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Independent Islands => Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark => Topic started by: Daphne Fan on Wednesday 03 December 14 01:55 GMT (UK)
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Hi All,
I have been serching for this lady, Harriet Beamont /Beaumont who would be my 3 x great grand aunt. Last positive record is the 1871 census living at Belmont terrace St Peter Port, aged 65, a bit of a mystery is place of birth (Calutta) but daughter Eliza Jane Beamont (Beaumont) place of birth has been consistent as Brighton Sussex through the censuses.Also a SON Thomas aged 5???
In the 1861 census H.Emily Beamont is residing in Kidderminster,Worcestershire, seamtress born in Sydney, New South Wales. ( Her maiden name was Evans.)
Daughter Eliza Jane is Nicolle by the 1881 census and living in Swansea Wales with Edwin Jarvarin Nicolle and 2 sons . Harriet isn't living with them.From Baptism records of Eliza and Edwins children they were in Swansea by 1873.
Any help with local records would be wonderful
Thanks, Kerri
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Think it's a transcription error on the census forms
On the 1871 it says Harriet born 1806 Calverton and 1861 she is born 1806 looks like somewhere in Wales ?
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Does Thomas age 5 belong to Eliza?
Certainly reads like Calcutta in 1871. And Sydney N S Wales in 1861 goodness how far flung.
Where is she from in 1851?
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Hi
I am not sure if this is anything to do with the Australian connection
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCR-QBH
Margp
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Hi All,
Thanks for your replies. The 1861 census place of birth is correct and yes MargP that is her husband. ( John Beamont for others :) )
I have recently read his will which indicated Harriet was in the UK and Named Eliza Jane as her adopted daughter .I don't know when Harriet arrived in the UK. I have followed Eliza Jane & Edwin Nicolle to Berkshire where she died in 1910.Edwin dies in 1885.
Thomas A Beamont 5 yrs 1871census doesn't appear with Eliza & Edwin so don't know what happened to him either. ??? And yes could easily have be Eliza's baby.....
Thanks again for yor interest, Kerri
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Hi
Have you checked for a Death or a Will for Harriet in, Guernsey, I think that they have there own BMD Index, it maybe that Eliza left Guernsey, after mother died, and went to Berkshire.
It is more likely that Thomas A, was adopted also, and both of them changed there names to Beamont, I can't see any Birth record for either of them
On Eliza's marriage does it give a fathers name
Margp
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There are several trees on Ancestry with details of Harriet's parents and her husband John Beaumont .. Harriet was born 1804 Australia father George William Evans mother Jeanette Melville information from tree ..Still not seeing her after 1871 wonder if she went back to Australia ? ???
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I can't see the marriage for Eliza Jane either.
First child born in Swansea Dec 1873 Graham Beaumont Nicolle.
Maybe they married in Guernsey as I see her husband was there in 1871.
As an aside his birthplace is interesting as well.
Cape Breton United States - Nova Scotia - Canada.
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Hi All,
I have not come across a marriage of Eliza Jane Beamont and Edwin Javarin Nicolle
Possible that took place in Swansea ?
Yes Rosie,I have quite alot of information on Harriets father,mother and siblings.Her father married twice so many of them :)
I haven't found a death in Australia for Harriet no mention of her in Tasmanian records where her husband lived.Hence my post here in the hope Harriet may died in St Peters Port. I guess she could have gone to Swansea with Eliza and Edwin and died there before the next census ??
Thanks Kerri
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Eliza Jane Beamont was my Great Grandmother, the adopted daughter of Harriet and John. John Beamont (b.1792) mentions Eliza Jane as "your adopted daughter" in one of his letters to Harriet.
John arrived in Hobart arrived in Sydney from Guernsey in 1812 then went to Tasmania in 1813 where he apparently remained for his lifetime never visiting his home country again
John Beamont married Harriet Emily Evans in Hobart on 11 September 1820. John was 28 and Harriet 16 years of age (B.1804).
Harriet was the daughter of George William and Jennett (nee Melville) Evans, George being a Surveyor General of Tasmania and explorer in New South Wales.
