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I would like to know more details about the parents of Christopher Whitehead.
Christopher Ancestry Profile: http://ancstry.me/1rTFfai
Christopher Whitehead
My 3rd great grandfather
Birth 13 Jun 1818 in Burley in Wharfedale, Yorkshire, England
Death 31 Dec 1894 in Ilkley, Great Britain
Mary (Christopher's wife)
Birth 10 Mar 1827 in Burley in Wharfedale, Yorkshire, England
Death 19 Apr 1917 in Ilkley, Great Britain
I know his parents names were William Whitehead and Mary. But that is all I know. Can anyone help me find his parents birthdates, his mother's maiden name, etc.?
I would also like to know what Christopher's wife Mary's maiden name was. Can anyone help with this too?
Thank you so much,
Robert
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Do you have an estimated year of marriage for Christopher and Martha?
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Do you have an estimated year of marriage for Christopher and Martha?
Yes, Christopher Whitehead and Martha married in July of 1847; Otley, Yorkshire West Riding
What does the volume / page number mean that is references here (how do I find it):
http://bit.ly/1DkPSEo
-- Robert
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1847 Marriage in Otley:
Ann Craven
Jane Howson
Hannah Myers
CHRISTOPHER WHITEHEAD
MARY WHITEHEAD
Mary may have shared the name Whitehead?
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1847 Marriage in Otley:
Ann Craven
Jane Howson
Hannah Myers
CHRISTOPHER WHITEHEAD
MARY WHITEHEAD
Mary may have shared the name Whitehead?
Yes you are right! as they have the same Volume and page number! Also, I know there grandkids from two different children married as well.
Where can I find this XXIII 452 document?
Do you think they were first cousins or siblings?
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Do you mean you want to order the marriage certificate?
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They could be related - they're more likely to be cousins as marrying your sibling is illegal! Or they could just share a name.
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The volume and page number are part of the information you need to order the certificate. You also need Registration District, Year and Quarter. Best place to buy is at www.gro.gov.uk..
Suggest you get the cert for your double Whitehead marriage to check that this is not just a transcription error. The cert will also give names for their fathers..
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The volume and page number are part of the information you need to order the certificate. You also need Registration District, Year and Quarter. Best place to buy is at www.gro.gov.uk..
Suggest you get the cert for your double Whitehead marriage to check that this is not just a transcription error. The cert will also give names for their fathers..
Okay, I just ordered it, thank you, Robert
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Hi could I just ask, as the couple married in 1847 have you located them in the 1851 census, as their is this Christopher in 1851?:-
Christopher Whitehead 31 Married occ Game Keeper b Burley
Samuel Whitehead 18 (Brother in Law/Visitor) occ Rover (Worsted) b Burley
Residing at Lane Top, Burley
Census Ref HO107/2284/325/30
Keyboard86
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When you get the marriage cert post the locations and names of the fathers and of the witnesses on this thread then we can try to get you further back from there.
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Hi could I just ask, as the couple married in 1847 have you located them in the 1851 census, as their is this Christopher in 1851?:-
Christopher Whitehead 31 Married occ Game Keeper b Burley
Samuel Whitehead 18 (Brother in Law/Visitor) occ Rover (Worsted) b Burley
Residing at Lane Top, Burley
Census Ref HO107/2284/325/30
Keyboard86
Yes. I saw that one. But I don't know what most of that means. Could you please explain it?
What is Occ?
Could samuel be Mary's brother?
What is rover/worsted?
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Occ means occupation. It looks like Samuel is Mary's brother which confirms that her maiden name was Whitehead
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Rover definition-
Loaded cotton yarn onto bobbins, giving the yarn a twist, (Roving) after the Carding and Combing processes.
http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/q-r.html#R
'Worsted' means he was a seller of woollen cloth
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Hi again, Mary 14 and Samuel 9 are shown with a John 40 & Sarah 35 Whitehead and other siblings in 1841 at Burley Lodge, Otley Census Ref HO107/1314/ 5/7 / 7
Also a William Whitehead 45 occ Farmer is with a Mary 45 at Menton, Otley, Census ref HO107/1314/ 8/4/ 3, on the next page are Thomas 25 Christopher 20 William 12 Sarah 8 Martha 10 Margaret 7 and Elizabeth 25 with a William & Grace Shepherd also at Menston, Otley Census Ref HO107/1314/ 8/5 / 5
Keyboard86
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I think keyboard86 may have hit on gold with that find of Christopher with Samuel as a visitor. Note that they are also living next door to another Whitehead family in 1851.
