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I am trying to find information re my step father Adolfo Roberto Manuel - (Bob) Blomberg. Although he was Swedish he was born 2 OCT 1929 in Buenos Aires Argentina. He died here in Australia 4 NOV 1984 in Princess Alexandra Hospital South Brisbane. Over the years I have had no luck in getting information about him especially Swedish information. I have given up pretty much over the last few years but now I would like to make a concerted effort in finding his family. Apart from the above, all I know is that his parents were quiet wealthy. His Father owned a Volvo dealership and his mother a Shoe business and were Swedish and lived in Sweden. His father may be named Oke and his Mother Jill. I don't know their birth or death dates. I do know that his Mother died and his father re married a woman named Stina. I actually visited her in Karlstad in 1980 but she has since died. My step father and his father's new wife didn't get on and so he left the country. I believe he became a seaman as I do have a little info on some ships he worked on. He ended up in Australia in the early 50's. Met my Mother who was divorced and I was about 2 or 3. He raised me till his early death in 1984. I think that's about it. If there is anyone who can assist me I would be very grateful. I did read some posts from Jamcat95 who was posting about another relative of mine - Florence Beatrice St Claire. I thought he may be able to help as he lives in Sweden. I would really like to know my Swedish roots. Although he was my Step father he did raise me. He never did go back to Sweden.
Hoping someone can help me.
Larry Blomberg
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Have you got his marriage certificate to your Mother , or his death certificate?
Added:
Is it your tree on ancestry, with him in it?
Had his Father died by the time you visited the stepmother in 1980?
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I know nothing about names for Swedish records, so you might be better posting on other boards, but there is this for a possible birth for Ock Blomberg, depends how old you think Ock was when Adolfo was born, and what surname he actually takes.
Ocke Döpt, born 8 nov 1907 in Värmdö, Stockholm, Sweden
Father was Klas Ludvig Blomberg and the father was born on 18 Oct 1876
Mother was Emilia Sofia Eriksson and she was born on 25 Sep 1862
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Hi chempat and Larry,
chempat: Where did you get this info about Ocke. I have traced this family in the books here in Sweden but there was no Ocke listed as a member of this family nor was there an Ocke born on Värmdö in that year.
Larry: What info do you have on Stina from Karlstad? I need her surname to have any chance of locating her.
Also, I don't recall the name Florence Beatrice St Claire. Can you remind me please, it may help.
Ian
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Hi CHEMPAT - Firstly, I would like to thank you for taking an interest in my question to this forum.
In answering your questions.
I do not have any marriage certs as they never actually married - they were together for over 30 years till his death in 1984 aged 55. This caused a problem in Swedish law when my Grandmother, Stina died. I was informed that as there was no marriage between my Mother and my Dad I was not recognised and therefore was not entitled to anything. I hadn't even asked for anything - didn't even inquire.
I do have his death cert. It states that his fathers name was Oke. This would have been provided by my Mother. There is no name for his Mother on the Cert. He died in Brisbane 4th Nov 1984 aged 55.
How I came to say my Grandmother's name was Jill was because I have a pic of both of them and one says Oke and the other says Jill. You know what the more I look at it perhaps it doesn't say Jill - perhaps it is in Swedish as there are a few words on the pic and it just looks like Jill. I tried to attach it but don't seem to be able to.
Yes that is my tree on Ancestry with Bob Blomberg in it. The pics of his parents are also on it.
Yes, by the time I visited Stina in Karlstad around 1980 my Grandfather had already died but I don't recall what year he died - It may have been in the first half of the 70's as I think I was still living at home when he died. I do recall that my Dad was very upset that he hadn't returned to see him.
JAMCAT95 - Thanks for the help, I need it.
In regards to Stina's name - I can only suggest that her married name was Stina Blomberg. When I visited her she was living on her own in Karlstad. Apart from a photo I have that's all the info I have. I do not have the emails sent to me shortly before her death. These emails came from a lawyer I believe just informing me that she was very ill and further emails stating that she had died. I was never told where she was buried/cremated - no more emails after that.
There was a thread I read re Florence Beatrice St Claire - the wife of my Great Grand Uncle Sydney Herbert Sandry. Her third husband was Swedish, Karl Gustaf Sundstrom. I was looking for info on the Sandry name and you had contributed a number of comments as she was married 4 times and the third was to a Swede.
