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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: collier19 on Sunday 30 November 14 08:15 GMT (UK)
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Trying to find out where Thomas Burrows b 1775-1838 and his brother, John b 1769 came from. Both lived and died in London but from the 1841 census, I know that John was not born in Middlesex. Thomas was a wealthy corn factor and a member of the Corn Exchange; John was a major in the army. I have found a lot of information about their lives and descendants, but I just can't find out where they were born. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Hi collier19 :)
I see you haven't posted this on any other county boards, so do you have a reason to think they came from Oxfordshire?
For a nominal charge, Oxfordshire Family History Society will do a baptism look-up via their website. If they can identify a parish, come back here and tell us which one. The chances are that one of us will be able to check the PR transcripts for any more info on this family.
Hope this helps,
Carol
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Thanks, Carol. No, I'm just trying all the counties that I haven't done so far - trouble is that Burrows is not exactly an uncommon name!
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With so little to go on, any suggestions must be highly speculative. How do these match?
John Burrows, baptised 4 Feb 1770 (born 1769?). Thomas Burrows, baptised 2 April 1775. Both St Sepulchre, London. Parents of both - John and Mary.
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I thought they were the right ones until I found the 1841 census for John in which the 'N' is clearly marked - meaning of course that he was not born in Middlesex and therefore couldn't be the St Sepulchre one.
Actually now I've written that what was to stop them being born outwith Middlesex but being baptised there because of familial history!!! Goodness, things work slowly in my brain!
But that still doesn't give me where they were born or who the parents were... maybe India...
Hmmm, thanks, that's given me new ideas.
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John Burrows aged 81 - late Major 57th regiment Is on the 1851 census in Marylebone.
He claims to have been born in Bradwell, Essex
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Oh Lily, you genius thank you SO much!
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Hi Lily
I've searched on ancestry like a demented thing but I can't find the record - can you give me more details?
Thanks
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I found it on Find My Past
Ancestry have incorrectly transcribed his age as 31 instead of 81. So look for John Burrows born 1820 Bradwell, Essex living in Marylebone
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If you were here now you would hear my shouts of "YEEEEEESSSS!" Thank you - I've been looking for him and his brother, my gt etc grandfather for 10 YEARS! Wretched Ancestry and their terrible transcriptions! Wow, this has made my day!!!!
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So glad I could help. Now you've made my day too :)
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John left a will, which may be of interest (1853):
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D14810
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From the London Standard, 25 August 1853:
Deaths:
On the 22nd inst, at Hastings, Sussex, in the 85th year of his age, John Burrows, formerly Major in her Majesty's 57th Regiment of Foot.
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Thank you all so much - this morning I started off hitting my head against the brick wall; now I am so much further.
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He was buried on 24 August 1853 at St Mary in the Castle aged 84
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Ancestry has the will and probate grant from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills on its site, probate was granted 21 November 1853. Will save the TNA's fee if you have access to Ancestry.
The text will take some transcribing though as it's handwritten in a very awkward style compounded by being closely packed together.
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Thanks, Artifis, I do have ancestry and I've found it!
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As John was an officer in the army have you tried searching for archives in the military museum that is applicable as that may give you some extra info & may even pick up on his family
All the very best
Phil
Weston-super-Mare
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Thanks, Phil, I'll try. I'm now trying to trace the Burrows family in Bradwell as suggested earlier - however there are two Bradwells in Essex which is making life difficult!
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Don't want to add to your woes or anything, but the Essex Burrowses (I'm a Burrows, descended from an Essex line) appear to have been infected with non-conformity, which makes tracing them a whole lot more difficult.
It really shouldn't have been allowed, you know!
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Thanks, jbml, only one reply to that: AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Yeah ... I've uttered that response a few times myself.
Happy New Year, in any event :)
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Thanks, jbml, and a Happy New Year to you too. :)