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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Herefordshire => Topic started by: RCB on Sunday 03 July 05 11:17 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone - I have a lot of info on my Rogers family thanks to part of the family becoming Mormons and heading West to Utah, USA, a few remained in the Weston
under Penyard district, (Pontshill, Dancing Green, Lea Bailey) my G-Grandmother being one, the family can be traced back to Llandinabo where there are several grave stones, the earliest being 1590. There were links by marriage to Gwillim, Wilks. interested to here from anyone who may have links to this lot. cheers Fred
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I have a few possibles:
John Rogers married Margaret and their children, all born in Llandinabo were:
Mary b. 1761
Margaret b.1763
William b. 1766
Thomas b. 1768
Richard b. 1772
John b. 1777
Thomas, who is my 4xG Grandfather died in Weston under Penyard in 1839. Hemarried Jane Gwillim in 1799. Are these the Rogers you are looking for?
Best wishes
Tony
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Started serious research of my wife's ancestors 3 months ago and to date have uncovered 636 direct relatives ... including Thomas Rogers (born c1769 Llandinabo) her 3rd great-grandfather, plus the Utah LDS connection. Happy to share and expand on the info uncovered to date.
Chris R (Gillian R nee Edwards)
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Hi Chris - Which one is Gillian descended from? My G-Grandmother Hannah was the daughter of John Rogers. Two summers ago I met someone from UTAH, her Gran and mine were first cousins but never met. The Utah Rogers also had no idea that there were family in Ohio.
G-G-G- Grandparents Family
Head - Thomas Rogers born, C, 2nd July 1769 Llandinabo, died December 1839
Wife - Jane Gwillim born abt 1774 Lea , died 1851 Weston under Penyard.
Daughter - Elizabeth born C, 4th August 1799 Pencoyd ?
Son - Thomas born C, 11th October 1801 Pencoyd.
Daughter - Jane born C, 26th February 1804, died 30th Sept 1849.
Daughter - Martha born C, 4th Jan 1807, died 27th April 1879 Weston
Son - John Rogers born 26th March 1809 Weston, died 6th Jan 1856.
Daughter - Lydia born C, 2nd August 1812,, died 23rd Jan 1840
Son - Enoch born 1817 (wife Charlotte Cox born Linton?)
Daughter - Hannah born C, 20th December 1820.
Son - Joseph born C, 16th July 1823, died 4th Sept 1823
G-G-G-G-Grandparents family
Head - John Rogers
Wife - Margaret
Daughter - Mary born C, 11th October 1761, all births Llandinabo
Daughter - Margaret born C, 20th November 1763
Son - William born C, 6th April 1766
Son - Thomas Rogers born C, 2nd July 1769
Son - Richard born C, 9th February 1772
Son - John born C, 11th May 1777
cheers fred
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Fred
Gill's descent is through Hannah's sister Elizabeth :
Elizabeth b. 6 Jan 1841 Lea
m. Ephraim Hurcombe b. c1834 Dursley
Their daughter Mary Hurcombe b. 26 Apr 1880 Gloucester
m. Daniel Henry Edwards b. 13 Oct 1881 Penydarran, M.T., Glamorgan
Their son Thomas Henry Ronald Edwards
b. 11 Mar 1910 Bargoed
d. 5 Nov 1968 Southampton
is Gill's father (only referred to as Gillian by her mother who is still living!)
Chris
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I know that it has been a year and a half since anyone posted to this subject. But I have recently started looking into my Roger's line.
I am looking for a last name for Thomas Roger's(1769 Llandinabo) wife, Jane. Some of you mentioned that he had married a Jane Gwilliam. Do you have proof of that??
I did find an extracted marriage record on Familysearch.org that listed a Thomas Rogers and Jane Willim married in St Peters,Hereford, England 7 Feb 1799. Could that be the same couple???
If so I would very much like to communicate with any of you who would like to share information.
Alane
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Hi Alane - Yes the Rogers tree is well documented as part of the Rodgers family became Mormons and moved to the US. I'm in touch with the families there. John Rogers, son of Thomas and Jane died quite young, but his eldest daughter and widow moved to Utah. Both sons, not Mormons, George and William moved to Ohio, William had one daughter, he returned to GB. George had a large family and they are still in Ohio, but now spell Rogers with a "D" Rodgers. Lot's of info at Familysearch Last time I looked son Enoch Rogers is absent from the list of children Thomas and Jane had.
Jane died in 1851 just after the census, she is living at the time with her daughters in Weston under Penyard.
This link should give you plenty of info -
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
cheers Fred
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The link above doesn't work. Go to ancestral file. Enter Benjamin Meek, and Benjamin Rogers Meek will be second from the top. You can explore the family tree from there.
It doesn't give Jane's surname Gwillim. And says buried Bury Hill, which is where the family lived near Weston UP. I would imagine she is buried in Weston?
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Dear Fred,
I am from that Mormon line who came to Utah. Louisa Rogers who married Benjamin Meek is my 3rd great grandmother from her second husband Andrew Jackson Allen. Do you know what Jane's , wife of Thomas, last name was.
Thank you for your response to my post.
Alane
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Well Louisa was my G-grandmothers sister, so as you can see from the other posts there are quite a few that go back to Thomas Rogers. All the places named can just about be seen from any high spot in the area, a 10 mile circle around Ross on Wye would take in most of the parishes where Rogers and associated families lived, and I live within that circle still.
Gwillim was definately Jane's surname, the people above have all added branches to the tree. Do you know Liz and Wayne Margetts, they live in Salt Lake City, and I promised to visit, they came here about 4 years ago. I will have to get in touch again.
