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Title: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Monday 01 December 14 08:56 GMT (UK)
http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/john-grenham-irish-roots-1.2017344
National Library of Ireland Parish Records online soon
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: conahy calling on Monday 01 December 14 09:02 GMT (UK)
Definitely looking forward to that.  Wonderful news.  Thanks for posting. :)
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: pet50ite on Monday 01 December 14 11:04 GMT (UK)
I can't wait ;D thank you so much for letting us know sinann
Pet50ite
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Monday 01 December 14 13:47 GMT (UK)
Confirmation from the NLI on release of records.
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2014/12/national-library-confirms-plans-to.html
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Monday 01 December 14 17:15 GMT (UK)
They won't be indexed or transcribed so we'll need to continue using Roots Ireland to narrow the search down.


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: eadaoin on Monday 01 December 14 23:08 GMT (UK)
They won't be indexed or transcribed so we'll need to continue using Roots Ireland to narrow the search down.

but no worse than having to scroll through microfilm?
no need to go out in the cold for access!

eadaoin
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: frostyknight on Monday 01 December 14 23:31 GMT (UK)
Wonderful news! :D Lets hope nothing happens to spoil this. Frostyknight
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 02 December 14 00:13 GMT (UK)
Sinann,

Thanks for the "heads up"........................Irish Lottery equivalent !!! ;D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: crowsfeet on Tuesday 02 December 14 01:21 GMT (UK)
How exciting, and thank you.

I feel encouraged to start looking for the Irish side of my heritage.

Umm. When is summer in Ireland? Being an upside downer I'm not sure when to get excited?

Regards Crowsfeet
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Nettie on Tuesday 02 December 14 01:47 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the info, Sinann!




Umm. When is summer in Ireland? Being an upside downer I'm not sure when to get excited?

Regards Crowsfeet

I'm an upside-downer too, Crowsfeet, but in my experience, the Irish summer is usually a Wednesday in late July...lol.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: glensman on Tuesday 02 December 14 09:45 GMT (UK)
One of the irritations of the R. C. records on microfilm in PRONI is that many are curiously arranged with the title after the record.  This can be frustrating on a film with a large number of records divided into sections by date, type of record and parish.  You see the record and then have to go to the end to discover what it is you are viewing.  Sometimes I start at the end and work backwards but this can be confusing (easily done in my case).

So I wonder if NLI's digitised version will be set out properly.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: eadaoin on Tuesday 02 December 14 14:03 GMT (UK)
So I wonder if NLI's digitised version will be set out properly.

I don't think they're digitising them.
Just reread John Grenham in the Irish Times Monday - looks as if you'll have to scroll through them, or have I misread this?

eadaoin
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: glensman on Tuesday 02 December 14 16:12 GMT (UK)
Eadaoin

I suppose it depends what one means by digitising. The NLI press release refers to their digitisation project which in this case means 390,000 digital images of the microfilms which will be searchable by parish only.  I just hope that the record title comes before the record.  This unfortunately is not the case in many (all?) of the PRONI R.C. microfilms.

Whatever happens, it will be wonderful to have them online.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: artisann on Tuesday 02 December 14 18:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sinann ...for the info....brill news
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 07 January 15 00:48 GMT (UK)
Very interesting read regarding the forthcoming release of the parish records.
Paul Gorry's piece well worth reading.
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2015/01/rc-registers-online-different.html
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 19 April 15 07:25 BST (UK)
In case anyone is getting too excited.
This link give a good idea what these records are going to be like.
Includes photos of some of some images
http://www.from-ireland.net/irish-roman-catholic-parish-records-images/
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Sunday 19 April 15 09:26 BST (UK)
Yes straight away I thought it sounded more difficult to use than some people will think.


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 19 April 15 09:45 BST (UK)

I use the RC records regularly in PRONI and can confirm they are tricky to use. Often faded, badly written, out of order, entries that are upside down, filmed backwards, with gaps, and many of the earlier ones are entirely in Latin. And since there isn’t any index (and won’t be on the National Library on-line site), if you don’t know where in Ireland your ancestor originated, they probably won’t help at all.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: healyjfch on Monday 20 April 15 22:10 BST (UK)
Looking forward to be able to see Roman Catholic Records on line
I have seen the Microfilm version of a parish, some of the handwriting is difficult to read.
The faded ones are the worst.

Some priests wrote the Fee paid !

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hasta on Wednesday 29 April 15 14:48 BST (UK)
Release date confirmed by NLI as 8th July. :)
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2015/04/nli-announces-date-for-launch-of-rc.html

I searched south Dublin records (Blackrock, Dun Laoghaire, Cabinteely) in NLI and they were in fantastic condition, really readable. The 1860's St Michaels, Dun Laoghaire in particular were meticulous. The priest had drawn little maps of all the areas he was responsible for. Each entry had it's own reference number and at the end of each year he had done a tally of records for every name. So for instance the name I was looking for was Hughes, so you could go to the end of each year and see the number of HUGHES baptisms and marriages that year and the reference number to find each. Brilliant ! The Wexford records I was interested in were a different thing altogether - I could hardly tell if I had the page upside down or back to front !
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 29 April 15 14:54 BST (UK)
Hopefully Ancestry will make this collection searchable as they already do with their links to various external records.


