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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: 1963chris on Saturday 27 December 14 14:01 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I have reason to believe that my ancestor Flora Parish, born 1891 in Nanaimo, Canada, to Joshua and Elizabeth Parish, late of Wyke, Yorkshire, and who lived for some time in Vigo Co Indiana, was married to a man called Bender, possibly about 1914/15. This would have been her first marriage - she later married a man named Louis E Arnett in 1923, in Washington (state). The family also lived for many years in Oregon. Flora signed the Arnett marriage document (seen on the Ancestry website) as Mrs Flora Bender, and seems to have had a few children by Mr Bender, but I cannot, however, find a marriage record for Flora and this Mr Bender. I think that I have found everything it is possible to find about Flora on Ancestry and Familysearch, but was wondering if anyone knew of any other website I could search, that might have Indiana marriage records for this time period? I realise that this is a long shot, but thought why not give it a go as it's Christmas!
Regards & Happy New Year,
Christine
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There is a Vigo Co. marriage database here - http://www.vigo.lib.in.us/marriage - but I do not see Flora or Mr. Bender.
Do you have Flora on the 1920 census as Bender or any death information for her children?
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Hi,
1930 Census seems to say Flora married age 21 years so around 1914. Death record for George E Bender born 13 March 1915 and died 23 August 1962 Oregon. Burial :- Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon. Mentioned on US Veterans Gravesites.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=353198&ref=acom
Gap in children's ages from 1915 to 1923 could mean Mr Bender died 1915 ish ???
No sign on 1920 census yet ???
Sandra
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Could this be them in 1920? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZSR-4PV The "Louise" is listed on the actual image as male, so maybe it's Louis? The age for George looks like it's been written over and 49 doesn't make sense for a grandson of people in their 40's/50's.
Also, the actual image says that Flora was born "Van Cover Island" Canada, so that seems to fit. Looking closely at George's age, it may say 4 9/12, meaning 4 years old and 9 months.
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Is this the family I wonder ... ?
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=arnett&GSfn=lewis&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=27968180&df=all&
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Looking back at 1900 the only son of Frank and Louise was Louis Bender aged 4 years
Central Lake, Antrim, Michigan 1900
Frank Bender 31 Louisa Bender 35
Florence M Bender 7 Louie Bender 4 Oct 1895
William J Mc Cloud 18
Julia Rousean 65#
Yet the WW1 Draft (5 June 1917) for Louis Earl Bender (13 Oct 1895) in 1918 says he was single ???
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6X4-3CX
Sandra
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Louis Bender - 13 Oct 1895 - died May 1975 - 44221 Cuyahoga Falls, Summit, Ohio.
Sandra
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Marriage for Lewis Earl Bender - 7 July 1917 to Floz Shull of Vancouver Island (Parents Joshua Paris...
Spouse's Mother's Name: Elizabeth Sharpp)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N35P-P4M
Sandra
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Louis E. Bender is on the Akron obituary index here - http://sc.akronlibrary.org/files/2013/05/1962-1979_Obits_a-c.pdf
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Marriage of Stephen Shull born 1 June 1886 to Flora Parish born 2 October 1891 married 8 June 1914 Vermillion, Indiana. Father Joshua Parish and Elizabeth Hurst
Grooms parents :- John Shull and Mother Nancy C Wiley
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27VQ-PC4
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27VQ-H49
Sandra
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Steven Shull in 1910 Clinton, Vermillion, Indiana.
John M Shull 45 Born Indiana.
Nancy C Shull 42 Born Indiana.
Steven D Shull 23 Born Indiana.
1920 Helt, Vermillion, Indiana.
Steven Shull 33 Born Indiana. Farm.
Lilian C Shull 22 Born Indiana.
Lillian was Lillie C Walter according to the marriage of there daughter Mildred Louise Shull 27 June 1945
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ef7/
Sandra
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In the Clinton, Indiana Daily Clintonian from 2 Oct. 1914, it says "More complaints are reported in the family circles of Stephen Shull and his wife." Apparently, Flora's mother-in-law alleged that Flora called her names & threw a large rock at her and Flora's father Joshua made some remarks that were not proper. Flora was arrested on a charge of provoke, and Joshua was arrested for using vile and obscene language.
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In the same paper from 30 Jan. 1915, it says Stephen & Flora's divorce was granted. The plaintiff Stephen was ordered to pay $4.50 a month for the unborn child from date of birth.
It looks like Stephen divorced a woman named Goldie in 1913.
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Great finds - Crumbs - quite an eventful family Shelly ;) Poster will be amazed when they return.
This was a marriage of Savannah Shull (born 15 August 1910) - daughter of Stephen and Golda Cobb.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFQ6-QZQ
Sandra
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Terre Haute Ward 5, Vigo, Indiana 1910
Josiah Parish 51 - Elizabeth Parish 54 - Flora Parish 18
Joshua widowed in Portland (Districts 1-219), Multnomah, Oregon in 1930
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XC9T-191
Death of Joshua parish in Portland Oregon - 1938
FIND A GRAVE
Burial: Shepherd Cemetery Shepardsville Vigo County Indiana.