I actually informed them of reletives that lived 20 minutes from them in the US, and they didn't know. And the Ohio family were not really known. There were Ennis, Smith, Meek of course, who all headed to the US from around Ross on Wye.
I have photos of the Jackson Allens, he was the one killed by a bull????.
As you will see the family have spread out in the US. We all have plenty of info to share. I've let things slide for about a year, maybe you will make me start finishing things off. I can send you certificate images and census pages with details, photos of where the family lived.
cheers Fred
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Fred,
So you live in the same area the Rogers came from. That certainly helps in doing family history work. I would love to see the area. I do not know the Margetts. But the Ennis and Smiths all settled in Draper, Utah where Louisa and Andrew Jackson lived. I was also raised in Draper.
I would love for you to share certificate images and census pages and also photos with me.
I do appreciate all the help you have given me.
Hope to hear from you soon!
Alane
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Hi RCB....I have 3 families from Llanidinabo between 1600-1700...they are LEWIS FAMILY-STRINGHAM and MERRICK...if any of these appear in your research ,could you please contact me...cheers...allan ;)
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Stringham can't be very common, nor Merrick? I haven't come across many.
This is worth a look for anyone researching Herefordshire families.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukhfhs/miindex.html
Fred
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only 2 stringhams on that site Fred...both Hereford....possible link somewhere along the line.thanks for the site....allan
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Hello I have a ROGERS in my tree.
She was Margaret ROGERS b.26 07 1845 Weston-under-Penyard, She married a George ABELL. b.12 10 1852
Her father was Enoch ROGERS & her mother Charlotte COX
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Bilge hello - Enoch senior was John Rogers brother, John was my GG-Grandfather, he died fairly young, his wife Harriet went to Utah with her eldest daughter Louisa, but My G-grandmother and her sister Elizabeth stayed.
You might have followed Enoch jnr who became a bible minister. There are quite a few of us here now with links back to Thomas Rogers and Jane Gwillim.
Alane above in the list was last to join us, I must get back in touch with him. Alane is in the US, are you here in the UK?
cheers Fred
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Yes I am living in the UK. Sadly no longer in Herefordshire I do miss it so much.
Ah maybe one day when I finally retire I will move back that way.
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I too am related to the Rogers of Weston-Under-Penyard, Herefordshire. My Grandfather was Thomas Charles Rogers Grandson of Enoch Rogers and Charlotte Cox. I have probably been in touch with some of you before but would be particularly interested in learning about the family who emigrated to the USA
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I too am related to the Rogers of Weston-Under-Penyard, Herefordshire. My Grandfather was Thomas Charles Rogers Grandson of Enoch Rogers and Charlotte Cox. I have probably been in touch with some of you before but would be particularly interested in learning about the family who emigrated to the USA
I took out a subscription to the (England and Wales) 1911 Census during the holidays, and between a bout of illness and being stuck in the snow, I have come back to this lot and have done a fair bit of filling in of the "facts" column in Family Tree Maker. It has also allowed me to do some back tracking as well.
So while I can't help with family emigrated to the USA (I'm as interested as you in hearing more), I'm more than happy if anybody wants any of this "filled-in" information: what people's jobs were, where they lived, etc.
Tony
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It has been awhile since I have done any work on the Rogers Line. But I am from the part of the family that came to Utah in the 1860 and I would be happy to share any information that I have.
I have no proof that Thomas Roger and Jane Gwillim or Willim had a son named Enoch. I have looked in the Pencoid Parish Registers and also in Weston-under-Penyard Registers. I found the other children listed in one or the other of these Parish Registers but I could not find an Enoch. Possibly they could have been living in a different location in Herefordshire.
I would really appreciate any help with this and also any source for the stated marriage to Charlotte Cox and his date of death.
Hope to hear from family,
Alane
(I am a female and my name is pronounced A-lane)
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Hi Alane
I have a copy of the marriage certificate of Enoch Rogers and Charlotte Cox. Interestingly Enoch's name is shown as Rodgers but they signed the register with an X so they probably did not know any different. The certificate shows that they were married by banns in the Church of Aston Ingham on December 18th 1842. My research shows that they had 9 children one of which was Enoch Rogers. According to Family Tree Maker I am his 3rd Great Grandson. Enoch was born/baptised on 25th February 1816 at Linton Herefordshire and died 11th March 1888 at Weston-Under-Penyard, Herefordshire. Enoch and Charlotte had 5 children; one of whom was my Great Grandmother Margaret Rogers and another was also named Enoch Rogers. Enoch was a Bible Christians/Methodist Minister and at the moment I am researching his career. I hope this information is useful. Please ask if there is anything else you would like to know and I will endeavour to help. Adrian Norton
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Hello Friends
My cousin remembers vaguely her grandfather Enoch Rogers and thinks he was an Orphan. Other than that and a picture of him with some of his family she knows nothing about him ...but would like to.
We spent some time searching while she was visiting recently and we discovered that he was Enoch Evans Rogers who on the 1911 census said he was born in 'England" in 1867.
I cannot find a match on the 1871 or 1881 census. Nor can I find any record elsewhere and I am suspicious that the Evans middle name and the Birthplace stated as England might suggest the country and perhaps he was Welsh.
One record suggests he may be the Enoch born Walsall 1867.
She spent his life in Walsall, West Bromwich and Handsworth 1887-94 where all 5 children were born.
He married Eliza Coley in Birmingham in 1885 when he was 18 and she was 22.
He died in 1947 aged 85 - BUT 147 - 85 would place his birth at 1862.
Ell intriguing stuff but not very helpful - can anyone show any light on this conundrum?
Thanks in anticipation of SKSs help.
Colin