19 17:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Grothenwell

TAYLOR Elizabeth Ann Davidson
(Burial Register the Scots’ Cemetery Calcutta/Kolkata India)

Copies of memorial inscriptions/burial records are available for £4.00 by email. To order please see the order form at Genealogy Bookshop. Please email info@kabristan.org.uk if you have any questions or require more information.

Eileen at Kabristan was very helpful when I needed a transcript of my grandmother's burial record from the Scots Cemetery.

Sherlock
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: Grothenwell on Thursday 28 February 19 06:01 GMT (UK)
Thank you Sherlock
Title: Re: Calcutta, INDIA: Scots Cemetery look-up
Post by: susiee on Thursday 05 May 22 20:52 BST (UK)
Sorry i have not replied her i  have only just  seen these  posts .   Thank you for them  im not sure how i missed them .