One of your posts included the following; Dated 28 May this year
Thank you majm....
Here is the family in 1890 in Nyköping. Carl's father was a river pilot.
If you want I can trace this family in the books here in Sweden.
Sundström, Gerdt Karl - born 1837 - Father
Karlsson, Augusta Charlotta - born 1855 - Mother
Then you included the whole family which assisted me as well without you knowing - Thanks
After looking again at the pics of my Grandfather and Grandmother and looking again at the writing on them - it says G.F. - "Julian ??? or similar 1958 Poppa. For G.M. - J.ill Adolfo??? Julian??? 1958.
Thanks to both of you for taking an interest
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Hi Larry
Can you put the back of the photo on Ancestry if you have problems with it on Roots. I would like to see the names.
Cheers.
Ian
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ahh!
Just noticed that you had a private tree.
Ian
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Ian,
I just did a complete search on ancestry for anything on Ock Blomberg born in Sweden around 1900, and that popped up in births. (Sweden indexed birth records 1860-1941 in Swedish,)
There is more information on the image, which I did not attempt to decipher (not me personally, but a colleague is Swedish).
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Hi chempat
Just found your Ocke on Ancestry. After looking at the record there it says "icke döpt" - not christened.
Her name was Ingeborg Maria and was actually born in Kungsholm, Stockholm.
I didn't see the date in the book until now (it got a bit late last night).
Ian
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Oh well, I tried.
Have you submitted a correction, as I do not think I can do it with any authority over the language?
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Oh well, I tried.
Have you submitted a correction, as I do not think I can do it with any authority over the language?
Not your fault.
You at least found it on Ancestry.
I will submit a correction.
Cheers.
Ian
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Larry,
You mentioned emails about Stina's death.
Not in the 1980's, surely - it would have been paper correspondence?
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Hi Larry
Can you send me the image of the names on the back of the photo please. I have sent you a PM with my email address.
And if you want I can then post it here.
Ian
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Hi Chempat and Jampat95
Chempat - No emails from 1980 - that's when I visited Karlstad, sorry for the confusion. I received and sent emails around 2000 to 2004 I think - but not certain.
Jamcat95 - I have not received any PM from you. I have the pics ready to send. Have looked at a tutorial so will try and attach the pics.
Also, I just realised something. The pics are marked 1958. My Dad left Sweden before this and his natural mother had already died so the pic must be of Stina his step mother. I've had these pics for many years and only just realised this. The more I look at the pic, the more I think it is Stina
Larry
Now I really have to find some info.
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Doesn't it say "Till Adolfo" (i.e. To Adolfo)?
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Doesn't it say "Till Adolfo" (i.e. To Adolfo)?
Hi avm228
Yes I think it could. It makes sense to me. These pics were my Dads so they must have been sent to him here in Australia. Now I have to find out the details of my Dad's parents and whether I have any family still living in Sweden.
Thanks - Larry
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Hi
I don't know what happened to the PM. No worries.
It says "Julen 1958". Julen meaning Christmas. It also says "Till" meaning To.
Ian
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Hi Ian
Then it appears that my Dad received the two pics from his Father and Stepmother for Christmas 1958.
Do you have any suggestions as to how I can find out more info re Oke and his first wife and his second wife Stina?
Larry
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Hi
I need to know when Oke died and when his first wife died. Also her name. I have a number of databases to look in.
Also, could Oke be really Åke? These 2 names are pronounced very similar. Oke is not that a common name.
Åke as in Orca the killer whale.
Ian
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Hi Larry
You said you had some info on the ships he had been on. Is it possible to see them. It might give a clue.
Also do you know why they were in Argentina. Do you think Oke was born in Sweden?
Ian
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Hi Ian
Thanks for the help. For the first time I think I might actually get somewhere. Would it help you better if I gave you access to my tree? There are a number of ship's documents on there but they really only state his name , ship, voyage, date etc
I spoke again with my mother this morning about this. Unfortunately she knows about as much as me. My Dad just never spoke of his Swedish family - something happened within the family and as I said he left Sweden, never returned and I don't think he ever communicated with his Father or Stepmother again so sad and I think he regretted it when his Father died.
My Mother said that she had a passport of my Dad's but when he died it got left behind in the cottage in Queensland and has long since disappeared.