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: healyjfch on Wednesday 29 April 15 16:16 BST (UK)
I have looked at a few parishes micofilm records in County Kilkenny
Some of the early Baptismal records have mothers names as Mrs, no maiden name given.
I saw a record that had Widow Kelly as mother, no first name for father or mother.
Not all have addresses either, mostly townland and street where it is given.

One bonus I found was marriage details written at baptismal record.
Stating spouses name and Parish where marriage took place.







Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 29 April 15 17:18 BST (UK)
Release date confirmed by NLI as 8th July. :)
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2015/04/nli-announces-date-for-launch-of-rc.html


A date a date we have a date YIPEEEE

Should be noted it says from the 8th onwards

But we have a date😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Joney on Sunday 03 May 15 20:29 BST (UK)
I second the YIPEEEE !
 It's good to hear that there were some obviously enthusiastic record keepers among the parish priests. Noting marriages against baptism entries and even helpfully noting the address in the margin is always good to see. A lot of English birth registrations in the 1850s don't have house numbers on them either in my experience. The registrars don't seem to think it matters. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the parishes I'm interested in had priests who were as keen on keeping the registers as we are on reading them ;D

I have an LDS film of Catholic registers of Termonfeckin, County Louth which is mostly illegible to me.  My cousin bought it from PRONI after the then parish priest gave permission in the early 1990s, but only the researcher she paid was able to make out any of it.  The register appeared water-damaged and some images were just out of focus.
My hope is that at home on a computer I will be able to enlarge  images much more easily and make sense of more of what was recorded.

So it's stll fingers crossed, but getting closer at least.
Joan
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: glensman on Monday 04 May 15 15:34 BST (UK)
John Grenham's blog puts the soon-to-be online R.C. records in a very positive light:

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/irishroots/
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Monday 04 May 15 17:01 BST (UK)
John Grenham's blog puts the soon-to-be online R.C. records in a very positive light:

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/irishroots/
Thanks for that,
I like the sound of the map.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: LizzieW on Monday 04 May 15 17:04 BST (UK)
Hopefully I'll be able to find info on my husband's Irish ancestors prior to 1841 when they are in England.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Monday 04 May 15 18:03 BST (UK)
I feel sorry for the county centres but when a better way of accessing records comes along it's a good thing. Fingers crossed for a search facility to be added by a third party as soon as possible so it's more user friendly.


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Deirdre784 on Monday 04 May 15 18:55 BST (UK)
Hopefully I'll be able to find info on my husband's Irish ancestors prior to 1841 when they are in England.

Unfortunately my ancestors appeared in 1861 from 'Ireland' and had died by 1871 so don't think they'll be much help to me :(
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 02 July 15 21:51 BST (UK)
6 more sleeps until the NLI Santa arrives :D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Thursday 02 July 15 23:29 BST (UK)
Hopefully another Santa will bring us a search facility for it in the near future.


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Friday 03 July 15 04:42 BST (UK)
They were going to release them in the summer but decided to release them 8th July instead....  :-))
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: dawnsh on Friday 03 July 15 09:25 BST (UK)
So, do I stand any chance of finding a baptism for John Sherry born Dublin circa 1792 according to the 1851 census where he ended up in Paddington/Marylebone?
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Friday 03 July 15 09:46 BST (UK)
Possibly, IF records exist for those dates at whatever church he was baptised!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Friday 03 July 15 09:47 BST (UK)
6 more sleeps until the NLI Santa arrives :D

OH!  You mean you'll sleep that night when they are due for release ????
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: dawnsh on Friday 03 July 15 10:18 BST (UK)
How long will it be before the site crashes when they go live?  :P
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Friday 03 July 15 11:55 BST (UK)
6 more sleeps until the NLI Santa arrives :D

OH!  You mean you'll sleep that night when they are due for release ????

Santa doesn't visit if you don't sleep, I wouldn't want to jinks it.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Friday 03 July 15 14:37 BST (UK)
With 390,000 images I'm wondering how many records it will contain given the population it has to cover over time..... can't sleep for wondering!  :-))

Rootschat etc will be mad busy with people trying to figure out handwriting etc.... thank goodness one can get 2 pairs of specs for the price of one!!

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jjtjr on Monday 06 July 15 15:18 BST (UK)
I'm just hoping that I will be able to find a few older records that RootsIreland.ie has missed.

It won't be fun trying to make sense of the records, until I viewed some old Irish transcripts, I never knew that my bad hand-writing was an Irish trait!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Monday 06 July 15 15:27 BST (UK)
I'm just hoping that I will be able to find a few older records that RootsIreland.ie has missed.

I'm just hoping .......
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Monday 06 July 15 17:37 BST (UK)
I'm just hoping that I will be able to find a few older records that RootsIreland.ie has missed.

I'm just hoping .......

RootsIreland haven't even touched one of my lots parish yet so I should be on a winner. All fingers and toes firmly crossed.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Monday 06 July 15 17:40 BST (UK)
Maybe they'll decide to save money and cancel them, then send the money to our needy EU neighbours in Greece??

heheheee...
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jc26red on Monday 06 July 15 21:07 BST (UK)
Now this may be a silly question after all the excitement and waiting.... Fingers and toes are crossed for tomorrow.

Does anyone know how access to the NLI RC records will be made available? I haven't found a "watch this space" for a link yet  :-\
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Monday 06 July 15 21:13 BST (UK)
Now this may be a silly question after all the excitement and waiting.... Fingers and toes are crossed for tomorrow.