Elizabeth died 5 th July 1916
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=parish&GSfn=elizabeth&GSiman=1&GScid=1974854&GRid=14967976&
Sandra
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Clinton Clintonian June 2, 1920 - "Joshua Parrish of Shepherdsville has gone to Alma, Mich. to visit his daughter, Mrs. Flora Bender. He hopes to get on to Ottawa to see his friend Hon. Mackenzie King, leader of the opposition in the Dominion house of commons."
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More marriage intrigue from the Daily Clintonian September 30, 1914 - Steven D. Shull, a grocery clerk of this city, was arrested on a warrant sworn out by his wife for desertion. It said the couple had not lived together for more than 2 years and Mr. Shull brought an action for divorce about two years ago, but the case was never tried. It says he began the action again two days ago and a summons was served on his wife.
There are articles from 1913 that said Goldie deserted Steven. It sounds from this article like their divorce wasn't final by the time that Steven married Flora. :-\
Stephen D. Shull obit can be seen somewhat by scrolling to the bottom of this page - http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/12227856/
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Photographs of Steven (middle name "Decator") Shull and Flora Parish on ancestry tree. (Plus other generation Shull Family)
FIND A GRAVE For Steven Shull.
Burial: Walnut Grove Cemetery Clinton Vermillion County Indiana.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=113914393&ref=acom
Sandra
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Obit listed for Lillian C Walter - last wife of Steven Shull -
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ef8/
FIND A GRAVE
Lillian Clara Shull - Burial: Walnut Grove Cemetery Clinton Vermillion County
Indiana.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=113914374&ref=acom
Sandra
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Blimey! This is amazing! My thanks to all! This family have been a puzzle to me for a while now. They travelled such distances, for one thing! Elizabeth Hirst, Flora's mother, was my maternal grandmother Emily Hirst's aunt - her little brother Harry was my gt grandfather. Many members of this family are buried at St Mark's Church, Low Moor.
I have seen the photo of Elizabeth Hirst's grave on the Find a Grave website, but had not known of these other graves.
Little did I expect to find out so much from my post on Flora! I will have a good read and enjoy unravelling the story. She seems to have been a feisty lady. I had wondered if there might have been a divorce somewhere, but had seen no evidence if it.
Joshua Parish originally worked for the Low Moor Company (West Yorks) as a coal miner, and seems to have stuck to this trade for most of his life.
Again many thanks to all - I am most grateful!
Christine
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You're welcome.
In the Clinton Daily Clintonian from September 15, 1917, it said Joshua Parish of route 2 recently returned from Michigan. It says he tried to work in a motor factory in Flint, but said it was too noisy for an old miner. He said he does much harder work in a mine, but is more "his own boss" and is away from the terrific noise in the motor factory.
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Blimey! This is amazing! My thanks to all! This family have been a puzzle to me for a while now. They travelled such distances, for one thing! Elizabeth Hirst, Flora's mother, was my maternal grandmother Emily Hirst's aunt - her little brother Harry was my gt grandfather. Many members of this family are buried at St Mark's Church, Low Moor.
I have seen the photo of Elizabeth Hirst's grave on the Find a Grave website, but had not known of these other graves.
Little did I expect to find out so much from my post on Flora! I will have a good read and enjoy unravelling the story. She seems to have been a feisty lady. I had wondered if there might have been a divorce somewhere, but had seen no evidence if it.
Joshua Parish originally worked for the Low Moor Company (West Yorks) as a coal miner, and seems to have stuck to this trade for most of his life.
Again many thanks to all - I am most grateful!
Christine
You're very welcome Christine. Lots of info to fill those gaps.
Happy New Year
Regards
Sandra ;D
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More marriage intrigue from the Daily Clintonian September 30, 1914 - Steven D. Shull, a grocery clerk of this city, was arrested on a warrant sworn out by his wife for desertion. It said the couple had not lived together for more than 2 years and Mr. Shull brought an action for divorce about two years ago, but the case was never tried. It says he began the action again two days ago and a summons was served on his wife.
It looks like the facts of this case were corrected in the next day's paper, which said his divorce from Goldie was granted about a year ago, he was trying to divorce Flora, and Flora was the one who had him arrested for desertion.
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Hi,
I am patiently adding the info you have all found to my Ancestry tree. It is fascinating!
Flora seems to have been the only one of her siblings to reach adulthood. She had 2 sisters, Mary and Ellen, who died infancy and who she never met. Her brother, George Henry, died in Washington in 1894, aged 17. I don't know what happened to him. There is an entry for him on the Find a Grave website.
In Yorkshire, the Hirst and Parish families earned their living as coal miners and foundrymen, working for the Low Moor company.
Again, many thanks to all for the information you have found, and Happy New Year!
Christine