My Mother did say the following;
1 She is not sure that Bob's (my Dad) Father is named Oke. I challenged this as this is the name on the death certificate and the ONLY way it could be recorded on the cert was if my Mother told the authorities it was Oke. She then said that maybe she got the name from the passport - She is 86 and she just can't be sure. So I suppose Oke could be Ake
2 My Mother also said - Oke was born in Sweden - His first wife was born in Argentina - Oke went to Argintina to assist in some way with the war. My mother said it was the civil war but my understanding is that the Argentinian Civil War was finished before the 1900's when I suspect Oke was born.
3 Oke met his wife (we do not know her name) but there is a pic of her on my Ancestry site and Bob was born in Argentina 2 Oct 1929 in Buenos Aires Argentina. I recall emailing some Govt depts some years ago looking for information but never received any replies. They returned to Sweden.
4 Bob's mother died in Sweden while she was young, that's all I know. Bob was about 16 to 18??? when a huge dispute erupted between him, his Father and Stina the new wife. Bob left but my Mother says he completed 2 years national service before he went to sea. She further says that he rode around on bikes in the National Service assisting with conscriptions.
5 With this info it looks like Bob's Mother could have died during the early 40's and he went to sea when he was around 18.
I seem to recall that when I visited Stina in 1980/81 I was saying to myself if only I had come earlier I could have met Oke. This leads me to believe that maybe he died in the second half of the 70's. I just can't be sure. I do however feel confident that he died in the 70's.
I am trying to put everything down in the hope that someone can help.
Larry
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Hi
I have just realised that there I sent the PM to Larry Blomberg and not you. You can invite me to your tree please.
I will PM you now with my address.
Ian
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Hi
GOT HIM!
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His mother's death from the database:
Blomberg b. Higuera, Maria Luz
Stg 840, Färjestadsvägen 3
Dead 1/14/1948.
Registered in Karlstad (Värmlands län, Värmland).
Born 9/12/1893 in Spanien.
Unmarried woman.
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2014:
Karlstads domkyrkoförs, Karlstads kn (Värmlands län, Värmland)
Norrstrand, Karlstads kn (Värmlands län, Värmland)
Västerstrand, Karlstads kn (Värmlands län, Värmland)
Parish of birth in the records:
Spanien
Ian
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Family in 1900:
Blomberg, Adolf Reinhold b.1850 - Father
Adlerstam, Ebba b.1854 - Mother
Adolf Pontus b.1882 - Child
Ernst Ragnar Linus b.1884 - Child
John Åke b.1893 - Child
Ian
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Åke's (Oke) death:
Blomberg, John Åke Viktor
Herrgården Brunsberg
670 30 Edane
Dead 4/30/1981.
Registered (1977) in Brunskog, Arvika kn (Värmlands län, Värmland). Registered for taxation (1977) in the same parish.
Born 10/4/1893 in Marstrand (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Bohuslän).
Married man (9/3/1950).
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Parish of birth in the records:
Marstrand (Göteborg och Bohus)
Ian
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Stina's death:
Blomberg, Stina Augusta
Sveag 10 A
652 22 Karlstad
Dead 1/22/2000.
Registered (1997) in Karlstads domkyrkoförs, Karlstads kn (Värmlands län, Värmland).
Born 7/25/1905 in Norrköpings Sankt Olai (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
Widow (4/30/1981).
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Parish of birth in the records:
S:T Olai (Östergötland)
Ian
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Here is Åke in the 1980 Census at the same address when they died:
Blomberg, John Åke Viktor 18931004
Blomberg, Stina Augusta 19050725
Lefrén, Anna Margareta 18920704
Ian
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There is a lot of info now for you to get stuck into. It looks as though Oke died a lot later than everyone knew.
So if you want I can now trace your whole Swedish side all the way back as the books and info allow!!
This one will do for now:
The family grave:
Blomberg, Adolf Reinhold
Blomberg, Ernst Ragnar
Blomberg, John Åke Viktor 18931004-6413
Blomberg, Maria
Blomberg, Sigrid Helena Kristina 18871127-7502
Blomberg, John Åke Viktor
b. 4/10 1893
Brunskog (Brunskog, Arvika kn, Värmlands län)
Died 30/4 1981
Buried 17/6 1981
Arvika Cemetry, Qu. D, nr. 139 (urn, nr 1 in grave)
[l 1]
Arvika kyrkliga samfällighet (Arvika kn, Värmlands län)
Box 111
671 23 ARVIKA
Telephone. 0570-72 82 00
arvika.pastorat@svenskakyrkan.se
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WOW IAN = I just went out for an hour and came back to this. I haven't had a read through yet, but I will now. I have sent you an invite to my tree. Now I will go over what you have found and get back to you - So excited now.