Does anyone know how access to the NLI RC records will be made available? I haven't found a "watch this space" for a link yet  :-\

Just under 27 hours from now, it has been posted a few times.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jc26red on Monday 06 July 15 22:23 BST (UK)
thank you Hallmark, I've known the date for sometime.

Its a link to where the parish records are going to be posted as I'm uncertain whether its directly on the NLI website or elsewhere.

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Monday 06 July 15 22:26 BST (UK)
Now this may be a silly question after all the excitement and waiting.... Fingers and toes are crossed for tomorrow.

Does anyone know how access to the NLI RC records will be made available? I haven't found a "watch this space" for a link yet  :-\
No I haven't a clue. I expect Claire Santry will have a link on her blog
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sinann on Monday 06 July 15 22:35 BST (UK)
Looks like the name of the site will be Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI.

http://www.nli.ie/en/list/latest-news.aspx?article=cfde02b0-12f7-422f-96ce-6ab8e7e42cac
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jc26red on Monday 06 July 15 22:48 BST (UK)
Thank you Sinann, that may well be a good place to go first as it looks like its already setup waiting for the link to be added.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Monday 06 July 15 23:11 BST (UK)
thank you Hallmark, I've known the date for sometime.

Its a link to where the parish records are going to be posted as I'm uncertain whether its directly on the NLI website or elsewhere.

No direct link yet, they have been testing them on line for a while, just like the Census, which everyone was announcing was live early even though it wasn't,  but what the actual URL will be on the day I don't know.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 09:07 BST (UK)
We've to wait 'til 2 O'Clock  :'(

http://www.nli.ie/en/list/latest-news.aspx?article=870991de-5fc7-4bba-8025-2f14e920b970

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: california dreamin on Wednesday 08 July 15 09:09 BST (UK)
Hi Tara

Many thanks for this news.  I have been anxiously watching and waiting.   ::)   I'm afraid there will be so many of us trying to access the records straight away the site will go down and soon as it is up!

CD
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 09:12 BST (UK)
HA

I'm up since 5 !

Am I Mad  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Wednesday 08 July 15 09:15 BST (UK)
We've to wait 'til 2 O'Clock  :'(

http://www.nli.ie/en/list/latest-news.aspx?article=870991de-5fc7-4bba-8025-2f14e920b970

Tara

Bah!

I'm at work anyway - was hoping for a little look over lunch.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 09:19 BST (UK)
I think we've to wait for our illustrious politicians to have a party and then press the button to make it go live  ::)

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jc26red on Wednesday 08 July 15 09:33 BST (UK)
I guess the "guests" and press will be given the opportunity to play with the new website before it goes live.... Can't have the headlines "new "Catholic Parish registers at the NLI" website crashes within minutes" can they.  ;D

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 10:50 BST (UK)
I think we've to wait for our illustrious politicians to have a party and then press the button to make it go live  ::)

Tara

Will it be like the Millenium clock in River Liffey.... that didn't last long  :-)
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 10:52 BST (UK)
HA

I'm up since 5 !

Am I Mad  ;D

Tara


You will probably fall asleep at 1:59 p.m.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Deirdre784 on Wednesday 08 July 15 11:53 BST (UK)
What do you reckon on my chances of finding my great great grandparents who were from 'Ireland' in 1861 (sadly both had died by 1871 so are only on the one census in Cardiff).

But I know both their names, and a time frame as my great grandmother was born in Cardiff in 1857 and her older sister in Ireland around 1855.

Ages are a bit sketchy - my gg g'mother was 40 in 1861, but 38 on her death cert in June 1866 and 37 when she was buried the following day. My gg g'father was 45 in 1861, 55 when he died in 1869 and 53 when he was buried.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:05 BST (UK)
Well there are just under 400,000 scans, covering quite a few years and given the populations and number of RC's it will only cover a %age of them, so it is down to luck!!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: glensman on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:09 BST (UK)
Deirdre784

To have any hope of finding them you will need to know where in Ireland they came from by townland/parish.  Even if you know that then it becomes a matter of whether that parish has records as far back as the 1820s - many have not. Then you have to hope that the records are legible and many are not.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:20 BST (UK)
Summer is your winter.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:38 BST (UK)
UGH

The radio was driving me barmy this morning as they kept saying "Oh you'll be able to trace you family back 300 years"

I WISH   ::)

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:40 BST (UK)
Deirdre784

Have you posted your query on this family on a board here ?

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:46 BST (UK)
This is probably to the moderator but maybe you guys in general can answer this or make suggestions:

We all know that this forum is going to be inundated with questions re the registers and I reckon the threads will be all over the place.

Does anyone think, in time, it might be a good idea to set up individual boards for each church ie Dublin would have a seperate board for each of it's churches and so on for each county where people could answer on their experiences of reading the records for that church.

I just worry that otherwise we will keep getting asked the same questions over and over ie How far do the records for this church go back, how recent are the records, how legible are the records, what extra info is on the register, missing years etc etc etc

Anyone think this is a good idea or am I overthinking it ?

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:55 BST (UK)
Thee records are online now :D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 12:58 BST (UK)
YIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:02 BST (UK)
Even if one did that people will just come on here and post. How many even look at the Resources Board to even find out what is available?

Many don't even look kin up on Census so others have to do it for them or say they found them on Census but won't say where or post the link!

