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Title: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 11 December 14 17:05 GMT (UK)

I'm puzzled.  I've found a CWGC entry and a photo of his headstone in a Kent cemetery but am unable to find his death registration. Searched FreeBMD and other sites.

William James Murrell (b 1887) died 15 October 1916 and is buried in Frittenden, Kent.

Any ideas as to where I could find a death certificate for him?


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 11 December 14 17:16 GMT (UK)
Do you know where he died?
That is where the registration will be, even if his body was then brought back to Frittenden to his Mothers, for burial
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 11 December 14 17:22 GMT (UK)

No idea where he died, that's the problem.  I assumed it was in England as he is buried in Kent.  :-\
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: fifer1947 on Thursday 11 December 14 17:26 GMT (UK)
This looks like a hospital "batch" of deaths from Lambeth on FreeBMD, age is wrong but ....... in wartime?

Dryden    John R    36    Lambeth    1d   282   
Hobday    Alfred    21    Lambeth    1d   282    
Horn    William G    20    Lambeth    1d   282    
Murrell    William    24    Lambeth    1d   282   
Old    Harvey    26    Lambeth    1d   282
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 11 December 14 17:33 GMT (UK)

Thanks.........I suppose the age could have been misread from Army records.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: fifer1947 on Thursday 11 December 14 17:36 GMT (UK)
Sorry I forgot this bit!  ::)

Deaths Dec 1916   so the correct quarter
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: fifer1947 on Thursday 11 December 14 17:39 GMT (UK)

Thanks.........I suppose the age could have been misread from Army records.


Nanny Jan

Just thinking he would have been 29 and a 9 and 4 look very similar in certain handwriting so it is possible
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 11 December 14 17:44 GMT (UK)

Still unsure.....his headstone shows initials as WJ  and the Army are usually good with details.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: Jebber on Thursday 11 December 14 17:56 GMT (UK)
Quote from: nanny jan link=topic=707486.msg5505908#msg5505908 date=1418319849

 Army are usually good with details.


Nanny Jan
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Sorry Nanny Jan, not necessarily true, I have Army records riddled with errors as recent as 1986, including vital information like blood group. Also some of my own details are incorrect. Nothing should be taken at face value😱

Jebber
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 11 December 14 18:17 GMT (UK)

Sorry Nanny Jan, not necessarily true, I have Army records riddled with errors as recent as 1986, including vital information like blood group. Also some of my own details are incorrect. Nothing should be taken at face value😱

Jebber


Oh dear......not good news.  :o
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: fifer1947 on Thursday 11 December 14 18:37 GMT (UK)
St Thomas's Lambeth looks the most likely candidate (5th London General Hospital TF) 

http://www.1914-1918.net/hospitals_uk.htm
Title: Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 11 December 14 18:40 GMT (UK)
That's interesting, thanks fifer1947; I think that has convinced me.


Nanny Jan