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Title: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: cnerys on Tuesday 30 December 14 23:39 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I have just found on a death certificate that my husband's ancestor James Carruthers died as a result of an accident in 1923, he died in the back of an ambulance after surviving for 2 hours. This happened in Maybole and he was living in Girvan at the time. I'm wondering if there would be any newspaper records of the accident, I don't know what happened, and where would I find the newspapers?
Kind Regards
Nerys
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: loobylooayr on Tuesday 30 December 14 23:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Nerys ,
The British Newspaper Archive might and I stress might be of interest www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk.
or Google Newspaper Archive  - has Glasgow Herald .
Other local newspapers such as Ayrshire Post are not online (to my knowledge) and are held either at the Ayrshire Archives in Ayr or at Burns Monument Centre Kilmarnock , Ayrshire.   
Hope you find what you are looking for.
Looby :)
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: cnerys on Wednesday 31 December 14 00:01 GMT (UK)
A puzzle also to do with James Carruthers.
Also on the death Certificate is something that's puzzling me  :o

within the margin is written : Result of precognition. See Reg
                                               Exr.  Entry  Vid II, page 229
                                               1st February 1924

Does anyone have any idea what this might mean or where I might find help in understanding what it means?
Kind Regards
Nerys
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: cnerys on Wednesday 31 December 14 00:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you Looby, I will look tomorrow first in newspaper archive or I might be able to get in touch with Ayrshire Archives.
Best wishes
Nerys
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: loobylooayr on Wednesday 31 December 14 00:06 GMT (UK)
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19140810&b_mode=2

Looks like all of 1923 available for Glasgow Herald online. If you know date of death you might find something reported - then again depending on the circumstances of your ancestors death it may not have made this newspaper  :-\
Have you looked at the Death Entry on Scotlands People website? Was there an entry on The Register of Corrected Entries?

Looby :)
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: loobylooayr on Wednesday 31 December 14 00:13 GMT (UK)
Nerys -
You need to log back into Scotlands People and view the death registration again. There should be a red box on the right hand side of screen with the words " VIEW RCE ( 1 credit)" . If you have a credit to use and click on the icon it will open the Register of Corrected Entries - this may give you a little more info :-\
This was completed after a death certificate was issued and more info came to light or something that was initially recorded was changed i.e. time of death/place of death etc.

Looby :)
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 31 December 14 10:32 GMT (UK)
A puzzle also to do with James Carruthers.
Also on the death Certificate is something that's puzzling me  :o

within the margin is written : Result of precognition. See Reg
                                               Exr.  Entry  Vid II, page 229
                                               1st February 1924

Does anyone have any idea what this might mean or where I might find help in understanding what it means?
Kind Regards
Nerys

Due to the circumstances of the death there would have been a full report to the Procurator Fiscal who would then have formally interviewed witnesses (the Precognition) - As previously said check to see if there was an RCE made (occasionally they give lots of information but sometimes they disappoint)
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: cnerys on Wednesday 31 December 14 15:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you both for your help  :), I looked at the RCE and it did indeed shed light on what caused James' death, a mining accident at Killochan Coal Pit, something else for me to try and look up.
Kind regards
Nerys
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: tidybooks on Wednesday 31 December 14 21:01 GMT (UK)
Hi cnerys,

I had a look at Scottish Mining website, they have a report from the Scotsman Newspaper of the accident that killed James Carruthers, 6 Hillview, Bourtree, Girvan. Click in link below,


http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/333.html (http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/333.html)

Tom
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: cnerys on Thursday 01 January 15 17:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Tom for the link  :), I couldn't find anything about the accident when I looked. It's been a very interesting path for me to find out about this branch of my husband's tree, and when I looked more on the mining accident page, in 1929 there may be another person belonging to him, so I am so grateful for your help.
Kind regards
Nerys
Title: Re: Death notice in newspaper?
Post by: Elainebell on Saturday 06 February 21 21:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,

James Carruthers was my Great Grandfather. I knew exactly how died just that it was a mining accident so happy but sad at the same time to read this.