Many say they have this record but won't say what are the details on it.... in fact many just post and then let others do the work for them!  and many expect that!!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:02 BST (UK)
Thee records are online now :D


...and the link is ?????????
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:03 BST (UK)
It's excellent that these are now available but I fear there will be disappointment at the state of the records and the years covered.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:05 BST (UK)
nli.ie bring you straight into the site

BUT

it's just buffering  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:06 BST (UK)
On line at

http://registers.nli.ie/
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Deirdre784 on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:08 BST (UK)
Deirdre784

Have you posted your query on this family on a board here ?

Tara

Hi Tara, no as I have so little to go on. Will see if the new records throw anything up and if nothing then I'll post on here (maybe the surnames are popular in certain areas :) )

Deirdre
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:09 BST (UK)
I know Hallmark,

It's for that very reason that I was thinking of it.

I dread the forum being filled up with same incessant questions.

I could be wrong though ~ AH Aren't I naive ?  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:12 BST (UK)
You are naive!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:26 BST (UK)
http://registers.nli.ie/

Is it just me..................not the easiest site to use  ::)

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:29 BST (UK)
Having been to Dublin to view the records, I'm finding these so much easier to navigate and read.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:31 BST (UK)
I'm only in one church so far but LOVING it !

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Deirdre784 on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:34 BST (UK)
But you need to know the parish name, so I've not got a hope  :'(
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:37 BST (UK)
Deirdre you need to put what you have on this family on a new thread on Ireland General.

Put ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that you have on them no matter how small.

Hopefully someone will help you when we've gotten off NLI  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:44 BST (UK)
I'm only in one church so far but LOVING it !

I've found the page but don't know how to enlarge to read  ???

Annie

ADDED..............of the area marriages I want to look at  ;)
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:46 BST (UK)
Managed to have a brief look over lunch, still no joy yet with finding the ever-annoying Michael Maher in Mullingar!

Wonder if I can get out of the BBQ I'm supposed to be going to tonight so I can spend the evening on the computer  ;)
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:46 BST (UK)
Every crumb helps... recently I eventually extracted FULL details from someone who had been searching for a person for 12 years!

They just kept posting Co. Sligo... eventually when they sent me stuff, ONE word in what they had told me exactly where they were and in 12  minutes (not years!) I had their grave location, marriage and a pile of other stuff!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:51 BST (UK)
I'm only in one church so far but LOVING it !

I've found the page but don't know how to enlarge to read  ???

Annie

ADDED..............of the area marriages I want to look at  ;)


Click on the  +  to enlarge
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:52 BST (UK)
I've found the page but don't know how to enlarge to read  ???

ADDED..............of the area marriages I want to look at  ;)

This is the page I'm on but can't enlarge it to read any of them.....any help would be great  ;D

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632461#page/1/mode/1up

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:54 BST (UK)
Click on the  +  to enlarge

Can't see the + to do it  ???

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:55 BST (UK)
I've found the page but don't know how to enlarge to read  ???

ADDED..............of the area marriages I want to look at  ;)

This is the page I'm on but can't enlarge it to read any of them.....any help would be great  ;D

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632461#page/1/mode/1up

Annie


Click on the   +  to enlarge!!

It's there in front of you....
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:56 BST (UK)
to right of               Filter Events/Dates!!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 08 July 15 13:57 BST (UK)
+ print etc are above image box
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 14:00 BST (UK)
to right of               Filter Events/Dates!!

Thanks Hallmark,

Nothing like that on the page on my comp.

I think I may have a problem with acrobat reader or something......too technical to know for sure  ???

Annie

ADDED..........bearkat, I don't see any of the choices you both have given, only the images  ???
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 08 July 15 14:34 BST (UK)
Are you able to try using a different browser?
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Deirdre784 on Wednesday 08 July 15 14:45 BST (UK)
Hopefully someone will help you when we've gotten off NLI  ;D

That's why I thought I'd give it a while before posting as I can imagine most of you will spend days / weeks on the NLI  ;D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: atmartinas on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:00 BST (UK)
http://registers.nli.ie/

Is it just me..................not the easiest site to use  ::)

Annie

Maybe its you Annie, I think its great so much easier than microfilm reader e.g. you can search for and go to the year and month you want. I love it.
M
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:04 BST (UK)
. . . AND I haven't gotten sick yet !

Those microfilm readers make me SOOOO ill  :o

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:06 BST (UK)
to right of               Filter Events/Dates!!

Thanks Hallmark,

Nothing like that on the page on my comp.

I think I may have a problem with acrobat reader or something......too technical to know for sure  ???

Annie

ADDED..........bearkat, I don't see any of the choices you both have given, only the images  ???

nothing to do with Acrobat.. the images are on screen and just above images there are several features to enlarge/brighten etc..

OK... maybe when you go to whatever Parish you get the opening page with small images and details of dates??

You have to then click on whichever image matches the dates you want, then that Image opens on screen!!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:10 BST (UK)
I've found the page but don't know how to enlarge to read  ???

ADDED..............of the area marriages I want to look at  ;)

This is the page I'm on but can't enlarge it to read any of them.....any help would be great  ;D

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632461#page/1/mode/1up

Annie


You need to click on the image you want to then open it...

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Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:13 BST (UK)
Enlarge..

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Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: atmartinas on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:25 BST (UK)
Excellent guidance Hallmark, Annie don't give up, its worth the effort.

