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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: caroclay on Thursday 11 December 14 17:33 GMT (UK)
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After 3 years of not looking at my tree I have decided to start again and today I found a death certificate and the address was given as Ponteland square Craigneuk does anyone have any idea of were a outs in craignuek this was
Thanks
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Could you tell us the year of the death certificate? - this may help the search.
Another thought - could this be a mis-spelling of Portland Square?
All the best
Philip
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It was March 1933 I've not heard of anything close to this name so just wondered were abouts in craignuek it was
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It was definitely Portland Square. I can't find it on any of the old Ordinance survey maps but my Wishaw street directory for 1925 has it listed beside Cowies Square. This was (if you know the area) approximately near the top of the Beehive Brae, left hand side going up, so Portland Square must have been around there somewhere. Perhaps where Craigneuk Belhaven Church now stands.
Looking at the directory, there were quite a few shops there, so it may have just been a long row of buildings on the main road, rather than an actual "square". Almost all of the occupants were in the coal mining trade, so the houses may have been owned by the mining company. I will ask around, I have some friends who were born & raised around that area.
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Thanks lodger that would fit in as my dad thought they stayed in dymocks buildings but must just have been around the beehive brae area, it was not a street or name that had popped up before thanks for your help
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That address was still in existence in 1930 if you can find a map from that era. It's given as home address of the bride here http://meehan.familytreeguide.com/getperson.php?personID=I96&tree=T1&sid=agsearch
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This map is the only one I could find which shows Craigneuk in relation to Motherwell and Wishaw (it's about halfway between the two as the crow flies) but unfortunately it isn't detailed enough to show street names.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400709
Added the Carfin to Wishaw road runs right through what was Craigneuk
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The address was number 24 and certificate from March 1933 it was given as home address, I can image were about it is my dad was born in the miner rows just up a bit at Carfin road
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I checked the 1925 directory for 24 Portland Square, it was occupied by Joseph Forrest, miner.
In the 1921 directory it was the same Joseph Forrest - but the address is PONTELAND Square!
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The certificate is for my great grandparents Thomas and Katie Devlin and is clearly written as Ponteland square but i know with dialect it can be wrong on certificates but the area fits in with everything else
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Carolclay
use the search here on Rootschat, for Beehive brae, and you will find a great post by Mcghee67,with a nice pic, of the houses at the top of the Beehive brae,
Cheers
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I asked a friend of mine who is Craigneuk born & bred. She says her grandparents lived in Portland (or Ponteland) Square but, it was before she was born. (she is now aged 80) She thinks it may have been around the area of Carfin Road, so that would make it after the top of the Beehive Brae. I've checked the old maps but couldn't find it on any of them.
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Thanks, my dad was born in the miners rows at Carfin Rd and they never lived far from his granparents so that would make sense, looking at the previous post i was kind of thinking it may have been possibly were the flats used to sit at top of beehive brae
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Hi,Carol interested in the fact you have McGeechan on your profile page and what inf p.o. you may be looking for.
Ian mcGeechan
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Hi,Carol interested in the fact you have McGeechan on your profile page and what inf p.o. you may be looking for.
Ian mcGeechan
Hi Ian, my great grandmother was Jeanie mcGeechan her father Philip McGeechan from the holytown/Carfin areas would need to get my folder out to check what info I have on them think I went a few gens back with them
Carolyn
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Hi Carolyn,
Nice to hear from you,had just set up my account yesterday and took me a little time set up my profile and so pleased you received my message.Generally pretty poor with social media,I can't even find how to put up a photo of myself,although you seemed to have managed.
Obvs the McGeechan name seems fairly prolific in Lanarkshire,our family moved to Ayrshire from Wishaw/Cleland/Craignuek way back in the 1920s.
My Grandfather John McGeechan and His brother Thomas had a half sister Jeanie who would maybe have been born circa1888,her mother died when she was around 8 or so and her father (my Great Grandfather) Patrick was killed in a mining accident in the Wishaw area in 1896. He went on to marry again Catherine Kelly or Kane,unsure of any Philip but then I haven't discovered much about Patrick yet other than being born in Ireland like so many others.
I also have an aunt Jeanie (Jean) named after her who lives near me here in Alloway.
I have some info on my McGeechan Family tree on Ancestry but as yet I haven't opened a full account as yet but will soon,I find it all quite addictive,despite not having an addictive personality.The strange thing about the Jeanie in my family line is my aunty doesn't even know what happened to her,whether she was taken in by other family members or passed away,we are unsure.
Ian.. :)