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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: LJBeastie on Friday 23 January 15 13:33 GMT (UK)
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Hello everyone,
Some extremely kind person has put together a family tree for my maternal ancestors and one branch came as quite a surprise:
http://www.genealogydepot.com/14493b.html (http://www.genealogydepot.com/14493b.html)
I wasn't expecting to come across a name like Devereux as my family has such a working class background.
Does anyone have any further information on the Devereuxs of Suffolk, particularly how a French name ended up in East Anglia? :)
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=393748.0
There is a definite Devereux link in the area around Rattlesden, Drinkstone, Hesset, Rougham.
I have a Devereux Hustler on my tree. Buried at Norton. I have put in a link above which may or not be helpful.
Also http://www.ancestry.co.uk/name-origin?surname=devereux
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The name is more common than you think! ;D
1881 census reports 827 people with the surname Devereux, and another 168 with the surname Devereaux.
I would guess that they cam over with the Normans?
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http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/DEVEREUX.htm
This gives history from Norman times.
Also they were Earls of Essex. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Devereux_family gives links to 41 pages of Devereux family members.
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There was a Devereux family in Icklingham, Suffolk, in 1861-91 and perhaps longer. The head of houshold was a brickmaker, William Devereux, and the house they lived in for quite some time was known as "Brick Kiln" in the censuses. My own ancestors lived in the same house in 1851.
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Devereux baptisms, Rattlesden:
08/28/1604 Devereux Ann Peter (clerk) & Julian
02/03/1663 Devereux Anne (bb) Anne
03/12/1624 Devereux Elizabeth Peter
06/15/1603 Devereux Fraunces (d) Peter & Julian
03/01/1614 Devereux John Peter (MA) & Julian
01/13/1608 Devereux Judeth Peter (Minister) & Julian
05/19/1606 Devereux Julian Peter (Minister) & Julian
04/21/1618 Devereux Mary Peter
04/10/1610 Devereux Peter Peter & Julian
04/01/1649 Devereux Peter John
02/04/1612 Devereux Robert Peter (MA) & Julian
09/04/1616 Devereux William Peter & Julian
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Devereux marriage, Rattlesden:
11/25/1602 Devereux Peter (BA) ffraunces Julian
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Devereux burials, Rattlesden:
11/08/1674 Devereux Anne
06/29/1629 Devereux Elizabeth
07/03/1638 Devereux Francis an infant
01/05/1644 Devereux Mary
02/05/1694 Devereux Mis a ancient woman
04/01/1649 Devereux Peter s of John - bp same day
09/14/1658 Devereux William
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Hello everyone!
Thank you very much for all this info, it's been really helpful :)
I've hit a brick wall with a Richard Devereux who I can't trace beyond his marriage in 1729 to Elizabeth Jordan. He was married at Tostock which is pretty close to Rattlesden so I assume he's an offshoot of the Devereuxs you've mentioned above.
He had a son, also named Richard, who was born in Great Barton in 1730. But I can't find any more details on Richard Snr.
Does anyone have any info/suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi, I'm new to this forum, so picking up an old thread! I have a John Devereux, born Suffolk 1748, married Elizabeth Ranson Aug 1762 in Chevington. Their daughter Elizabeth was born in Nowton, Bury St Edmunds 1767 and marr. Henry Allerton/ Ollerton. They lived in Little Saxham, where the family (with several name variants) remains to this day. The Devereux name seemed important to the family and was passed down the male line for 4 generations. However, I have been unable to trace John or his parents. Can anyone help? The Allertons were poor farming folk, so perhaps the Devereux name had greater associations? (Henry Allerton in fact had an interesting history, as his Gt Gt grandfather was Bartholomew Alleton, who sailed on the Mayflower, with his father, Isaac, one of the "Pilgrims").
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Welcome to the forum Glassmog. I'm sure you'll find it interesting and get some kind of answer to your question. My 6x Gt grandfather had Devereux as a forename, but I have not yet found the ancestor with Devereux as the surname. It was common for parents to name a child with the maiden surname of a mother or grandmother in order to preserve the name. My grandfather's brother was called Hilder as was another male cousin, after their grandmother's maiden name.
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I have a Henry Allerton, born in 1757. His parents were Edmond Allerton and Elizabeth Charles, born 1710 in Suffolk.
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Thanks Hollyberrytime. Yes, same family. I'm in fact researching my wife's family, which is Allington, as various name variants seem to have crept in during the "Little Saxham years" of the 18th century. My wife is a direct descendent of Henry, but I think Henry born 1759, and by my records the next child of Edmond and Elisabeth, so I assume Henry (1757) died in infancy. Edmond was a prosperous wheelwright, whose will survives. Henry (1759) was his 12th child, 8th son, and although was born after Edmond's death, is mentioned in his will. Henry and his family seem to have worked out their lives as illiterate farm labourers, and it is therefore tempting to speculate that, despite his father's efforts, the newly born Henry lost out on his inheritance!