Tara, I am quite the novice and don't know for sure but I met a lady in Wexford library when I was looking at registers there, she had come down from Dubln she said they had more on Microfilm for some Wexford parishes than the NLI, looks like that may be the case for other parishes from what you are finding. Shame, I had hoped never to have to get dizzy whizzing back and forward on the microfilm always missing the date I needed!

M
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:27 BST (UK)
Are you able to try using a different browser?

Thanks bearkat,

Much appreciated that......working fine now thankfully  ;D

Annie

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:36 BST (UK)
Enlarge...

Hallmark..................I did say there were no choices showing up on my screen  ;D

I took bearkats advice & used another browser so all is fine now  ;D

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:38 BST (UK)
I'm sure rootsireland are sighing with relief that people will still need to go to them for a lot of records.

I won't knock them as I really have gotten great records off them.

I was hoping today to get the images off NLI to match the transcripts that I bought off rootsireland but so far I'm not having much luck but am enjoying the search nonetheless !

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:39 BST (UK)
I was hoping today to get the images off NLI to match the transcripts that I bought off rootsireland but so far I'm not having much luck but am enjoying the search nonetheless !

Tara




One success so far.

Handwritten index 'modern transcription', also available to view on the site today and clearly showing McLune surname, which I had known about for some years now (courtesy of UHF), but had always believed person was more likely a McClure -  now also being able to view and compare with original handwritten entry on register page, it is clear first four letters on that are McCl not McLu and sixth looks more likely to be an 'r', so I now consider it to indeed be McClure.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:40 BST (UK)
Well Done Scotmum

'Tis perfect for detective work like that !

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:46 BST (UK)
They won't be indexed or transcribed so we'll need to continue using Roots Ireland to narrow the search down.

Hi Blue,

Does that mean that anything which is not on rootsireland won't be on the new site (mine isn't on rootsireland)  ???

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:48 BST (UK)
Well Done Scotmum

'Tis perfect for detective work like that !

Tara

Yes, just a pity the site I originally paid for details seem to have used the 'modern transcript' entry, as if they had used the original, I think it would have been obvious it was different.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jc26red on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:49 BST (UK)
Having been to Dublin to view the records, I'm finding these so much easier to navigate and read.

Me too though I am going through the ones I am certain of first.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:50 BST (UK)
They won't be indexed or transcribed so we'll need to continue using Roots Ireland to narrow the search down.

Hi Blue,

Does that mean that anything which is not on rootsireland won't be on the new site (mine isn't on rootsireland)  ???

Annie

Some of the 'modern transcripts' are actually available to view on the new site today too, but remember to take the transcripts with 'a pinch of salt' and compare for yourself with the original.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:53 BST (UK)
I might have found one.

1901 born 1873
1911 born 1863

Found a baptism 1867  :-\. Mmm....  :D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 15:55 BST (UK)
Enlarge...

Hallmark..................I did say there were no choices showing up on my screen  ;D

I took bearkats advice & used another browser so all is fine now  ;D

Annie

No problem,  at least you are sorted.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 16:05 BST (UK)
Annie

Do you know the parish ?

Is that parish not on rootsireland and THAT's the issue that you have OR that it's not in the parish that you thought it would be.

As far as I know NLI has ALL the parishes, I could be wrong with that though.

If it's the second issue then it could not show on rootsireland for a mistranscription or fading issue.

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 16:06 BST (UK)
Some of the 'modern transcripts' are actually available to view on the new site today too, but remember to take the transcripts with 'a pinch of salt' and compare for yourself with the original.

I have been unable to source an original as I couldn't find the marriage on rootsireland nor when I visited the local registry when I was in Ireland a few years ago.

Cost me quite a few Euro's & came out with nothing  :(

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 16:17 BST (UK)
Do you know the parish ?
Is that parish not on rootsireland and THAT's the issue that you have OR that it's not in the parish that you thought it would be.

As far as I know NLI has ALL the parishes, I could be wrong with that though.

If it's the second issue then it could not show on rootsireland for a mistranscription or fading issue.

Tara,

All I had when I went to the local office in Ireland was both names & date for marriage c 1832 & that the info. from census had their kids born Derry............1st born c 1834

I had the woman searching for the marriage & all 5 kids ranging from c (1834 - 1844) give a couple of years but nothing showed up but cost a fair bit for the searches.

Now that this site is online I can check other areas close to Derry  ???

My geographical knowledge of Ireland is 0  :-[

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 16:38 BST (UK)
Quote
All I had when I went to the local office in Ireland was both names & date for marriage c 1832 & that the info. from census had their kids born Derry............1st born c 1834
 

Annie

The info from what Census?
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Wednesday 08 July 15 16:39 BST (UK)
The images of the originally typewritten books have a last column "page number".

Would anyone know what this page number refers to? Does it cross reference to a handwritten volume?
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 08 July 15 17:12 BST (UK)
This is probably to the moderator but maybe you guys in general can answer this or make suggestions:

We all know that this forum is going to be inundated with questions re the registers and I reckon the threads will be all over the place.

Does anyone think, in time, it might be a good idea to set up individual boards for each church ie Dublin would have a seperate board for each of it's churches and so on for each county where people could answer on their experiences of reading the records for that church.

I just worry that otherwise we will keep getting asked the same questions over and over ie How far do the records for this church go back, how recent are the records, how legible are the records, what extra info is on the register, missing years etc etc etc

Anyone think this is a good idea or am I overthinking it ?

Tara

Hi Tara

Rootschat doesn't have the spare capacity of boards to do what you suggest.