Larry
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Happy reading.
I'm off to bed now.
Let me know what you think.
All the best.
Ian
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One last thing...... here is the grave plan for the Blomberg family:
Use Google translate..
http://www.svenskagravar.se/index.php/sok_resultat?mode=norm&DISTRIKT=&KGARD=arvika&GRAV_NR=&GRAV_NR_SELTYPE=E&FOR_NAMN=&EFTER_NAMN=blomberg&FODELSE_DATUM=&DODS_DATUM=&ORDER_BY=Fornamn&ORDER_DIRECTION=ASCENDING
Ian
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Ian - Thanks so much. I will go over all of this and will get back to you. My Mother will be very pleased.
Larry
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ian,
Just out of curiosity, what sites are you using to access Swedish records?
It means that I can point people in the right direction if anyone asks. (And I do not mean that you are the default right direction, just the sites, whether paying or otherwise)
Thank-you
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Hi chempat
I use Arkivdigital to look in the books. I have bought the cd databases for the censuses and death records.
Here is a link to my help sticky: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=661355.0
And of course, myself.
The reason I didn't find him quicker was the fact that I used Åke as his christian name which was John. I am still learning after all this time.
Ian
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Hi Larry
Just looking at the records a little better this morning. I noticed that Maria Higuera was born in Barcena in Spain. Åke and her and Alfonso came back to Sweden on 1 July 1935. They stayed at his parent's residence for about a month until the 16 Aug 1935 before moving on to Visnum parish. Unfortunately the books only go up to 1934.
Ian
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Hi Ian
I have been very busy all afternoon correcting my tree, adding to it and just going through it all. There are a few things I don't understand as yet but I still have a ways to go just absorbing it all.
I think Barcena is actually Barcelona.
I will mention one thing at this point though. In the details for Blomberg f. Higuera, Maria Luz. What are the Christian names. Is it Maria Luz f. HIGUERA? and at the end of this info it says Unmarried women. Aren't these the death details?
I suppose when I get through all this I would like to not only go further back but find the relatives of Ake and any living.
Larry
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Hi
Her name was Maria Luz Higuera. The "f" is "b" for born. I forgot to change it, sorry. So it should read Blomberg b. Higuera, Maria Luz.
There is a Barcena in Spain.
Ian
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Ian
Ok then Barcena it is then. And am i reading it wrong when it says she is an unmarried woman at the time of her death?
Larry
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Hi
According to her death record it does state that she was unmarried but in the snippet I posted it says that Åke and Maria Luz married 13 April 1928.
Ian
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Ian,
Thank-you for the information
Pat
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Accoring to this:
http://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Oke
Oke could be a nick name for Olaf.
Swedish censuses are online to 1910:
http://sok.riksarkivet.se/folkrakningar?Fornamn=ol*&Efternamn=Blomberg&DatumFran=&DatumTill=&Fodelseforsamling=&Folk1860=false&Folk1870=false&Folk1880=false&Folk1890=false&Folk1900=false&Folk1910=true&Folk1910=false&Lan=&Hemforsamling=&Fodelselan=&Land=&Yrke=&Hemort=&Kon=&Civilstand=&Faders_efternamn=&AvanceradSok=False
A number of hits for Bloomberg in Argentina:
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Blomberg%20site%3A.ar
Seems there are quite a few there:
http://forebears.co.uk/surnames/blomberg
Since you know where he was born, it should be fairly easy to get a birth record.
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Hi David64
Thanks for jumping in to help. I think we have established that his name is Ake and not Oke as I had thought for so many years.
As to the birth certificate, I would like to get a hold of it however despite me emailing the relative authorities in Buenos Aires I have never received a reply.
I don't see how I could have BLOMBERG relatives in Argentina. To the best of my knowledge with all the recent info, my Grandfather and Grandmother only had one child which was Adolfo (Bob) while they were in Argentina. Also my Grandmother was born in Spain and not Argentina which I had also thought for many years.