If you look for Samuel 1832 in the 1841 census you will find him at Otley Lodge with probable parents John and Sarah. Probable siblings: William, Mary, Ann, John, Sarah and Susannah. Mary in that census has birth year 1827.
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My post crossed with yours keyboard86. Apologies for the duplicate info and congrats on a fascinating find.
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Could this be John and Sarah's marriage?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2KL-D42
John Whitehead married Sarah Manners on September 15th 1823 in Otley, Yorkshire
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If you are right about John & Sarah's marriage Bettyheath, then do you think this might be the baptism for Sarah Manners: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N56K-HPR, in Leathley with parents John and Mary?
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Yes it seems very likely
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Hi again, Mary 14 and Samuel 9 are shown with a John 40 & Sarah 35 Whitehead and other siblings in 1841 at Burley Lodge, Otley Census Ref HO107/1314/ 5/7 / 7
Also a William Whitehead 45 occ Farmer is with a Mary 45 at Menton, Otley, Census ref HO107/1314/ 8/4/ 3, on the next page are Thomas 25 Christopher 20 William 12 Sarah 8 Martha 10 Margaret 7 and Elizabeth 25 with a William & Grace Shepherd also at Menston, Otley Census Ref HO107/1314/ 8/5 / 5
Keyboard86
Can you please give me the link to this:
ref HO107/1314/ 8/4/ 3
Thanks,
Robert
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The reference is to the England & Wales census 1841. You should be able to follow through to it yourself in ancestry if you go to the card catalogue and choose the correct census. The search form that comes up gives you boxes for all of the following references in the string that keyboard86 has given you.
Try it yourself so that you learn how the reference system works for censuses and if you cannot find it ask again and I will send you a direct link.
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Hi again, Mary 14 and Samuel 9 are shown with a John 40 & Sarah 35 Whitehead and other siblings in 1841 at Burley Lodge, Otley Census Ref HO107/1314/ 5/7 / 7
Also a William Whitehead 45 occ Farmer is with a Mary 45 at Menton, Otley, Census ref HO107/1314/ 8/4/ 3, on the next page are Thomas 25 Christopher 20 William 12 Sarah 8 Martha 10 Margaret 7 and Elizabeth 25 with a William & Grace Shepherd also at Menston, Otley Census Ref HO107/1314/ 8/5 / 5
Keyboard86
Where does William & Grace Shepherd also at Menston, Otley Census Ref HO107/1314/ 8/5 / 5 fit into all this?
Where is the link to this: Ref HO107/1314/ 8/5 / 5
Could William & Grace Shephed be related to Martha Shepherd? Mother of Mary Ann Whitehead (1849-1932)?
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/50192895/person/20306378623
Thank you so much,
Robert
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That census record with William & Grace Shepherd is interesting as they are in their 70s and seem to have a bunch of Whiteheads, including Christopher, in their household. Suggests you are on the right track with Martha.
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The reference is to the England & Wales census 1841. You should be able to follow through to it yourself in ancestry if you go to the card catalogue and choose the correct census. The search form that comes up gives you boxes for all of the following references in the string that keyboard86 has given you.
Try it yourself so that you learn how the reference system works for censuses and if you cannot find it ask again and I will send you a direct link.
I can't get it to work, can you please send me the links.
-- Robert
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Hi Robert, the 1841 census reference search is slightly different in layout, for instance in your first enquiry enter in boxes provided, Piece 1314 Book 8 Folio 4 Page 3
Keyboard86
PS you will see William & Mary are shown as WHITEBREAD ( an amendment has been posted)
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You can also find it by searching on Grace Shepherd 1766 Otley.
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Hi could I just ask, as the couple married in 1847 have you located them in the 1851 census, as their is this Christopher in 1851?:-
Christopher Whitehead 31 Married occ Game Keeper b Burley
Samuel Whitehead 18 (Brother in Law/Visitor) occ Rover (Worsted) b Burley
Residing at Lane Top, Burley
Census Ref HO107/2284/325/30
Keyboard86
Yes. I saw that one. But I don't know what most of that means. Could you please explain it?
What is Occ?
Could samuel be Mary's brother?
What is rover/worsted?
