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Title: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: Round the bend on Monday 08 December 14 05:58 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am searching for anyone who has the above in their Family Tree or who has any information on either. I believe Clifford Calverley's (c: 1915) parents are George Calverley c: 1882 & Elizabeth Ann (Nee Webster) c: 1882. Many thanks 
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 08 December 14 08:27 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat! ;D


From FreeBMD:

Births, March qtr 1915
Preston district (Lancashire)     vol 8e, page 988

Calverley, Clifford     Mother's maiden name: Webster



Marriage: March qtr 1901
Preston district (Lancashire)     vol 8e, page 833

Calverley, George
Webster, Elizabeth Ann


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Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 08 December 14 13:22 GMT (UK)
Hi

Welcome to rootschat  :)

Could this be Cliffords death
Clifford Calverley
Birth Date   6 March 1915
Death registration September qtr 1976
Age at Death 61
Reg district Brentwood
Vol 9 Pg 1298
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: lizdb on Monday 08 December 14 13:31 GMT (UK)
1911 lookups arent allowed, but here are the couple in 1901 just after their marriage

7 Birk Street Preston
Household of  Timothy Weston age 23 with wife and baby
Numerous boarders in tne house incl -
George Calverley 18 married cotton weaver
Elizabeth 19   both bn Preston

I wonder if Timothy is her older brother?
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: Round the bend on Tuesday 09 December 14 01:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks to all for your replies. Am interested now to know if Clifford & Alice had any children. I am on most of the websites but have had no luck.  :-*
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: Round the bend on Tuesday 09 December 14 01:52 GMT (UK)
PS: hope I'm in the right place to reply  :)
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 09 December 14 08:13 GMT (UK)
RootsChat has a policy of not mentioning the names of living, or potentially living, people.

If Clifford was born in 1915, then he would have married sometime around WW2?
And any children born to a marriage might still be alive!

So you'll need to check on FreeBMD for yourself.
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 09 December 14 09:27 GMT (UK)
Marriage
Jul/Aug/Sep 1945
Islington
Ref 1b 525
Clifford Calverley /Alice L M Bartholomew


I cant immediately see any Calverley births with mothers maiden name Bartholomew.
But I guess there is the possibility that Alice had been married beforeand Bartholomew was not actually her maiden name.

Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 December 14 12:16 GMT (UK)
I cant immediately see any Calverley births with mothers maiden name Bartholomew.
But I guess there is the possibility that Alice had been married before and Bartholomew was not actually her maiden name.

There is this possibility but would need to be confirmed with certificates (the middle initials swap around  :-\ )

Marriage December qtr 1936   
Bartholomew    George E    (Spouse Fitts)   
Fitts    Alice L M    (Spouse Bartholomew)
Surrey Mid.E.    2a   496

She could be
Alice Molly L Calverley
Birth    27 April 1918
Death registration July 1994
Age at Death 76
Reg dist   Havering, Essex

which would tie in with
Alice M L Fitts
Mother Maiden Surname -Wing
Registered June qtr 1918
Reg district London City
1c /8
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 December 14 12:22 GMT (UK)
Not quite sure now about my last post as middle names are Lilian Margaret but 'Molly' could be a 'nickname'
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2633799/BARTHOLOMEW,%20GEORGE%20EDWARD
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 09 December 14 15:30 GMT (UK)
It certainly has a lot going for it!  I cant see a birth under Alice M L  (or L M) Bartholomew, for example.  Plus the Essex deaths for both of them (the Hospice that covers Brentwood area is in Havering, as are some Hospitals used by Brentwood residents).

But as you say, needs confirmation. Many a time things look as if they could tie up, but when it comes to it you find you are looking at random events in the lives of several different people!

Well found though - and well worth following up , as I said it has a lot going for it.
Might be worth looking to see if Clifford left a will - that might clarify his wifes name and might also list any children of they did have any. Or getting Clifford and Alices marriage cert to confirm if she was a widow previously Fitts or not.

Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: Round the bend on Wednesday 10 December 14 05:22 GMT (UK)
Hi to everyone, can you tell me if this is the way to thank you all for your replies?. I have ordered the Birth Certificate for Clifford and have considered the Alice ML & Alice LM possibilities. Once I have the Birth Certificate I am going to order the marriage certificate as well. I am getting very excited at the possibility that this may be the couple I am looking for as the rest of the family came from Dagenham, Essex. Clifford was unknown until a fellow Calverley Researcher found his birth record which matched his parents with my Grandfather's parents. Thank you all once again.
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 10 December 14 07:21 GMT (UK)
Yes, it is the way to say thank you  :)  We are always pleased to be able to help.

Do let us know what the certificates say when they arrive.

Rosie
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: Round the bend on Wednesday 10 December 14 07:24 GMT (UK)
I certainly will  :D
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: Round the bend on Monday 15 December 14 01:18 GMT (UK)
Hey All, I found them. Thank you so much. The Bartholomew/Fitts link turned out to be correct. I would never have found this without your help. I contacted the living relative and he is as excited as I am. He didnt know we existed either.  Big Thumbs Up
Title: Re: Clifford Calverley & Alice Calverley (nee Bartholomew) lived in Islington
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 15 December 14 11:13 GMT (UK)
Glad it all worked out ok  :)

Rosie