I'm sure you and all the regulars will work with KarenM (moderator) to keep the board tidy and tactfully point people in the right direction when they start asking questions.

Dawn
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 08 July 15 17:32 BST (UK)
My husband's ancestors came from Dublin according to English census, but I know nothing about Dublin.  I guess there are lots of parishes, so I'll just search through them all until I find the family.  More important really is what happened to my husband's 2 x g.grandfather after the mid 1850s when he seems to have disappeared, he was living in Manchester at the time.  He probably died, but with a common name and too many certs to buy I've given up on him for the moment.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: zx123 on Wednesday 08 July 15 18:48 BST (UK)
I'm a bit disappointed so far. The only records I have found are the same as the ones they have on https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/. It's strange because I found a transcript of a marriage of one of my ancestors on the family search website and it had a lot more information on it. I was hoping to see a copy of that but no luck so far.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jjtjr on Wednesday 08 July 15 20:05 BST (UK)
I like the website.

I think that it is very well laid out and easy to navigate.

I especially like that you can either print the record, or download it to your computer.

I do wish that they had put more Pariah Records online, hopefully they will in the future.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 08 July 15 20:43 BST (UK)
They've done a good job it's a nice site. I found it a bit tricky at first finding an image for a transcript I had because of the various names for each parish but the map layout made it easy to resolve that. It will need a search to benefit beginners and general searches to try to find those "born in Ireland" ancestors. I was aware of the limited coverage of certain parishes and this will be a disappointment to many people who were not aware of the coverage dates.


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 08 July 15 20:51 BST (UK)
I think the site works well and it hasn't crashed.

Is there a list of parishes with coverage anywhere? Or is it just a case of clicking on each parish and seeing what has been put online?

Are there any other records available or is that it, apart from more recent records?
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: conahy calling on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:11 BST (UK)
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/

This link tells you what records are available for each parish.

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: McShane1 on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:12 BST (UK)
I am finding the new church registers website slow and I have not been able to view any of the registers.  When I click on a microfilm I get a white screen and the cursor going around in circles......I am so disappointed...........Am I the only one who is having technical problems accessing the images?  McShane01
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:15 BST (UK)
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/

This link tells you what records are available for each parish.

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:15 BST (UK)
Quote
All I had when I went to the local office in Ireland was both names & date for marriage c 1832 & that the info. from census had their kids born Derry............1st born c 1834

The info from what Census?

Hallmark,

The 1861 onwards in Scotland where they came to live & how I came to be  ;D

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:27 BST (UK)
Quote
All I had when I went to the local office in Ireland was both names & date for marriage c 1832 & that the info. from census had their kids born Derry............1st born c 1834

The info from what Census?

Hallmark,

The 1861 onwards in Scotland where they came to live & how I came to be  ;D

Annie

Were the Parents alive in 1907 and did they apply for Old Age Pension?
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:30 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn

Thanks for the answer !

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:35 BST (UK)
Quote
All I had when I went to the local office in Ireland was both names & date for marriage c 1832 & that the info. from census had their kids born Derry............1st born c 1834

The info from what Census?

Hallmark,

The 1861 onwards in Scotland where they came to live & how I came to be  ;D

Were the Parents alive in 1907 and did they apply for Old Age Pension?

No......... unfortunately my g x 3 grandmother died (I think) in Ireland prior to 1851 census as he was a widower (had them looking for that too while I was in Ireland)

My g x 3 grandfather died 1865.

Annie
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 21:48 BST (UK)
Quote
All I had when I went to the local office in Ireland was both names & date for marriage c 1832 & that the info. from census had their kids born Derry............1st born c 1834

The info from what Census?

Hallmark,

The 1861 onwards in Scotland where they came to live & how I came to be  ;D

Were the Parents alive in 1907 and did they apply for Old Age Pension?

No......... unfortunately my g x 3 grandmother died (I think) in Ireland prior to 1851 census as he was a widower (had them looking for that too while I was in Ireland)

My g x 3 grandfather died 1865.

Annie

Did any of their children apply for OAP when they were 70??
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Wednesday 08 July 15 22:09 BST (UK)
I am finding the new church registers website slow and I have not been able to view any of the registers.  When I click on a microfilm I get a white screen and the cursor going around in circles......I am so disappointed...........Am I the only one who is having technical problems accessing the images?  McShane01

It may help to try a different browser - I've been using Firefox and haven't found any issues. Obviously the world and his wife will be on there just now which may slow things down a bit.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Thursday 09 July 15 00:32 BST (UK)
It's tempting to scroll through page after page for hours but go easy on your eyes folks and take lots of breaks from looking at these images.


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Thursday 09 July 15 16:43 BST (UK)
Blue

PSHT

You sound like my hubby  ::)

I say NO WAY DANNO ~

My eyesight is going anyway, I'm getting cramps in my hands, I'm hunched and stooped and have MAJOR bags under my eyes ~ but I shall keep going  ;D ;D ;D

I'm terrified something will happen like irishgenealogy ~ do you remember back when they released the civil records originally and I was like 'Oh I'll do some more research tomorrow, then BANG It Was Gone'.

So, I've been on here long enough, does that count as a break HA !

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Thursday 09 July 15 23:53 BST (UK)
I don't think any questions will be asked in The Dáil about these records they're all old stuff. Pay to view sites may like to see them disappear but I can't imagine after all the work that has been done that they would be taken down. 


