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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: lyndy on Sunday 07 December 14 20:48 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for any information that contains the parents and siblings of Mary Purcell born 1850 in Dudley Staffordshire her fathers name was Thomas he was an engine driver any info would be appreciated
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Her birth reg is on freebmd www.freebmd.org.uk
Births June qtr 1850
Mary Purcell Dudley 18 267
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Thank you for that info I am hoping to find her mothers name
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There is nothing on either the 1851 or 1861 so I suspect she may possibly have been illegitimate
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If she was illegitimate would it give her fathers name on her wedding certificate , which it does thats why I know he was called Thomas
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It was a very common practice for illegitimate children to make up a fathers name when they married in order to appear "respectable"
Many used totally fictitious names whilst others used names/occupations of relatives (eg) if brought up by grandparents they would often use the grandfathers name/occupation
If her mother married before the 1851 census then Mary may be shown on both the 1851 and 1861 under her stepfathers surname
Who did Mary marry and when?
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Her Mother's name will be on her birth certificate - saves speculation as to parentage.
Interesting, also registered on the same page:
Births Jun 1850
Purcell Joseph Dudley 18 267
Purcell Mary Dudley 18 267
No marriages showing in Dudley from 1850 to 1851 for any Purcells.
Added:
There is a death for a Joseph Purcell in Dudley later that year, which could be him as no ages recorded in 1850.
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Pearsall can be a variation but nothing coming up under that either - can you post the full details of the marriage certificate
Willow x
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;) Hiya
Purcell may even be a corruption of Portill { named found in Co Clare, Ireland }
my maternal gt gt grandmother was Jane Portill, she married Michael Murphy 1860,
Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, iv'e seen the Portill spelt in all variations so Purcell might just be
connected ;)
All the best.
Derek
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Getting a copy of the birth cert will answer all the speculation. You will then know her mums name, probably have an idea as to whether she was or wasnt illegitimate, have an address as at 1850, etc and be able to move on with some degree of confidence you are on the right track.
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I have found out Mary Purcells parents were Robert and Elizabeth, she was born 1850 in Dudley any further info would be very much appreciated.
I think maybe Mary was a twin
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I don't know how you suddenly jumped from Thomas to Robert but heres the 1861 census
Bishop Street Dudley
Robert Purcell (or Pursell) 47 head b Shropshire engine worker
Elizabeth Purcell 47 wife b Dudley sinker
Maria Purcell 19 dau b Dudley sinker
Martin Purcell 13 son b Dudley coal miner
Mary Ann Purcell 11 dau b Dudley
John Purcell 1 grandson b Dudley
RG09/2060/57/44
Willow x
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Looking at the 1851 census they are down as Pursell
Salop Street, Dudley
Robert 36 head b Dudley Engineer
Elizabeth 36 wife b Dudley nailor
Richard 12 son b Dudley coal miner
Maria 9 dau b Dudley
Robert 6 son b Dudley
Natiss 3 son b Dudley (Martin)
Mary 1 dau b Dudley
HO107/2032/92/40
Willow x
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Did you buy a copy of her birth cert?
You originally said her father was Thomas on her marriage cert so where has Robert come from? Why would she give a different name for her father?
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Have you got the marriage certificate if so can you post the details it might give us more to work on as I cant trace any of the family after the 1861 census
Willow x
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I came by the name Thomas for her father from her marriage certificate , which I will post details of when I get home.
Her birth certificate says her father is Robert and mother Elizabeth nee davies one is obviously wrong , I have tended to go with the birth certificate because she named her children Robert and Elizabeth .
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Hi Lyndy it appears that I am chasing up the same family. If you look on My Heritage you will see that we have a DNA match.