A Rover prepared wool (or cotton) for spinning. Worsted is a type of wool yarn
He probably worked in an industrial worsted mill, They were very common in the West Riding
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All Saints, Otley - from Ancestry
10 June 1811 - William Whitehead (husbandman) of this parish, and Mary Mitchel of this parish married by Banns.
15 September 1823 - John Whitehead (Labourer) of this parish and Sarah Manners of the parish of Leathley, married by Banns.
Baptisms at All Saints, Otley
Thomas, born 10 October, baptised 6 November 1814. William and Mary from Otley, Corn Dealer.
Christopher, born 13 June, baptised 9 August 1818. William and Mary from Burley, Farmer
Mary, born 16 August, baptised 13 September 1822. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
William, born 29 October, baptised 24 December 1826. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Sarah, born 19 July, baptised 2 October 1831. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Margaret, born 20 May, baptised 21 June 1833. Wlliam and Mary from Menston, Farmer
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All Saints, Otley - from Ancestry
10 June 1811 - William Whitehead (husbandman) of this parish, and Mary Mitchel of this parish married by Banns.
15 September 1823 - John Whitehead (Labourer) of this parish and Sarah Manners of the parish of Leathley, married by Banns.
Baptisms at All Saints, Otley
Thomas, born 10 October, baptised 6 November 1814. William and Mary from Otley, Corn Dealer.
Christopher, born 13 June, baptised 9 August 1818. William and Mary from Burley, Farmer
Mary, born 16 August, baptised 13 September 1822. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
William, born 29 October, baptised 24 December 1826. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Sarah, born 19 July, baptised 2 October 1831. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Margaret, born 20 May, baptised 21 June 1833. Wlliam and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Are the William and mary from otley, burley and menston the same people? What is the difference between otley, burley and menston?
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I have no idea whether William and Mary from Otley, Burley and Menston are the same couple. These are merely extracts from the parish records, using the criteria of William and Mary Whitehead being the parents.
Otley, Burley and Menston are the "Abode" addresses recorded in the baptisms, i.e. where the family were living at the time of the baptisms. If you look at GENUKI - Yorkshire - you will see that Burley and Menston are both within the parish of Otley. Google Maps will confirm the locations.
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What is the difference between otley, burley and menston?
Robert, you really should learn how to use google maps. It is a very simple search which you can easily do for yourself. You will be able to clearly see the locations of each of these places in vivid colour. It is much easier than someone trying to explain the locations to you when you are obviously not familiar with the area.
I have suggested and provided links on two or three of your other threads that you should look at Genuki and google maps to answer these really really simple little questions, and I see BumbleB has also suggested the same.
The parish records kindly supplied by BumbleB may very well be the same couple - even though their abode varied slightly they could easily have moved, or perhaps the locations were just recorded differently. If this are the only William and Mary in the vicinity it is quite possible they are your family.
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Thanks Ruskie.
AND if we go back to a previous thread by gliesian66 - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709748.0 in which he has added a partial tree. I'm not sure where this tree comes from, but it doesn't sit quite right - to me :-\
In this tree we have Christopher Whitehead married to Mary Whitehead with children -
John Whitehead born 1856 in Pool, Joseph BALDWIN Whitehead born 1859 in Burley and William Whitehead born 1853 in Burley.
1861 Census in Leeds:
Christopher, a Gardener aged 42 born Burley
Mary aged 34
Margaret aged 11
William aged 8
John aged 5 born POOL
Joseph aged 2 - all children, except John, born in Burley
1861 Census in Otley
Christopher, a Corn Dealer aged 33 born Rawdon (Leeds)
Christiana aged 29 born Rochdale
Susannah aged 3
Joseph B aged 2 - children born Otley
Marriage 14 November 1855 - St Chad, Rochdale
Christopher Whitehead of Weston, Yorkshire aged 27 - father: Joseph, a Farmer
Christiana BALDWIN of Rochdale aged 23
So, we have two Christopher Whitehead candidates, plus two child Joseph Whitehead candidates ::) Only Joseph Baldwin Whitehead appears to have been registered in Otley - March quarter 1859, although saying that there is a Joseph Whitehead registered in June quarter 1859 in Rochdale - aaarghhhhhhhhh :-X
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Thanks Ruskie.
AND if we go back to a previous thread by gliesian66 - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709748.0 in which he has added a partial tree. I'm not sure where this tree comes from, but it doesn't sit quite right - to me :-\
In this tree we have Christopher Whitehead married to Mary Whitehead with children -
John Whitehead born 1856 in Pool, Joseph BALDWIN Whitehead born 1859 in Burley and William Whitehead born 1853 in Burley.
