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Title: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: ColC on Sunday 28 December 14 16:08 GMT (UK)
I have a baptism record from 1778, Kilbride, Bute (Arran).
Can anyone help me locate the abode which was noted as Aird.

Regards
Colin
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: fifer1947 on Sunday 28 December 14 20:20 GMT (UK)
Aird Castle (the remains of) are in Kilbride parish, Isle of Arran
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: fifer1947 on Sunday 28 December 14 20:26 GMT (UK)
http://data.historic-scotland.gov.uk/pls/htmldb/f?p=2300:35:0::NO::P35_SELECTED_MONUMENT:6639

Kilbride parish (Kil = church of St Bride or Bridget) takes in Lamlash Bay
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 December 14 20:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

Kilbride parish includes all of the East coast of Arran:

http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-argyll.htm

I've been looking at the old  19th century 6 ins to mile OS maps all down that side of Arran but I can't find it so far. Aird usually means Point  in Gaelic, so it would most likely be on a promontory.


gadget
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: fifer1947 on Sunday 28 December 14 20:44 GMT (UK)
From Genuki (Aird means high or height gadget's correct it means point) http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/BUT/Miscellaneous/

"CASTLE OF AIRD, in the island of Arran, in the county of Bute, Scotland. This extensive ruin is supposed to have been the work of the Danes, and is situated on a promontory a little to the north of Caradell Point."

Not sure about this may be a confusion with Carradale in Kiintyre
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 December 14 20:46 GMT (UK)
Fifer - the only Castle of Aird that I can find is in Kintyre (Canmore has it there)- I'm guessing that the Arran one must be a small place on the east coast of Arran - I'll try looking at other maps but eyes go funny after a while.


Gadget
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 December 14 20:49 GMT (UK)
This is the Carradale  one - on Kintyre:

http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/39222/details/carradale+aird+s+castle/
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: fifer1947 on Sunday 28 December 14 20:53 GMT (UK)
Fifer - the only Castle of Aird that I can find is in Kintyre (Canmore has it there)- I'm guessing that the Arran one must be a small place on the east coast of Arran - I'll try looking at other maps but eyes go funny after a while.


Gadget

Agreed that's the only one I could find.  I think Genuki may have boobed on this one.  :-\

LOL I've got glaucoma so you don't need to tell me about eyes, I know just what you mean  ;D
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 December 14 21:02 GMT (UK)
It's at times like these that we need Arranroots  :)

I have what's been called high occular pressure - not yet glaucoma, which my mother had. 

I'll see what I can find, I've got lots of photos of the area in recent times but don't know it in minute detail - used to be a weekend trip when we lived in the far NW Highlands.

Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 December 14 21:08 GMT (UK)
A very old map with totally wrong coatline but here is an Aird - opposite Lamlash/Holy Island


http://maps.nls.uk/view/00000428#zoom=6&lat=3965&lon=4058&layers=BT


Gadget
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 December 14 21:12 GMT (UK)
Think this might  be it on modern map

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=205447&y=628275&z=115&sv=205447,628275&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=539&ax=205447&ay=628275&lm=0


There's a Point House.
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: fifer1947 on Sunday 28 December 14 21:14 GMT (UK)
Excellent find Gadget there no name on that promontory on modern maps well done!  Yep that must be it and within Kilbride Parish too.  My eyes now > :D
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 28 December 14 21:18 GMT (UK)
You beat me to it, but I spotted this one:

http://maps.nls.uk/view/00000276

Seems to be Kingscross Point now?

Nell
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 December 14 21:26 GMT (UK)
Yours has a more up to date coastline, Nell .

NLS Maps are wonderful, aren't they  :)
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: fifer1947 on Sunday 28 December 14 21:27 GMT (UK)
You beat me to it, but I spotted this one:

http://maps.nls.uk/view/00000276

Seems to be Kingscross Point now?

Nell

During WW2 there was a boom across that end of the bay I suspect naval officers may have renamed the point.  ::)
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 28 December 14 21:41 GMT (UK)
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NLS Maps are wonderful, aren't they  :)

Sure are - found a place related to OH's family on Arran just recently - doesn't exist on modern maps, I worked it out that its under the middle of a forestry plantation.

Nell
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: ColC on Sunday 28 December 14 22:25 GMT (UK)
My thanks to all, especially Little Nell. The map I had records Kings Point off King's Cross.
It's in the area of my research. Thanks again.

Happy New Year to all.

Colin
Title: Re: Aird, Isle of Arran.
Post by: Arrangirl81 on Saturday 31 January 15 19:19 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
First time I've noticed a post re Arran. I'm from Arran, have never heard of Aird but when I looked at the map Gadget linked to, it points to the Lamlash area as it appears to be next to Cordon although spelled differently on that map. I will however ask my elderly mother as she is more likely to know than me. If it is in Kings Cross, I know there is an old Roman fort but never heard of a castle. If there was my mum will know as that's where she grew up.
Any one else needing any Arran tips or hints do feel free to ask and I'll check out the Aird reference.
And yes Kilbride parish covers from the east to the south of the island then it becomes Kilmory parish.