I do not know when Harriet returned to Guernsey or if she ever visited Tasmania again. Contents of letters allude to strained relationship between Harriet and John's brother's wife taking place in Hobart.
I hold a copy of a letter from John to Harriet in October 1870 addressed to her at No 1 Belmont Terrace, Kings Road, Guernsey. Also shown is Havelot, St Peter Port, (same place?)
Harriet died at that address December 24, 1872, aged 67yrs 2 mths. John Beamont died only a few days earlier on 19th December 1872 in Hobart, Tasmania so Harriet would have never known of his death.
Also, my Grandmother always talked of her father (Eliza Jane's husband, Edwin Janvrin Nicolle) as being "a French doctor". I notice on other posts he was said to have been from Canada.
Hope this is of use to you.
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Welcome to Rootschat Roy.
Many thanks for the information regarding Harriets Beamonts Death.
I have not found anything to suggest that Edwin Janvrin Nicolle was a doctor .From the census records
he was an ironmonger.
I am happy to pass on any other information to you. Once you have posted 2 more messages on Rootschat you can send a private message
Thanks again, Kerri
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I have more information about Eliza Jane Beamont that may be of interest if you do not already have it.
The 1901 census shows Eliza Jane Nicolle residing at 86 Broad Street, Reading. The census shows all the family being cutlers, I have some of cutlery engraved with the initials EJB and also EJN and one with HN (Harriet)
Children are listed as Graham Beamont, 27y
Maud Emily, 19y ( my Grandmother)
Stanley 17y
Stanley was living in Cambridge in the 1950's
There was definitely another daughter, Florence, who was older that Maud, she emigrated to Melbourne, Australia as did Maud in 1912.
There was another son, name unknown, who was serving in the army in the Boer War at Christmas 1900. I still have a box of chocolates that he received as a Christmas gift while in Africa that he sent home to Maud in Broad Street.
As previously mentioned John Beamont died in Hobart in 1872, he was a very wealthy man, his estate being valued at some 28,000 pounds. . ( The wage for an unskilled laborer in 1870 was about 180 pounds a year)
According to his will Harriet was the immediate legatee.
I am interested mainly in the ascendants of Eliza Jane and Edwin Nicholle.
Eliza Jane's parents were George and Eliza Neville, farmers in the County of Hereford, and Eliza was born on 15 August 1849 (?), but that is all I know.
I would like to know of Daphne Fan's connection, I suspect it must be through Eliza Jane's children.
Also, what connection do the MargP "3 generations" have, is it family as there is a remarkable resemblance of one in the picture to my cousin who resided in Newcastle, NSW (Australia).
Trust you will find this interesting !
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Hi Ray,
Apologies for the typo with your name in my last post.
I am not related to Eliza Jane's children .My connection is Harriet as she is my 3x great aunt, her brother George is my line.
When your searching for someone you tend go off in other directions and so I have researched Eliza and Edwin's children. In the hope of finding Harriet with them .
The other son you mention is Ernest Melville Nicolle Born 28 June 1877 baptised 24 march 1880 of Percha Place .Parish of Swansea . County of Glamorgan .Also Florence Emily Born 28 May 1879 Baptised on the same day. Edwin Janvrin Nicolles' occupation Ironmonger.
regards Kerri.
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Hi Ray,
You are lucky to have those personal items of Eliza and family.
Can you tell if me Florence married in Australia?
It was reading John Beamonts' will that I discovered Eliza was an adopted daughter and so the search went overseas for Harriet.
Regards Kerri
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Kerri, Sorry that it has taken me 4 years to reply !! I lost interest in the subject then forgot about it.
I don't know if Florence was married. It must be the best part of 70 years ago when we visited her terrace house in Collingwood ( a suburb of Melbourne, Aust.)
I do not have any knowledge of her having a spouse or children.
Thanks for the info on Ernest, the name now rings a bell in my mind from something I heard of in the past but can no longer remember.
I guess he was not shown in the 1901 census at Broad Street as he was serving in Africa or resided elsewhere.