1861 Census in Leeds:
Christopher, a Gardener aged 42 born Burley
Mary aged 34
Margaret aged 11
William aged 8
John aged 5 born POOL
Joseph aged 2 - all children, except John, born in Burley
1861 Census in Otley
Christopher, a Corn Dealer aged 33 born Rawdon (Leeds)
Christiana aged 29 born Rochdale
Susannah aged 3
Joseph B aged 2 - children born Otley
Marriage 14 November 1855 - St Chad, Rochdale
Christopher Whitehead of Weston, Yorkshire aged 27 - father: Joseph, a Farmer
Christiana BALDWIN of Rochdale aged 23
So, we have two Christopher Whitehead candidates, plus two child Joseph Whitehead candidates ::) Only Joseph Baldwin Whitehead appears to have been registered in Otley - March quarter 1859, although saying that there is a Joseph Whitehead registered in June quarter 1859 in Rochdale - aaarghhhhhhhhh :-X
I think the Baldwin is wrong.
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OK
1851 Census
Burley - Christopher Whitehead 31 and brother-in-law Samuel
Weston - Christopher Whitehead 23, born Rawdon with parents Joseph 54, Martha 51 and siblings Ann 21 and Emma 13.
1841 Census:
Menston - Thomas Whitehead 23, Christopher 20, William 12, Sarah 8, Martha 10 and Margaret 7.
Carlton (Guiseley)
Joseph Whitehead 40, a farmer with Martha 40, Christopher 10, Ann 10 and Emma 3.
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Here is the Whitehead family tree in a fan chart...
-- Robert
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AND if we go back to a previous thread by gliesian66 - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709748.0 in which he has added a partial tree. I'm not sure where this tree comes from, but it doesn't sit quite right - to me :-\
In this tree we have Christopher Whitehead married to Mary Whitehead with children -
John Whitehead born 1856 in Pool, Joseph BALDWIN Whitehead born 1859 in Burley and William Whitehead born 1853 in Burley.
So looking at the fan chart this is presumably the same John Whitehead who married Jane Bailey?
His parents in the fan chart are Christopher Whitehead b 13 Jun 1818 and MRS WHIEHEAD b 10 Mar 1827.
To me alarm bells are ringing as Christopher Whitehead's wife is named as MRS Whitehead This seems a little odd since an exact date of birth and death is given for her yet her name is not known. :-\ Is she Mary? Is Whitehead her maiden name? (so a Whitehead marrying a Whitehead?)
May I ask if you put these trees together yourself or were you given them by a third party?
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I really donīt understand your problem here Ruskie. This is the second time you have suggested that gliesian66 is borrowing from other trees. Whilst he is new to English research he is learning quickly about our resources and doing his own research. Christopher Whitehead married Mary Whitehead in Otley, Yorkshire in 1847.
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AND if we go back to a previous thread by gliesian66 - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709748.0 in which he has added a partial tree. I'm not sure where this tree comes from, but it doesn't sit quite right - to me :-\
In this tree we have Christopher Whitehead married to Mary Whitehead with children -
John Whitehead born 1856 in Pool, Joseph BALDWIN Whitehead born 1859 in Burley and William Whitehead born 1853 in Burley.
So looking at the fan chart this is presumably the same John Whitehead who married Jane Bailey?
His parents in the fan chart are Christopher Whitehead b 13 Jun 1818 and MRS WHIEHEAD b 10 Mar 1827.
To me alarm bells are ringing as Christopher Whitehead's wife is named as MRS Whitehead This seems a little odd since an exact date of birth and death is given for her yet her name is not known. :-\ Is she Mary? Is Whitehead her maiden name? (so a Whitehead marrying a Whitehead?)
May I ask if you put these trees together yourself or were you given them by a third party?
My research. the Baldwin is borrowed though and is probably wrong. Whitehead did marry whitehead and i just sent out for there marriage certificate to get their parents names.
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I really donīt understand your problem here Ruskie. This is the second time you have suggested that gliesian66 is borrowing from other trees. Whilst he is new to English research he is learning quickly about our resources and doing his own research. Christopher Whitehead married Mary Whitehead in Otley, Yorkshire in 1847.
No problem - just curious. The OP has not answered my previous question regarding the origin of his tree, and has now put forward his tree in a different format which is why I asked again.