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Thursday 09 July 15 23:59 BST (UK)
I doubt it too.

I may cause a riot if they are  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Mariam82 on Friday 10 July 15 09:44 BST (UK)
Any tips on scrolling through some of this handwriting gratefully received !   Could be a while ....
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 10 July 15 09:59 BST (UK)
VERY slowly and as blown up as you can get it.

If it's a register where the handwriting isn't great then I would just spend a little time looking at just one page.

Take your time getting familiar with the person's handwriting.

Find names that you are sure of, say you find a John and you can see how the person wrote it, then you know how he wrote each of these letters.

Then find another name that you are sure of and mentally take note of how he wrote each of those letters.

If you then find a record that you think might be your ancestor but are having difficulty working it out, look back on the handwriting on other records that you are sure of and start to cross reference each letter.

Hope that makes sense  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 July 15 10:10 BST (UK)
Familiarise yourself with Latin names.
We have a Garrett - baptised as Geraldus.

In another parish set, the townlands are written fairly clearly so I just scrolled down looking for ours and checked the names.  Then I had a rest!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 July 15 20:31 BST (UK)
Quote
All I had when I went to the local office in Ireland was both names & date for marriage c 1832 & that the info. from census had their kids born Derry............1st born c 1834

The info from what Census?

Hallmark,

The 1861 onwards in Scotland where they came to live & how I came to be  ;D

Were the Parents alive in 1907 and did they apply for Old Age Pension?

No......... unfortunately my g x 3 grandmother died (I think) in Ireland prior to 1851 census as he was a widower (had them looking for that too while I was in Ireland)

My g x 3 grandfather died 1865.

Annie

Not what I'm asking.....

WHO would have been 70 in early 1900's?

Did any of THEM alive in early 1900's apply for Pension??

You might get them in 1841 0r 51 Census search forms!!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 10 July 15 20:36 BST (UK)
Familiarise yourself with Latin names.
We have a Garrett - baptised as Geraldus.

In another parish set, the townlands are written fairly clearly so I just scrolled down looking for ours and checked the names.  Then I had a rest!

I expected having to muddle through a good bit of Latin but the 1st 4 registers I've looked at are all completely in English  :)
One priest even wrote in little notes- almost all fathers of illegitimate children names (some with comment 'married man' or 'a free man'), workhouse baptisms of ill babies noted- if only he put in maiden names
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Blue70 on Friday 10 July 15 20:39 BST (UK)
Interesting find here:-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=725223.0


Blue
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 July 15 20:41 BST (UK)
All sorts of stuff in them including "notes" on inside covers etc...
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: frostyknight on Friday 10 July 15 21:57 BST (UK)
"My eyesight is going anyway, I'm getting cramps in my hands, I'm hunched and stooped and have MAJOR bags under my eyes ~ but I shall keep going  ;D ;D ;D" quote


I'm like that for the last couple of days too Tara.

And forget about housework for at least the next week, I'm spending the time in front of the computer screen.  ;D ;D Much more interesting!! ;D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 10 July 15 22:00 BST (UK)
What's housework?

Tomorrow I definitely must do grocery shopping and laundry  ;D
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 10 July 15 22:06 BST (UK)
Oh at least I'm not the only one that's TOTALLY failing at housework and parenthood at the mo  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Friday 10 July 15 22:36 BST (UK)
This might come in handy at some point !

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irishchurches/RC%20Churches/Roman%20Catholic%20churches.html

Tara

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 July 15 00:00 BST (UK)
"My eyesight is going anyway, I'm getting cramps in my hands, I'm hunched and stooped and have MAJOR bags under my eyes ~ but I shall keep going  ;D ;D ;D" quote


I'm like that for the last couple of days too Tara.

And forget about housework for at least the next week, I'm spending the time in front of the computer screen.  ;D ;D Much more interesting!! ;D



So, are you saying "Everything is normal!"  ????
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hurworth on Saturday 11 July 15 00:10 BST (UK)
Isn't it wonderful!   

We'd always assumed that an ancestor who was born in Ireland was Protestant, but then I realised that his sisters, who all remained in Ireland, had Catholic marriages.   I struck it lucky with the parish I started with in the city he was from (I didn't know which parish)....picked a year a couple of years before we think he was born (1790s) and on the 3rd page I found his brother, and a cousin of some sort.  I've since found one sister and another brother.   There's several more to find as we know there were at least 7 (no 7 was called Septimus).

I'm sure than one of the godparents I've found was not Catholic though.   That would be unusual wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Sandgroper on Saturday 11 July 15 08:07 BST (UK)
I have been searching for my great great grandfather Patrick McNamara and his wife Margaret Brohan from County Clare for 25 years. I had no idea whereabouts in County Clare but today I found the baptisms of their children in Scarriff. I'm so happy and hopefully I'll find their marriage too. Well done National Library of Ireland.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: conahy calling on Saturday 11 July 15 08:29 BST (UK)
http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/12/27/can-non-catholics-serve-as-baptismal-sponsors/

Link about Sponsors/godparents at baptism.   

Great to hear that searches have been successful  :)

Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: smudwhisk on Saturday 11 July 15 11:20 BST (UK)
Helping a friend with her research and found that while RootsIreland list 7 baptisms to a couple between 1877 and 1887 in Bray, when I look at the film none of them appear despite it covering all that period. :-\  I could understand the odd one but with all the baptisms missing I'm wondering if RootsIreland have got them listed against the wrong parish.  Residence on all the transcripts is Little Bray, but the NLI don't have a film for that period for baptisms anyway so I can't think its an NLI issue. ???
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: jc26red on Saturday 11 July 15 12:06 BST (UK)
I have found not all the NLI registers are online yet.

