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Title: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: foxglove54 on Tuesday 27 January 15 12:16 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for information on my gt grandfather Michael John Donohoe, from County Cork and for any other members of his family.  I don't know when he was born (? circa 1875-80).  He emigrated to Australia when he was in his late teens and married an Alice Ada Smith - again, I don't know when.  He apparently started the first mail train between Kalgoorlie and Coolgardie, Western Australia.

I have a Marriage Certificate for his daughter, Alice Ethel on 16/1/1922 in Perth, Australia to Frederick David Baldwin.  Alice Ethel Donohoe was aged 19.  Michael John Donohoe's profession is given as "Motor Proprietor".

Can anyone help?  Thanks, if you can.

Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ricoba on Tuesday 27 January 15 12:59 GMT (UK)
HI ,THERE IS A BURIAL FOR A MICHAEL JOHN DONOHOE IN PERTH WA
THE AGES FIT HE DIED AGED  60 IN 1933
HOPE THIS HELPS
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ricoba on Tuesday 27 January 15 13:08 GMT (UK)
THERE IS ALSO A BURIAL FOR ALICE ADA DONOHOE AGED  83
DIED 1955
THE DEATH CERT WOULD GIVE A LOT OF INFO
REGARDS RICOBA
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: foxglove54 on Tuesday 27 January 15 13:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Ricoba and thanks so much for that information.  I'll now investigate getting hold of the death certs as you suggest.
As a total newcomer, can I ask how you had this information?  Are the Donohoes, who married with the Baldwins, anything to do with your family?
Regards Foxglove 54.
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 27 January 15 13:58 GMT (UK)
He was born late enough to have a birth certificate but to find it you will need more detail than Co.Cork.
Cork has 18 Registration Districts.
First you need to find all you can in the Austrialia records. Those death Certs would be a great start.
Ideally you need his father's name, mother's would be great as well and where in Cork he came from.
I don't know about Certs in Austrialia but his marriage cert should have his father's name at least.

FamilySearch is a good place to start.
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927080
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: oldkingkole on Tuesday 27 January 15 22:03 GMT (UK)
This is not quite Cork research but could help......
1842-1937  SA marriages are indexed online:  Genealogy SA
http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
Transcripts are $22 to non-members
There is a marriage of a Michael John Donohue to a Alice Ada Smith but 1933 :'(

Correction....1931

Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 27 January 15 22:26 GMT (UK)
A  scenario to consider a friend of mine who had a son of 12 married his girlfriend on his deathbed so that she would have widow's right's to his house etc, noteing you have been given a death date of 1933 and a possible marriage date of 1933
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: oldkingkole on Tuesday 27 January 15 23:28 GMT (UK)
Sorry previous mentioned Marriage was in 1931.
I agree with previous post that you should search Australian angle first.
Try TROVE, free Australian newspapers. Sorry couldn't get link going but there is a death notice in 8 April 1933  for Michael John Donohoe (died the 7th) which mentions the correct wife's name, daughter(Alice), son in law
(F.Baldwin) plus a few other relatives. Drats no mention of where he was born.
You shouldn't have to much trouble finding this but if you send a PM , personal message, I'll send it on.
 Padraig
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 28 January 15 00:41 GMT (UK)
Hopefully this link works to that death notice.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01emw/
It's says he is the stepson of Mrs E Donohoe which indicates his father if not his mother also went to Australia. Also an age of 60. So born circa 1873. You can't always trust ages on death notices.
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ricoba on Wednesday 28 January 15 00:48 GMT (UK)
the Australian death cert will tell you how many children he had, how long he lived there etc
where born. but as we all know info can differ depending who is giving it.
They are not cheap but can help with children ,names and ages
good luck
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ricoba on Wednesday 28 January 15 01:43 GMT (UK)
Sorry forgot to say where I got burial info.
if you go to mcb WA it will give you all burials in metro area
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 28 January 15 01:48 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for information on my gt grandfather Michael John Donohoe, from County Cork and for any other members of his family.  I don't know when he was born (? circa 1875-80).  He emigrated to Australia when he was in his late teens and married an Alice Ada Smith - again, I don't know when. 

They were married in SOUTH AUSTRALIA:

Michael John DONOHOE age 58yrs, single m. Alice Ada SMITH age 57yrs, single, 07/01/1931 at the Registry Office Adelaide; District: Ade; Book/Page: 326/27
Groom's Father: Michael DONOHOE
Bride's Father: Sidney SMITH
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 28 January 15 02:08 GMT (UK)
Burials records for Michael John & Alice Ada DONOHOE:

Michael John:
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00047551

Alice Ada:
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00010122
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 28 January 15 02:33 GMT (UK)
Deaths:

Michael J DONOHOE d. 1933 PERTH #561

Alice Ada DONOHOE 83yrs d. 1955 FREMANTLE #391
Parents: Sydney & Emma E

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 28 January 15 02:42 GMT (UK)
I have a Marriage Certificate for his daughter, Alice Ethel on 16/1/1922 in Perth, Australia to Frederick David Baldwin.  Alice Ethel Donohoe was aged 19.

Alice Ethel DONOHOE's birth registration in WA shows the maiden name of her mother as HENDERSON not SMITH. Do you know if Alice Ada was previously married? Perhaps the reason for the very late marriage that took place in South Australia & she fibbed about her single status  :-\

Birth:

Alice Ethel DONOHOE b. 1902 BROAD ARROW #166
Parents: Michael John DONOHOE & Alice HENDERSON 

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 28 January 15 02:47 GMT (UK)
Death notices for Michael John DONOHOE - children & family names are mentioned:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article33000762
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32461809

Memoriam notices:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46752092
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article34735955
Title: Re: Michael John Donohoe
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 28 January 15 02:48 GMT (UK)
Various newspaper items for Michael John DONOHOE:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article92211563
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article33530284
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article89679047
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article90984198
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article33280742
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article93723835