The OP seems to be asking the most basic questions which is why I was questioning how he has managed to get back so far in his research. I realise he is learning.
I think you have misunderstood my question and the reasons behind it. I did not say that the OP is borrowing from other trees. And I am not implying that there is anything wrong with basing your research on other's research. I was asking if he had 'inherited' the tree from a relative. We all know that sometimes others (even family members) can get it wrong and I was advising the OP to check for himself. If he is doing this, then that is a good thing.
So I hope that clarifies why I was asking the OP where the information came from. If he had replied to me himself then I would not have asked a second time when he put up this fan chart.
Christopher Whitehead married Mary Whitehead in Otley, Yorkshire in 1847.
I just wanted to clarify that point.
Thank you for answering on behalf of the OP.
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Thank you for the reply Robert and for the clarification. It will be interesting to investigate whether or not there is a family connection between Christopher and Mary. Something to perhaps chase up further down the track I expect. :)
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The second brain cell has just kicked in - YorkshireBMD confirm a marriage in 1847 between Mary Whitehead and Christopher Whitehead at Otley District Registered Building. ;)
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Yes thatīs right and as previously mentioned he is currently waiting for the certificate which is ordered. This will help to go further with the research as to whether Christopher and Mary might be cousins.
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Ruskie, thanks for the advice and insight...
Basically, I'm trying.
I have made mistakes in the past... I actually took weeks to buid my tree out to dozens of generations by piggy-backing off of ancestry nodes of other people... then I found a sour link and it took me months to go in and remove everyone. Now I'm just about 5 to 6 generations back, almost across the board... and I may have one or two mistakes, as in the case of Joseph Baldwin... but outside of those, I think my tree is actually really solid.
I am very serious about extending this Whitehead line(s) in the tree, and I realize that going at it alone isn't enough, so I appreciate all the help I can get.
I'm also doing something rather unique as I'm trying to get as many people DNA tested in my Whitehead line with varying degrees of relationships to me: http://robertjliguori.blogspot.com/2015/01/whitehead-generations-analysis.html
Because of the first-cousin marriage and other possible cousin marriages in the tree, I'm not sure how it's affecting the DNA... but it will be an interesting case study nonetheless.
Any help or guidance you can give is HIGHLY appreciated.
-- Robert
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Hi Robert, the 1841 census reference search is slightly different in layout, for instance in your first enquiry enter in boxes provided, Piece 1314 Book 8 Folio 4 Page 3
Keyboard86
PS you will see William & Mary are shown as WHITEBREAD ( an amendment has been posted)
Okay, I see that record on Ancestry.com too: http://bit.ly/1C3Vhyv
Do you think Thomas on the next page is his son?
Thanks,
Robert
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Hi Robert,
On the next page (page 4) is a 20 year old James Whitehead agricultural labourer who appears to be working for a farmer called William Stead.
Over the page on page 5 is:
Thomas Whitehead age 25 Farmer
Christopher Whitehead 20 ag lab
William 12 " "
Sarah 8 " "
Margaret 7 " "
Elizabeth Whitehead 25 FS (Female Servant)
Relationships are not shown in the 1841 census.
It looks to be that the younger children in this family may belong to parents who are absent on census night, or perhaps dead, and 25 year old Elizabeth is with the family to care for the children and the house while the older boys run the farm. This may not be the case but without delving further this is just an interpretation/guess of the family arrangement in that household. :)
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Baptisms at All Saints, Otley
Thomas, born 10 October, baptised 6 November 1814. William and Mary from Otley, Corn Dealer.
Christopher, born 13 June, baptised 9 August 1818. William and Mary from Burley, Farmer
Mary, born 16 August, baptised 13 September 1822. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
William, born 29 October, baptised 24 December 1826. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Sarah, born 19 July, baptised 2 October 1831. William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Margaret, born 20 May, baptised 21 June 1833. Wlliam and Mary from Menston, Farmer
With the exception of Mary, these baptisms tie in with the 1841 census entry posted by Ruskie.
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Two possibles for Elizabeth - baptised at All Saints, Otley
Daughter of Richard and Grace Whitehead of Menston (Wool Comber) born 6 August, baptised 1 September 1816.
Daughter of Zachariah and Ann Whitehead of Menston (Wool Comber) born 23 March, baptised 11 April 1817.
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The marriage license came in today. The fathers of Christopher Whithead and Mary (nee Whitehead) Whitehead are William Whitehead and John Whitehead. The marriage was 20 Sep 1847. Can anyone plz help me determine William and Johns relation? perhaps brothers or 1st Cousins?