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Oh, that is interesting, Glassmog. I have the same info but I have Henry as being born in 1757. My family is from Henry's sister, Susannah. Any info you have about Edmond or his parents would be great, I have got stuck.
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What is the best way to share information? I'm a little new to this web-based stuff... As I said in an earlier post, I have details back to Edmond's Gt Gt grandfather, Isaac Allerton, who was one of the leaders of the Mayflower expedition and subsequently had a long career in Massachusetts. Isaac is well documented on web sources. His son Bartholomew returned to England, and hence the family here continued. He had two sons, Isaac and John, and it does not seem to be possible to prove which of them was father of Bartholomew's grandson, also Bartholomew, who was Edmond's father. I have the text of Edmond's will, if you hadn't seen it. It is my supposition that Henry "lost out" on his father's inheritance, moving away from the area of his birth (Worlingham), and apparently being poorly educated. I am intrigued that their is no knowledge of the "Mayflower" link on this side of the family - something one might expect to be passed down - and I know from contact with descendents of Susannah and Henry's other siblings that it was passed on in their families. Henry's family is well documented from the parish records of Little Saxham, where he settled, which are published and available online. Let me know if you would like specific details on any of the above. Oh, and in case you didn't already realise, you are a distant cousin of two US presidents, Zachary Taylor (12th) and Roosevelt (32nd), also direct descendents of Isaac!
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Now you have both made 3 posts, you can utilise the PM (Personal Message) system?
Click on the document icon, on the left, under neath the users name.
Then either send info to each other, or send your email address ;D
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The Domesday Book in 1086 recorded the granting of land in East Anglia incl. Norfolk, Suffolk etc. to several Devereux families recorded as "de Evreux" (of / from Evreux in Normandy, France).
Their descendants include the family granted land in Hereford and elsewhere; and in 1550 were the first creation of a Viscount - Viscount Hereford. I in 1572 their dscendant was ctreated Earl of Essex; which later passed to the was ; see <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devereux>
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Devereux Garnham was born in 1780 to a Robert Garnham and Martha Devereux (in Great Barton, Suffolk). Martha was born around 1750 to Richard and Elizabeth Devereux. Robert and Martha had seven children that I know of via Family Search. They were Robert, Deverence, Richard, Devereux, Hereford, Martha and Elizabeth, all born between 1774 and 1790. (I think Deverence might be a spelling mistake and he may have been named Devereux. He must have died as a babe as they named another son Devereux a few years later). This Devereux was later known as Devereux GURNHAM and died in 1863 in Kingston, Surrey, England. He named a son Devereux, who also named his son Devereux, and so it goes on! It is interesting that one of the sons was named HEREFORD? Devereux Garnham or Gurnham's daughter Mary Ann married Sidney Lee in 1845 and died on arrival in Port Adelaide, South Australia, in 1851. Her daughter Amelia Mary Lee married my great great grandfather David Matthews in 1879 in Ballarat.
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I am a Devereux from Liverpool (UK). I can trace my line for certain to Philip Devereux 1790 - mid 1850s. His wife was a Catherine Murphy and I think they came from Tagmahon Wexford.
There is a possible match with a William Devereux c1760.
Can anyone link with any of this?
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Welcome to Rootschat Sonja.
There is a very tenuous link between that area of Suffolk, and Hereford, but I haven't yet worked it out properly. The link, I think, is something to do with the Chandos Estates, as land was held by the Lords Brydges of Chandos Estates in both Suffolk and Hereford. My maternal family were the Pearl(e) family and in the 16th and 17th centuries my Pearle ancestors were Parish Officers of Rattlesden in Suffolk. Now, the only other place in England where there is any great evidence of the Pearle family is in Hereford, so I am assuming a link somewhere but have not established it yet. Also, my mother's maiden name was Garnham, she came from Brettenham, but I have traced the family back to Gosbeck in 1541. As far as I can see, I don't have any Devereaux in my family, but another coincidence here, because I now live in Wales, and there are several Devereaux in the village here!
Kind regards
GS
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My great grandparents ×2 were Delilah Emily (Willison) Devereux and William Devereux ,which born on Oct 30,1866 in Suffolk, England. Still looking for his other descendants.
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William and Delilah Devereux were my paternal Grandfather's Brother and Sister-in-Law. My Grandfather was Maurice, William's younger brother.