I am still going over the info which Jamcat95 sent me.
Larry
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1900 Census for Ernst Rickard Blomberg and Family (brother of Adolf Reinhold Blomberg)
Blomberg, Ernst Rikard b. 1864 - Father
Österlund, Anna Elisabet b. 1864 - Mother
Siri Elisabet b. 1897 - Child
Here is the grave plan for Ernst Rickard Blomberg and family:
http://www.svenskagravar.se/index.php/visa_gravsatt/?ID=130010484&LOPNR=20366&FOR_NAMN=ernst&EFTER_NAMN=blomberg&FNAMN_SELTYPE=E&ENAMN_SELTYPE=E&KGARD_SELTYPE=S&GRAV_NR_SELTYPE=E&ORDER_BY=Fornamn&ORDER_DIRECTION=ASCENDING
(click on "Visa alla gravsatta i denna grav »" to see the persons in the grave if not already showing).
Ian
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Hi Ian
Thanks so much for the continued info. I have no way of finding it myself. I have only just completed going over the previous info, sorting it out and grabbing some pics of sites etc. I would really like to see if I can find anyone living as well as go back in history. The thought of having some living relatives in Sweden is exciting as we will be visiting Sweden mid 2015.
Have you had a chance to look at the Blombergs in my tree?
Thanks Ian
Larry
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Hi Larry
You're welcome.
I have traced the Blomberg family as far back as (so far) 1822. As for the family of today, it is a little trickier. But I am looking. Siri Elisabeth didn't get married. I will have to see if there are more siblings.
I can say though that it looks as though the name Blomberg is a soldier's name. Adolf Reinhold and his father Carl Reinhold were was in the musical regiment. So both were musicians... the oboe and harmonica.
I will keep digging.
Ian
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Have you had a chance to look at the Blombergs in my tree?
Yes I have. We'll have to make sure we get that tree filled.
Ian
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Correction:
Adolf Reinhold was not a soldier, he was a postmaster in the Post Office.
Ian
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Hi Ian
That is so interesting. I am working on the recent info you sent me. But what does this mean? -
Gravrättstid: 1902-12-27 - forever. On the graves site for his family. I can't see which cemetery it is though.
Larry
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I have him as a Mail Clerk. I would have got that info from what you have sent me I'm sure.
Larry
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But what does this mean? - Gravrättstid: 1902-12-27 - forever. On the graves site for his family. I can't see which cemetery it is though.
This means that someone has paid for the grave to be always taken care of.
Ian
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I missed your question...
The cemetry is in Linköping.
The link is on the right side of the page: "Linköpings kyrkliga samfällighet"...
http://www.svklin.se/In-english.html
The English button is at the bottom of the page.
Ian
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Even with Google Translate I still get a little lost
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Even with Google Translate I still get a little lost
Just ask what you need help with and I will help you.
Ian
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Here is a portrait of Adolf Reinhold Blomberg as a postmaster (he was higher than a clerk, probably the master of the office):
http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/011014748012?count=146&display=map&classification_system=OU&classification_title=Fotografering&page=2&search_context=1&classification=215&pos=37
Also:
A noble tree for Ebba Adlerstam (Tab 6):
http://www.adelsvapen.com/genealogi/Adlerstam_nr_2057
Ian
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Here is John Åke's family:
Parents:
Adolf Reinhold Blomberg
Ebba Stefani Adlerstam
Siblings:
Adolf Hugo Pontus Blomberg
Ernst Ragnar Linus Maximilian Blomberg
John Åke Viktor Blomberg
Ian
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Here is Adolf Reinhold's family:
Parents:
Carl Reinhold Blomberg
Britta Christina Ringqvist
Siblings:
Adolf Reinhold Blomberg
Ernst Rikard Blomberg
Ian
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Here is Carl Reinhold's family
Parent:
Anna Stina Blomberg
Siblings:
Carl Reinhold Blomberg
Fredrik Wilhelm
Johan
Ian
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Here is Anna Stina's family
Parents:
Magnus Blomberg b. 1774
Stina Lisa Berggren
Siblings:
Carl Jacob Blomberg
Anna Stina Blomberg b. 1796
(Twins)
Ian
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Hi Larry
I haven't heard from you for a while. You had problems with your email address a while ago. I have also sent a PM.
Ian