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I'm assuming that you have access to Ancestry - the parish registers for Otley are included. It might be an idea to compile a list of the Whitehead entries, and try to work out the family groups. That is what I have done for my families, and to a great extent it has helped to piece together their histories.
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Possible baptisms (from familysearch.org) for the fathers of Christopher and Mary:
William Whitehead
20 Jul 1783, father John
15 May 1780, father Richard
John Whitehead
19 May 1797, father John
25 May 1781, father John
5 Mar 1786, mother Hannah (no father on the index)
BumbleB's suggestion of trying to fit together families from the records on ancestry makes a lot of sense. You should also check to see if there is any abode information on the images which we are not able to pick up from the indexes. They may help to figure out which of the above folks belong to you.
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Possible baptisms (from familysearch.org) for the fathers of Christopher and Mary:
William Whitehead
20 Jul 1783, father John
15 May 1780, father Richard
John Whitehead
19 May 1797, father John
25 May 1781, father John
5 Mar 1786, mother Hannah (no father on the index)
BumbleB's suggestion of trying to fit together families from the records on ancestry makes a lot of sense. You should also check to see if there is any abode information on the images which we are not able to pick up from the indexes. They may help to figure out which of the above folks belong to you.
Do you think William and John had the same father, "John".
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Working on the assumption that John Whitehead married Sarah Manners: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2KL-D4K,
then I think this may be a likely baptism for Sarah at Leathley (about 4 miles from Otley) in 1799:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N56K-HPR
Parents John Manners and Mary which would fit nicely with naming her daughter Mary.
You should, however, check that there are not other more likely candidates.
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It could be possible that William and John had the same father John, but you need to go deeper into the various family constellations and also look at potential death records to see if the two you are considerering lived to adulthood and have not married or moved elsewhere.
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Possible parents for Sarah Manners:
John Manner married Mary Stephenson at Leathley in 1796:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2M2-9XX
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Possible parents for Sarah Manners:
John Manner married Mary Stephenson at Leathley in 1796:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2M2-9XX
Would these be non-conformist / Methodist records. I understand such records as is what is related to their religions may not all be cataloged. I'm concerned that in not drawing records from the full set of data. Thoughts?
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Can't check the Ancestry images for 1781 and 1783 at Otley - only marriages on-line :'( :'( :'(
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The Manners records I gave you were C of E, not non-conformist. Familysearch has some Methodist churches but not all. You may also want to look at the RG4 non-conformist registers on ancestry or thegenealogist.co.uk to see if you find any other candidates.
If you take a look at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/ you can pick Otley, then Leathley to get a list of which churches of all denominations can be relevant to your search.
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The Manners records I gave you were C of E, not non-conformist. Familysearch has some Methodist churches but not all. You may also want to look at the RG4 non-conformist registers on ancestry or thegenealogist.co.uk to see if you find any other candidates.
If you take a look at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/ you can pick Otley, then Leathley to get a list of which churches of all denominations can be relevant to your search.
What is C of E? Does this mean I'm working in the wrong space. Thank you for your help. Robert
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C of E is Church of England (Anglican). No you are not working in the wrong space. You need to consider all of the options. Your Whiteheads have used C of E, Methodist and Presbyterian churches. There was a period until civil registration began in 1837 where the only legal marriages were C of E. Quite common to have a couple married in C of E church and baptise their children in a non-conformist church. Which non-conformist denomination would very often be dependent on which was easiest to get to from where they were living at the time. Burials could also be in either or in a civil cemetery. Some non-conformist churches did not have their own graveyards.
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Hi
Just reading the thread on this topic - have you made any progress in the last two years?
You might like to take a look at this family on the "Wharfedale & Craven" genealogical website (wharfegen.org.uk) - you will need to register for an account, but there is no cost for this.
The family tree for William & Mary Whitehead shown provides a "plausible" (and fully referenced) account of the family and its ancestry.
Hope this helps
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Hi Robert
Whiteheads can be wrongly indexed a surprising variety of ways
Whitcheads is a common one if you can use a wildcard search such as Wh*d
Did you get any of the male Whiteheads to do a YDNA test, or just the autosomal one?
FTDNA has a Whitehead group
My ones seem not to have had children baptized (9 and 13 year gaps on some baptisms) or if baptized not registered
Good luck with your lot.
Colin