A few years ago I was looking for the baptism of my husbands grandmother in 1887.  A "friend" here and elsewhere  ;D popped into the NLI and found her and her family, between 1871-1892.  I then obtained a photocopy from Dublin of her birth cert. As she had changed her name by first name when she came to England, I was never 100% sure it was her.  Roots Ireland now have her baptism with a note saying when, where and whom she married. This confirmed my research but the NLI registers online for Duleek only go up to 1880.
The parents married in Drogheda in 1871, this is on both Roots Ireland and NLI "but" not in the civil marriage index.  :-\   I have been very confused about this for ages but now having seen the baptism of their first son, confirms father was in 40th regiment (2nd Somerset) of foot.  And his birth record is in the GRO regiment index! Grandmother did give her father's occupation as soldier of the Somerset Regiment on her marriage entry but we thought that was just another of her tall stories.

Lesson learnt, check all resources! I have found some very good notes!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 July 15 12:13 BST (UK)
I have found not all the NLI registers are online yet.

A few years ago I was looking for the baptism of my husbands grandmother in 1887.  A "friend" here and elsewhere  ;D popped into the NLI and found her and her family, between 1871-1892.  I then obtained a photocopy from Dublin of her birth cert. As she had changed her name by first name when she came to England, I was never 100% sure it was her.  Roots Ireland now have her baptism with a note saying when, where and whom she married. This confirmed my research but the NLI registers online for Duleek only go up to 1880.
The parents married in Drogheda in 1871, this is on both Roots Ireland and NLI "but" not in the civil marriage index.  :-\   I have been very confused about this for ages but now having seen the baptism of their first son, confirms father was in 40th regiment (2nd Somerset) of foot.  And his birth record is in the GRO regiment index! Grandmother did give her father's occupation as soldier of the Somerset Regiment on her marriage entry but we thought that was just another of her tall stories.

Lesson learnt, check all resources! I have found some very good notes!

All the Registers that NLI have are online... the registers elsewhere are not online as the NLI don't jave them to scan.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 July 15 12:14 BST (UK)
All the Registers that NLI have are online... the registers elsewhere are not online as the NLI don't have them to scan.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 July 15 12:23 BST (UK)

If you go to  http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/#counties

then go to whatever County you need, the click on 'Catholic Records' it shows all the dates

PLUS the dates which ARE at NLI,  with direct link to whichever Parish you want at NLI via the   Image Online    link


It tells you where the rest of the Registers are!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Erin2012 on Wednesday 15 July 15 20:07 BST (UK)
Enjoying the search so far... My eye balls may fall out of the sockets, and I feel a bit frustrated with some of the handwriting, worse about the nearly invisible ink at times and ready to burst at a stong posibility of my gg grandmother baptism ... But the first name is torn from the sheet.

Overall... In spite of these frustrations, I am so thrilled the records are on line.  :)


And love all the priests notes!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 15 July 15 20:42 BST (UK)
When a priest adds a note it"s like winning the jackpot  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Erin2012 on Wednesday 15 July 15 20:47 BST (UK)
Yes! As a history buff as well, it is so fun to read every page.... Who paid and how much...  any type of comment, who lived where...  Loved that one put BASTARD after a name instead of the usual "illegitimate" ...

It all comes alive.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 15 July 15 20:58 BST (UK)
Yup,

Some entries used some choice turns of phrase.

They can be startling to see in print.

Tara
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Thursday 16 July 15 13:25 BST (UK)
I do hope these are indexed at some point - Clare Santry's blog indicates that ancestry and FindMyPast might be involved.  I'm really struggling to read some of the images, keep wishing that the priest had thought to put some ink in his pen!

I have John Maher and Rose Gilligan, several childrens baptisms in Mullingar, but I cannot find a marriage for this couple so far.  I need a few days and nights at this, at least until my eyes give up in protest!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 16 July 15 13:56 BST (UK)

... I have John Maher and Rose Gilligan, several childrens baptisms in Mullingar, but I cannot find a marriage for this couple so far ...


Try 11 April 1847.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Thursday 16 July 15 14:30 BST (UK)
Ooh! In Mullingar? Luckily the NLI website is a neutral one on the tracker we have at work so will take a look if I can't wait until I get home.
Thank you so so much!
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: dathai on Thursday 16 July 15 14:44 BST (UK)
21 April 1847 John Maher to Rose Gilligan (no parents given)
wit
James Maher and Rose Donnelly
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635194#page/90/mode/1up
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 16 July 15 17:39 BST (UK)
21 April 1847 John Maher to Rose Gilligan (no parents given)
wit
James Maher and Rose Donnelly
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635194#page/90/mode/1up

Correct, 21 April, not 11 April, well spotted.
Title: Re: Catholic Parish Records to go online in the Summer
Post by: Lisajb on Monday 20 July 15 15:26 BST (UK)
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/

This link tells you what records are available for each parish.

 I'm looking for Taghmon marriages between 14/5/1848 and 2/9/1868 which are missing from the nli.ie website - before I fork out on a rootsireland subscription, what's the likelihood that those marriages will be there? Going through that link would suggest they're available at rootsireland Westmeath DNSHC.